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Tuam, Galway. Castles The Kelly owned in Galway and Roscommon, etc.

From: Joe

 
Got some of them for you Don, castles at Screen, Lecher in Roscommon, Knockcrogherty, Cloneoran, Fadane, Coolowe. I have a particular interest in the one in Fadane. This man died in 1614.
Joe
 

Henry Kelly would be a G 'uncle of mine. His brother Joseph was my grandfather. He went to the States about the 1880's , maybe with a sister Mary. He joined his brother George and worked on the railways. The story goes George put him through law school. There was some disagreement between the brothers when Henry qualified, and they went their separate ways. I have a trace on George's line but they know nothing either. Henry may have changed to the Kelley way of spelling. The father of these men - my Ggf (The Mystery man as I call him) was a protestant , but converted, as did his children. Henry might not have. There is a very high probability that this line of Kelly's came from a place near Tuam.

I had a contact some time ago from a ? Star Kelly but lost it.
Joe
On 19 Feb 2007, at 05:08, Donal O'Kelly wrote:

 
Thanks Joe......saved your message and will do. Henery is an ancestor to you? Don Kelly
From: Joe
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Colla O'Kelly

Don you should contact Dr. Joe Kelly, no relation. He is the Clan historian. He is at joekellyhome@eircom.net

Introduce your self and tell him you got his name from me. He knows me as Captain Joe.
If you can think of the Henry Kelly in Chicago let me know it could lead to some thing.
JOE
Thanks Don I will contact UMLS and try and get a trace on Henry Kelly. The Colla O' Kelly I refer to led a Regt. of Foot at the battle of Kilnsale, on the English side, (alas history can be cruel). shortly after that he was offered a deal by the English queen Elizabeth 1 (surrender and regrant) was obliged to drop the "O" and adapt to the english way of life.
if you think of any other Law schools in MI let me know.
Thanks
JOE
 
You know Don, Colla O'Kelly was supposed to have had a relationship with Queen Ann of England. A letter to that effect disappeared some time ago. He is buried in Kilconnell Abbey in South Galway.

Colla was the last of the "O" Kelly's of Ui Maine, from then on it was just Kelly.

Now another question - any idea where would one have studied law in Michigan ( poss Detroit) in the 1880/90's.

 


COUNTY DOWN:

John Kelley/Kelly was born about 1809-10 in Bangor, Co. Down.  He said his parents were weavers of "book linen."  John was a seaman who married a widow, Mary Crozier, whose married name is unknown.

In the 1830s there was a John Kelly in Ballymagee and another in Lisbane, both in Bangor Parish.  Does John Kelley's name show up in any church records in Bangor Parish, either his or his children Martha I. and John R. Kelley? 

We are trying pinpoint just where John and his family lived and who his parents were.  There are several Kelly/Kelley families buried in the Bangor Abbey graveyard. 

Thanks, Carole


Looking for any information on Bernard Cullen (b. 1845-1849) who was born in
Co. Leitrim Ireland. He came to the US around 1860-65 and settled in
Philadelphia, PA, where he married Catherine Kelly in 1867 and raised three
children before dying in 1924. He remained in the Philadelphia area.

His death certificate lists his parents as John Cullen and Bridget
Devanny(sp?) both from Ireland. I don't know if his parents traveled to the
US or not. I have Bernard and his family on all US Census records and know a
lot about him and his family on the US side.

I'm looking for any clues to his Irish birth place, his parents and how he
swam to Philadelphia.

Jim Cullen
West Virginia


Genealogy - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jimcullen/
Trains - http://jim-cullen.tripod.com/
http://www.connorsgenealogy.net/Leitrim/
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Timahoe, Ireland.

Donal, I got this from another Kelly researcher. And There seems to be two Timahoe's in Ireland, one in Kildare the other in Laios an adjoining county. George


George,      I thought that you might like to know that I stumbled across a Walter Kelly born in Ireland about 1700; he is married to Elizabeth and they had four sons:  William (b. about 1726 in Timahoe), Timothey (b. about 1727 in Timahoe), Walter (b. about 1728 in Timahoe) and Samuel (b. about 1730 in Timahoe).  I also remember that land was granted in S. Carolina to Walter Kelley, Sr. and his wife Elizabeth.  I am wondering if this doesn't indicate that the entire Kelly family (parents, and all four boys) didn't immigrate from Ireland.  Something else to follow up on.  Anyway.

