WINDER, Thomas [350] 2 3
- Born: Cir 1680
- Marriage (1): BULL, Sarah [351] on 5 Jun 1704 in St. Margaret's, Westminster, London, England 1
- Marriage (2): GREGORY, Rebecca [477] on 1 Apr 1731 in Hunterdon Co, NJ
- Died: 12 Apr 1731, Amwell Twp, Hunterdon Co, NJ at age 51 4
Cause of his death was Drowned boarding ship for England.
General Notes:
From The Bonner-Smith Circle by Ruth E. Bonner: Settled in Amwell Twp., Hunterdon Co., N.J.; was a proprietor of West Jersey; lived where Hopewell now is; in 1730 bought 600-A between Newtown and Yardley; crossed the Atlantic several times because of large interests in England; starting on a final trip he drowned from a small boat in the Delaware. In settling his estate, "paid for taking deceased body out of the water, he having been drowned, 2 (pounds), the Coroner"; 1746 "Acct. of Rebecca Collins, late Winder."
From Davis, History of Bucks County, Vol iii, p 639: "Thomas Winder came from England, settled in Hunterdon County New Jersey in 1705. He was in New Jersey in 1703 and was one of the purchasers of Maidenhead and Hopewell in Jersey, soon after the consumation of the purchase he returned to London, and was married at St. Margarets Westminster 6th mo ... to Sarah Bull (see following note) and returned to Hunterdon County Jersey where he became a large land owner. In 1721 he purchased a six hundred acre tract of land at or near Newtown, Bucks County [PA] of James Walley. "The 341 acres he purchased in Makefield Twp., in 1727 decended to his son John Winder. "Thomas and Sarah Winder had four children -- John, born 1707, Thomas who settled at Annwell N. Jersy; James who removed to Maryland; and Jane Winder who married John Slack of Lower Makefield, Bucks Co., where many of their descendants are still living..."
In the Pennsylvania Historical Library is a copy of Winders of America with an amendment pasted in the back. The amendment states that the "proof" of marriage between Thomas Winder and Sarah Bull had been forged in order to claim a reward offered by the author, R. Winder Johnson. In the same book was pasted a newspaper article from the Philadelphia Enquirer, 27 Dec 1910: BANKER CRUSHED BY BIG ANIMAL AMBULANCE R. Winder Johnson Run Down in Chestnut Street by Animal Vehicle.
According to researcher Robert L. Winder (manuscript enclosed as part of personal communication, November 1997): In April 1986 a personal examination of the St. Margaret's (Westminster) Parish Register found the entry recording the marriage of Thomas WINHER and Sara Bull on 5 Jun 1704. There has been some controversy in the past over this record, with claims made that the "original" entry showed the groom as Thomas WRENHAM, with a later emendation correcting the name to Thomas Winder. The record examined in the Muniments Room of Westminster Abbey by the compiler in 1986 showed no erasures, write-overs, or emendations whatsoever. Quite likely the copy at the Abbey is the Bishop's transcript, and not the original register... At this point, however, it must be stated that the compiler has found in all of England, as yet, no other record that can be identified to this Thomas Winder who married Sara Bull at St. Margaret's Westminster on 5 June 1704...A search of the baptismal records for St. Margaret's, Westminster Parish Register for the years 1704 through 1710 found no baptisms of children of Thomas Winder or Winher or Ninher and wife Sara... Thomas seems to have acieved some prosperity, as indicated by the inventory of his estate filed in 1734 (New Jersey Archives Vol. XXX, page 538). This inventory included "a canoe, new rifle barreled gun, old ditto, large fowling piece, new small gun set off with brass, old gun and pistol, old sword, two great Bibles and three small ones, negro Ben, valued at six pounds, negro Toby valued at 30 pounds, wheat sold to Benjamin Pidcock", as well as 552 acres of land in Lower Makefield Township in Bucks County, PA.
THE LAMBERTVILLE BEACON [NJ], May 11, 1933 He (Winder) owned much land in Bucks Co., Penna, as well as a tract in old Amwell q few miles east of Lambertville, ,N.J. consisting of 320 acres which was conveyed to him on the 7th and 8th days of ___, 1710, by John Williamson. The title to this land as well as much other land of these West Jersey tracts was disputed by Colonel Cox, and many of these owners signed an agreement to cooperate in trying the title to their land. Thomas Winder, with many others, signed this April 23, 1731 (page 11, Hales History, Pennington Church). He was a Commissioner of Highway, Old Amwell, N.J. 1723. (Somerset and Hunterdon History page 343 and 346). Also see (Winders of America, Lippincot Co., Phila, 1902). Thomas Winder died intestate. This land went to John Winder, who conveyed it to Peter Phillips, Nov. 26, 1747, and Peter conveyed a part of it to John and Sarah (Rose) Phillips and they to Jacob Holcombe, 112 acres, June 25, 1794. (Old parchments in possession of J. Howard Phillips).
To: goandrsn@hsnp.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Winder genealogy Hello! I found your entry on Ancestry.com indicating that the parents of Thomas Winder (1681-1734) who married Sarah Bull were John Winder and Bridget Bourow. Could you please tell me what documentation you have for this? Hopefully, Ann Winder [Received no answer to this query, alas!]
