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The Busbee Busby and Variations Database



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A Busby DNA project, dealing only with Y DNA (males) was announced on this
list in June. Today we have the first report to share with the list. If you
are a male Busby descendant, we would love to have you join us. The project is
ongoing, and will be more helpful to everyone with more participants to
evaluate. Report attached.
Wayne and Pat Busbice
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REPORT
BUSBY DNA SURNAME PROJECT
(Busby - a Scottish surname meaning "hamlet in the bushes")

by Wayne and Patricia Busbice
October 14, 2003



With the recent scientific advances in DNA technology, we have a perfect tool
to assist us in the search for ancestors.  Genetics teaches us that although
human males have both X and Y chromosomes, females carry only X chromosomes. 
It is the chromosome contribution from the father that determines the sex of
the child: XX or XY.  Thus the Y chromosome is passed from generation to
generation only through the male line, essentially unchanged.  The chromosomes
mutate very slowly over time, at a predictable rate, allowing identification
through DNA of specific individuals as belonging to the same family or line of
descent.  This rate of mutation, or change, is extremely slow, being measured in
terms of 200 to 500 generations.

This is the first report based on results from Family Tree DNA of the first
group of   participants in the twelve marker Busby DNA surname project.  We are
attempting to verify lineage based on our individual research and to clarify
the relationships among our earliest identified ancestors.  Further, we are
hoping to link up with ancestral lines that go back to Scotland or England by
breaking down the  genealogical "brick walls" that exist in the 18 century
generation of Benjamin, Jeremiah, Zachariah, John, William, Needham and others. 

This report presents a comparison of the relationship of our first seven
participants and state what we have learned to date.  However, we refer you to the
Family Tree DNA website (www.info@familytreeDNA.com) if you are interested in
finding out more.

We now have eight people enrolled in the study, and have received test
results on seven. We are still hoping that more Busby/Busbee/Buzby/Busbie/Busbay/Busbice male descendants will join our exciting project, which will continue to be open to all qualified male individuals.  
 

Each participant has given permission to publish the relatedness results. 
Regarding the haplotype and haplogroup data, we will protect the privacy of 
participants by using a random code for identification.  Therefore, no details
such as kit or code number, used in the project, are being given which could
allow someone to access their genetic information.




12 Marker Genetic Distance Analysis

Descent

From:   WAYNE BUSBICE  
            

 

John M Busby

0 Distance

Wayne’s Line of Descent

Roger Busbice

0

Benjamin Busbee c 1699 – 1815 Maryland

Howard R Busby

1

William Reese Busbee c 1775- c 1844

Michael Lee Busby

2

Allen Busbee c 1798 -1878

Dan Eugene Busby

17

Oliver Allen Busby c 1854 - 1921

Ernest Lee Busbee, Jr

19

 

 

From:  JOHN M BUSBY

John’s Line of Descent

Wayne Busbice

0

Thomas Busby

Roger Busbice

0

Thomas Busby born c 1745

Howard R. Busby

1

James Busby born c 1798

Michael Lee Busby

2

 

Dan Eugene Busby

17

 

Ernest Lee Busby

19

 

 

From:  VOHN G BUSBY

 

Vohn’s Line of Descent

Wayne Busbice

0

Seaborn W. Buzzbee 1815-1873

Roger Busbice

0

William Jasper Busby 1845-

Howard R. Busby

1

Charles  N. Busby 1872-        

Michael Lee Busby

2

Marcus G. Busby 1904-         

Dan Eugene Busby

17

      

Ernest Lee Busby

19

 

 

From:  ROGER BUSBICE

Roger’s Line of Descent

Wayne Busbice

0

Benjamin Busbee c 1699 - 1815

John M Busby

0

William Reese Busbee c 1775- c 1844

Howard R. Busby

1

Allen Busbee c 1798 -1878

Michael Lee Busby

2

Oliver Allen Busby c 1854 - 1921

Dan Eugene Busby

17

 

Ernest Lee Busby

19

 

 

From:  HOWARD R BUSBY

Howard’s Line of Descent

Wayne Busbice

1

Benjamin Busbee c 1699 - 1815

John M Busby

1

Zachariah Busby c 1768 - 1850

Roger Busbice

1

Jeremiah Busby c 1795 - 1853

Michael Lee Busby

3

Jeremiah (Jesse) Busby c 1823 - 1897

Dan Eugene Busby

16

Jeremiah (Jerry) S Busby 1856 -1900

Ernest Lee Busby

18

 

 

From:  MICHAEL LEE BUSBY

Michael’s Line of Descent

Wayne Busbice

2

John Zachariah Busby c 1795 - 1870

John M Busby

2

George Washington Busby

Roger Busbice

2

George Michael Busby

Howard R. Busby

3

William Marshall Busby, Sr.

Dan Eugene Busby

17

 

Ernest Lee Busby

19

 

 

From: DAN EUGENE BUSBY

Dan’s Line of Descent

Wayne Busbice

17

Micajah Busby 1780-1855

South Carolina

John M Busby

17

James Busby 1822 - 1865

Roger Busbice

17

Jefferson D. Busby 1863- 1948

Howard R. Busby

17

 

Ernest Lee Busby

4

 

Michael Lee Busby

17

 

 

From: ERNEST LEE BUSBY

Ernest’s Line of Descent

Wayne Busbice

19

William Jasper Busbee 1859 - 1932

John M Busby

19

Ernest Christopher Busbee 1896 - 1951

Roger Busbice

19

Ernest Lee Busbee Sr 1926 - 1991

Howard R. Busby

19

 

Dan Eugene Busby

4

 

Michael Lee Busby

17

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



                                           
What can we conclude from the above chart?

