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The Vantine/Vantyne Descendants of Carel Fonteyn and Catharine de Baile
Compiled by Carol Van Tine Yocom and many others.

Links to Other Researchers and Resources

Map of New Amsterdam
Yahoo Vantine Discussion List - this is pretty moribund and I hate to have anyone join because you get spam through Yahoo
Rootsweb Vantine-L Archive
Vantine Family Forum - genealogy.com
Vantine Family Forum - ancestry.com
The Hillman Web Site
Ron Bryant's Web Site
Ken Newton Web Site
Conover Web Site
Rand and Sharon Johnson
Half the Town & Counting by Alan Sandercott --book includes information on British Columbia Vantines

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The 1860s Roster

Abraham D. Vantine 1830-@1894, Otoe county, Nebraska - a biography
Abram N. Van Tyne - 1798-1880
Ashley Abraham Van Tine - owner of Vantine's --added link tonew A Little Journey to Vantine's. Picture of Ashley and his wife.

Harriet Macy Vantine - Testimony regarding the Groves & Baker sewing machine patent
Hezekiah O. Van Tine - a biography from Westmoreland county, Pennsylvania
Jesse B. Vantine - 1821-1893, Ottawa county, Ohio - a biography
James Vantine - 1833-1895, Oakland county, Michigan - a biography
Joseph E. Vantine - 1835-@1904; New Castle, Delaware - a biography and Medal of Honor
Mary Ricard Van Tyne - Testimony in Lincoln assasination trial
T.J. Vantine - "Pioneer Days in the Southwest" - 1860, Texas Rangers, Ft. Belknap, Texas
Uncle John's [Van Tine] Experience - New York Times, Sunday, January 12, 1879 
Capt. Charles H. Vantine - 21st Ohio, Report -August 16-September 22, 1863. —The Chickamauga Campaign.
Courtesy of Willard Smith.
Peter Vantine - 1811-1892; Genesee county, Michigan - a biography
Elizabeth Belle Butler Wetmore - Courtesy of Ken Newton
John Weir Vantine - Courtesy of MC Fairbanks

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    Samuel E. Van Tine

     
    new7/13/2009 -- I uploaded an updated set of Family Group Sheets (accessed through the link above). As usual, no sooner than I had them all up, I realized there was a mistake on one family and I had an email with additional information in my mailbox. There have been so many wonderful vital records databases uploaded with information about Vantines that I can hardly keep up. The latest one is through the State Library of Michigan with copies of death certificates from 1897 to 1920 (still being completed). Good luck in all your research. Regards, Carol Van Tine Yocom

    12/16/2008 courtesy of Peter Romanskiewicz we have a link to A Little Journey to Vantine's on the Gotheborg.com Antique Chinese and Japanese Porcelain site.

     

    This site is constantly undergoing revision. While I strive for accuracy, I find mistakes every day. Please confirm any information you use for your family tree. Corrections and additions are gratefully accepted.
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    But The Name's Spelled Wrong!

    What has this to do with the Vantine (Van Tine, Van Tyne, etc.) family, you are certainly asking. The legal language of New Amsterdam was Dutch, but most people were illiterate in any language. Henry Fiske says in his Dutch and Quaker Colonies that there were at least 26 languages being spoken in a town with only about four thousand inhabitants. I have never found proof that Charles Fonteyn could read or write either French or Dutch, the one signature existing being his mark "X" only. Throughout these records, wild variations in spelling the name Fonteyn are evident.

    First Known Signature Mark

    As Rosalie Fellows Bailey remarks in "Dutch Naming Systems": "In the seventeenth century, it was the custom of Dutch magistrates and scribes to translate foreign names into what they believed to be equivalent Dutch names and so enter them on the court records or other series of records kept in that language.... If the foreign name was difficult to translate, the seventeenth century Dutch magistrate or scribe usually entered a phonetic approximation. Such might take the form of a Dutch name similar in sound to the foreign name, but often quite different in meaning; or the foreign name might merely be spelled phonetically by translating the sound of the name in letters as the Dutch pronounced their letters."

    Through my years of research on this family, I have discovered that the change from Fonteyn to Vantine follows many different paths. In the following chart, there are a few listed:
      Fontaine  
    Fonteyn Vontine Vantine
    Ffontaine Vonteyn Vantyne
    Fantine Fontime Van Tine
    Fountin   Van Tyne
    Fontijn Phantine Tine
    Fanton   Tyne


    To further complicate matters, the name is frequently misspelled. Valentine, Vandine, Van Dyne, Van Line, or Van Fine are some of the many variations. It can be confused with the "real" Dutch names of Van Tyn and Van Tien. Given names suffered similar mistreatment as evidenced by the name Jacques Fonteyn. In the late 1780's, a perplexed tax enumerator in Adams County, Pennsylvania, scratched his head and gave it his best effort and listed Zwacks Vantine as a taxable male head of household.

    Rosalie Fellows Bailey also came to the same conclusion, "The Van Tyne or Vantine family of central New Jersey has a misleadingly Dutch connotation since the family is of French origin." As late as 1814, I have clear evidence that the family continued to use both variations of the name. The documents that I have which were signed by Cornelius Vantine to receive his War of 1812 land grant are clearly signed Cornelius Fantine in two separate places (I believe this to be John Vantine's, my third great grandfather's, brother--but no proof). The early tax and church records of Dutchess County use many variations of Fonteyn/Vantine.

    The only clear exception is William Vantine who always seems to be Vantine. Since his father William Fonteyn, who married Kniertje Wiltsie 29 Nov 1741, died shortly after William (son) was born, I feel certain that this steadfast spelling can be attributed to his mother's second husband, Koenradt Applie, a literate Swiss-German.

    Three 1820 Censuses:

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    1820 Federal Census - Amenia, Dutchess county, NY
    1820 Federal Census - Beekman, Dutchess county, NY
    1820 Federal Census - Pawling, Dutchess county, NY

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