Ford


HI
I am looking for any information on anyoine in this family.

Wiliam Kelly b ireland ca 1796
married Bridget ? about 1815

children:
Mary Ann Kelly b Ct 11 1817 Ireland
married William Downs 1847 Cathedral Manchester England
died 1876 Fall River MA USA

Solomon Kelly b abt 1821 Ireland

Eliza Kelly b abt 1826 Ireland

Michael Kelly b abt 1826 Ireland

William Kelly b abt 1826 Ireland

Patrick Kelly b 1828 Ireland
married Ann Gavin 1851 Cathedral Manchester England
died 1859 Manchester England

Bridget Kelly b abt 1831 Ireland


Children of Patrick Kelly and Ann Gavin

Hannah Kelly b 1852 Manchester England
married JOhn Garvey 1871 Manchester England
died 1934 Fall RIver MA USA

William Kelly b 1853 Manchester England
James Kelly b 1856 Manchester England

Mary Kelly b 1859 Manchester England
married Jeremiah Carey 1887 Fall RIver MA USA

I hope someone has a connection.

Pat

My gg grandfather was named  James Kelly.   He fought   in the cival war. 
Confederate side.  He waS BORN  AROUND   1842.   His birth was  in mcminn county
tn.   I run  into a block after this.  If I could get some help  It would be 
appreciated.                                                       Thanks
frank         Old  navy@aol.com
 


Kildare, Ireland:

Of the many Kelly Clans of Ireland I am looking for is the one represented by

Walter Kelly and Wife Elizabeth from the village of Timahoe, Kildare, Ireland.

They came to the colonies with a Quaker Group abt. 1750, docked in South Carolina with four sons that were born in Timahoe, Kildare, Ireland.
1.  William Kelly b. abt 1726 d. abt 1776  in Kanawha VA; Greenbriar (Now WV)
2.  Timothy Kelly b. abt 1727
3.  Walter Kelly (Jr.) b. abt 1728 buried in Greenbriar WV (Not sure if it is Sr. or Jr.)
4.  Samuel Kelly b. abt 1730

After helping establish the Quaker Church in SC they, as a family unit sold their SC land and moved to western VA; Pittslyvania County, Greenbriar area, Kanawha River Valley area.  There Walter Kelly was killed by Indians, about a year later William Kelly was killed by Indians.  The families moved back to the Kershaw or Camden districts of SC.

Children of Walter Kelly (Jr.) I think:
1.  James Kelly b. abt. 1760 in Pittslyvania, VA d. 1840 in Maury, TN. (My Line).
2.  Jacob Kelly b. abt 1765 d. 1828 in Kanawha, WV
3.  Benjamin b. abt 1766 in VA
4.  Aaron Kelly b. abt 1770 d. abt 1854 in Kanawha, WV

I have two similar Kelly Files of the descendants of this Walter Kelly family and it is difficult to separate the brothers from the sons, from the nephews etc.

If any of this rings a bell I'd love to share info.  Maybe we can identify & clarify some of this genealogy mystery.

Thanks. glkelly@jscomm.net

George.
 


The Blake Kellys, according to the landed Gentry of Ireland P 406 were
originally from Oranmore, Galway which is near Galway city.
The Blakes (I think) were one of the twelve tribes of Galway city.
 Gustavus William F Blake Kelly was of Dundermott, Roscommon & was born in
Oranmore, his father being Thomas Kelly of Rockhill, Oranmore, Galway & his
mother being BELINDA (D MAR 23 1889) DR OF HENRY BLAKE, BALLYGLUNIN PARK,
BALLYGLUNIN Galway. (From the "Index of Townlands, Towns & Parishes etc the
spelling is Ballyglooneen in Kilmoylan parish which is fairly close to
Oranmore.)
Where Thomas came from I have no idea but I do have some info from this
Thomas. They are probably of the Hy Main sept which is of east Galway &
southern Roscommon.
Mike Kelly, Sydney, Oz
profnedone@bigpond.com


 Hi Cheryl (from New Zealand)

 My ggrandfather, Francis William Blake Kelly better known as William Blake
 Kelly may have come from Dunmore in Waterford. Family tradition has it
 that
 he was shipped off to Australia for some unknown reason. In 1863 he joined
 the Waikato Militia in Melbourne to fight in the New Zealand Wars. The
 Blake
 part was considered important and his grandchildren all became
 Blake-Kelly's. I did find some records for some men who played cricket for
 Dublin University, one, Gustavus William Blake kelly was later a
 Magistrate
 in the UK.
 David Blake Kelly, who played O'Reilly in Faulty Towers, does look very
 much
 like my grandfather and one of his brothers. A google search brings up
 lots
 but nothing like a fan club or some where to get in touch. I would love to
 know where my F.W.B. Kelly came from.
 The Nelson part is another story, Norwegian Seaman jumps ship, do not even
 know if his name was really Nelson.
 