Calendar of New Jersey Wills, Vol. II 1730-1750. Part II Page: 538 Name: Thomas Winder Date: 23 May 1734 Location: Hopewell, Hunterdon Co. Calendar of New Jersey Wills, Vol. II 1730-1750. Part II yeoman. Int. Adm'x, Rebecca Winder, widow. Joseph Peace, of Trenton, yeoman, surety.
1734, June 4. Inventory includes bonds of Samuel Baker, --- Parker, Thomas Newman, Frances Hague, Randle Idons, Immanuel Correl, Thomas Hoff, Abel Janney, Jr.; a canoe, new rifle barreled gun, old ditto, large fowling piece, new small gun sett off with brass, old gun and pistol, old sword, two great Bibles and three small ones, negro Ben (£6), Toby (£30), wheat sold Benjamin Pidcock. Debtors--Joseph Peace, John McGloughlin, Peter Likin, Jonathan Cooper, Thomas Hough, Henry Slackt, Joseph Price, Joseph Higbey. Due from John Windor for wheat pr Peter Windor. 23 sheep in Pennsylvania. Made by Joseph Kirkbride, Andrew Smith, John Burroughs.
1746, March 10. Account of Rebecca Collins, late Rebecca Winder, administratrix. Mentions John Parker, William Yard, Richard Arnels (or Amels), Samuel Parker, Thomas Robinson, Richard Skirm, Eliakim Anderson, Thomas Palmer, "Flour" Greenland, James Neilson, Bennet Bard, Samuel Biles, Rut Johnson, Thomas Hamlin, Jeremiah Foster, John Andrewson, Sarah Dagworthy (for Theo. Severns), John Wills, Benjamin Canby, Mary Davis, Manuele Coryele, Ezekiel Clements, Timothy Smith, John and Thomas Winder (sons of deceased), James, Jane and Elizabeth Winder (other children of deceased), William Snowden, Timothy Smith, Joseph Kirkbride, John Burrows, Andrew Smith, Sarah Davis. Paid for taking deceased body out of the water, he having been drowned, £2; the Coroner; copy of a writing said to be a will made by deceased, but proved not to be such. Eleanor Winder, youngest child of deceased.
Extracted from DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE COLONIAL HISTORY OF THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY, VOLUME XXX, CALENDAR OF NEW JERSEY WILLS, VOLUME II, 1730-1750; Paterson NJ, 1918 ( Libers 1, 2, etc. are of West Jersey Wills. Those as Libers A, B, etc., are of East Jersey Wills) 1734, May 23. Winder, Thomas, of Hopewell, Hunterdon Co., yeoman. Int. Adm'x, Rebecca Winder, widow. Joseph Peace, of Trenton, yeoman, surety. 1734, June 4. Inventory includes bonds of Samuel Baker, ------------ Parker, Thomas Newman, Frances Hague, Randle Idons, Immanuel Correl, Thoms Hoff, Abel Janney, Jr.; a canoe, new rifle barreled gun, old ditto, large fowling piece, new small sett off with brass, old gun and pistol, old sword, two great Bibles and three small ones, negro Ben [page 539] (£6), Toby (£30), wheat sold Benjamin Pidcock. Debtors - Joseph Peace, John McGloughlin, Peter Likin, Jonathan Cooper, Thomas Hough, Henry Slackt, Joseph Price, Joseph Higbey. Due from John Windor for wheat pr Peter Windor. 23 sheep in Pennsylvania. Made by Joseph Kirkbride, Andrew Smith, John Burroughs. 1746, March 10. Account of Rebecca Collins, late Rebecca Winder, administratrix. Mentions John Parker, William Yard, Richard Arnels (or Amels), Samuel Parker, Thomas Robinson, Richard Skirm, Eliakim Bard, Samuel Biles, Rut Johnson, Thomas Hamlin, Jeremiah Foster, John Andrewson, Sarah Dagworthy (for Theo. Severns), John Wills, Benjamin Canby, Mary Davis, Manuele Coryele, Ezekiel Clements, Timothy Smith, Joseph Kirkbride, John Burrows, Andrew Smith, Sarah Davis. Paid for taking deceased body out of the water, he having been drowned, £2; the Coroner; copy of a writing said to be a will made by deceased, but proved not to be such. Eleanor Winder, youngest child of deceased. Hunterdon Wills, 107 J.
Research Notes:
According to Winders of America: In the [estate] inventory filed at Trenton, dated May 21, 1735, are mentioned "Two Great Bibles and three small ones by the concent of all ye Children and ye Widdow divided amonst them." Where did those Bibles go?
Also according to Winders of America, in regards the fact that his estate paid 1 pound for a funeral sermon: In the latter fact we have proof that he was not a member of the Society of Friends... The compiler does not agree this constitutes proof.
Noted events in his life were:
• Residence: London, Middlesex, England. 5 Resided In Area Of London, England
• Migrated, 1705, Hunterdon Co, NJ. 5
Thomas married Sarah BULL [351] [MRIN: 154] on 5 Jun 1704 in St. Margaret's, Westminster, London, England.1 (Sarah BULL [351] was born circa 1685 6 and died before 1 Apr 1731 in Amwell Twp, Hunterdon Co, NJ 7.)
Thomas next married Rebecca GREGORY [477] [MRIN: 189] on 1 Apr 1731 in Hunterdon Co, NJ.
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