John, Roger, Vohn and Wayne had a perfect match of 12 of 12 genetic markers which
indicates there is a 50% probability their Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA)
is no longer than 14.5 generations away, a 90% probability of no longer than 48
generations away, and a 95% probability of no longer than 62.4 generations
away.  However, John, Roger and Wayne know through their own research that t
heir MRCA is Benjamin Buzbee, Sr., born 1699 and died 1815.  And the DNA test
seems to confirm this.  In Wayne's case Benjamin, Sr. is back only six
generations; seven generations for Roger, and eight for John. Wayne and Roger have
traced their lineage from Benjamin, Sr. through his son William Reese Busbee.  
John recently stated that the DNA results lead him to theorize that Thomas or
Jeremiah were also sons of Benjamin, Sr., and that one of them is his direct
connection to Benjamin, Sr. 

 

The chart above is colorized to make it easier to distinguish between family lines. Hopefully it is easier to see the different lines of descent. The lines of descent are next to each individual, to help us connect to the different paper genealogies.  For example, being in blue doesn’t mean you are descended from Benjamin, it means you are closely related to Benjamin’s line.  You would be descended from the same ancestor Benjamin was descended from.  It would be good to test more descendants from William of South Carolina’s line, who have a strong paper trail, because we feel Benjamin and William are brothers.

 

I would like to involve more Busbys from England, Australia and the Northeastern US to determine matches, which would allow us to plot out migration patterns. Gaila


Howard Ray Busby's genetic profile was 11 of 12, compared to John, Roger and
Wayne.  But his personal research revealed that his oldest known ancestor was
also Benjamin Buzbee, Sr.  From Benjamin Sr. his lineage is through Zachariah
born 1768, Jeremiah born 1795, Jeremiah (Jesse) born 1823, Jeremiah (Jerry)
born 1856,  William H. born 1878.  This line places Zachariah as possibly
Benjamin Sr.'s oldest son, and a brother to William Reese, a hypothesis that several
researchers have been trying to prove.  This makes Howard and Wayne fourth
cousins twice removed.  But what about his genetic distance of 1 from John,
Roger and Wayne?  The lab explained that the 385 marker is fast-moving and likely
to mutate.  And when combined with the Busby surname, a less than common
name, the mutation is not a problem.  This means Howard is related to John, Roger
and Wayne as closely as John, Roger and Wayne are related to each other.

Michael Lee Busby's genetic marker was 10 of 12 when compared to John, Roger
and Wayne and a 50% probability that the MRCA was no longer ago than 61
generations.  There are two ways with DNA testing to confirm or deny this.  One way
is to test additional family members to search for a line that shows a
mutation that is one point closer to his sample.  The other way is to order the
Y-DNARefine 13 marker panel.  According to the lab, refining greatly enhances the
ability to determine relatedness.  Michael Lee has ordered the 25 marker test,
as have Roger, John and Wayne, so there will be a comparison available. 
Michael Lee's 25 marker results have been received and will be compared with the
other three men when all reports are available to us. 

Ernest Lee Busbee, Jr. and Dan Eugene Busby are both separated by three or
more genetic markers when compared to other participants in the study.  The odds
greatly favor  their not having shared a common male ancestor with anyone
else in the group for more than 2000 years. Hopefully they will be able to
convince other possible cousins to join our group to verify their lineage.

Apparently everyone except Roger checked the block that stated we wanted our
comparisons limited to the Busby surname group participants.  Roger authorized
Family Tree DNA lab to compare his results with other family DNA surname
groups.  This presented us with a very interesting development.  Roger's profile
matched perfectly, 12 of 12 markers, with two people outside of our group with
the surname Ivey.  Family Tree DNA provided their email addresses in the
report to Roger and the administrators, in case we wanted to get in touch with
them.  Wayne immediately emailed Jerry Lee Ivey and he, Jerry, is very interested
in further research to clarify this relatedness.  For background, Roger and
Wayne are first cousins once removed and Roger is an historian, and is very
excited about conducting further study to verify this connection. Gaila, Roger and
Wayne will pursue this latest finding and keep the group informed.  With
some cursory research online, Pat and Wayne found many Iveys living in the same
southern states as the Busby family, and with similar migration patterns.

This is the procedure for participants to follow to allow matches of their
results with other surname group participants:  go to the website for Family
Tree DNA.  Enter your Kit Number and Privacy Code. On your personal data page,
click on Update Contact Information. Under your name and address, uncheck
Private: Restrict Match Notification to Your Surname Project.  Click Update at the
bottom of the page.
 
To further explore the family origins, Roger has ordered additional tests
including the Y-DNARefine test (25 markers). 

When you compare the 12 marker result to someone else who does not have the
same surname, but the scores match, you are most likely not recently related -
meaning, within the last 1000 years, or 40 generations.  Exceptions to this
are if an unannounced adoption or false paternity has occurred. 

The range of generations for the common ancestor extends to 76.9 generations,
or about 2000 years for those cases where there is not a surname in common. 

The surname project is ongoing, and the administrators are hoping for more
participants to come forward.  Contact Wayne Busbice at "buzgen2@aol.com"for
information.
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Late bulletin just received from Michael Lee Busby:  Family Tree DNA just
announced that Michael has an exact match in his 12 marker Y-DNA test outside the
Busby surname group by the name of Benjamin Miller.  Michael is following up
on this development to see who the common ancestor might be and he will keep
us posted.