GALWAY:

Hi Donal,

I know Kelly is a terribly common name, but I have a line that goes to
two different Kelly families in the Tuam, Athenry, (and parts between)
areas and I never pass up an opportunity to find links to them.  I
wondered if any of the following link into your research? 

Thanks, Rick Haverty

Here's my family...

Thomas Kelly was born Abt. 1781 in Ireland. 
  There were many Kellys in 1821 Athenry, No Castle Lambert, as a
townland section anyway. But at Castle Ellen as follows : Thomas Kelly
40.  his wife Margaret, Michael 8, Mary 10, John 6, Honoria 2, &Bridget
1.  Lamberts lived at Castle Ellen they had two servants Jane Haverty
18 and Mary Haverty 14.   Other Castle Ellen Havertys were  John 55,
Bridget wife 28, Martin 13, & Catherine 11,    Honoria Haverty widow,
50,  Peter, 17, Margaret 12, Sisly, 9. and Bridget 4.  No other
Havertys in Athenry unlike the Kellys.  Hope this is of some help, Dave
Blair  
 
  Thomas married Margaret UNKNOWN on UNKNOWN in UNKNOWN. 
 
Thomas Kelly and Margaret UNKNOWN had the following children:

 
  1. Michael Kelly was born Abt. 1813 in Ireland.   

  2. Mary Kelly was born Abt. 1811 in Ireland.   

  3. John Kelly was born Abt. 1814 in Ireland.   

  4. Honoria Kelly was born Abt. 1819 in Ireland.   

  5. Bridget Kelly was born Abt. 1820 in Ireland. 

Michael Kelly (parents Thomas Kelly and Margaret UNKNOWN) was born Abt.
1813 in Ireland. 
 
  Michael married Mary Kelly on UNKNOWN in UNKNOWN. Mary (parent
UNKNOWN Kelly) was born in Ireland.  (This is two different Kelly
families)
 
Michael Kelly and Mary Kelly had the following children:

 
  1. Margaret Josephine Kelly was born 24 Jun 1867 in Athenry, Galway,
Ireland. She died 2 Jul 1954 in Waltham, MA USA.   

  2. Brigid Kelly was born Feb 1857 in Athenry, Galway, Ireland. She
died in Massachusetts.   

  3. Ellen Kelly was born in Athenry,Galway,Ireland.   

  4. Mary Kelly was born May 1859 in Athenry,Galway,Ireland. She died
1932 in Waltham,Massachusetts.   

  5. Michael Kelly.  
   

Had 3 boys and two girls  

  6. Sarah Kelly.  
   

Never married, no children  

  7. Hannora (Nora) Kelly was born 1855 in Ireland. She died 16 Jun
1891 in Waltham, MA, USA.   

  8. John Kelly died in Ireland.   

  9. Patrick Kelly was born Abt 1860 in Athenry,Galway,Ireland.   

  10. Thaddeus Kelly was born Abt 1863 in Athenry,Galway,Ireland.   

  11. Thaddeus II Kelly was born Abt 1866 in Athenry,Galway,Ireland.

 


Hi Pat,
 
I have a Kelly family that seems very similar to yours, especially the  "Fall
River" part.  The children you list could very well be the older  siblings of
the children I have.  I found these children on the ships  manifest and in
the census of Fall River.  The family lived in Oldham,  Lancashire, England
before coming to the U.S. The family is listed below... Let  me know what you
think.
 
Paula
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Descendants of William  Kelly

1   William Kelly b: Abt. 1811 in Kildare,  Ireland                
..  +Bridget-? b: Abt. 1815 in Sligo, Ireland   m:  Abt. 1836 in Sligo,
Ireland   Relationship:  Married        

... 2   John Kelly b: Abt. 1838 in Sligo,  Ireland   
... 2   Martin Kelly b: Abt. 1840  
... 2   William Kelly b: 1843 in Sligo, Ireland 
... 2   Mary-Ann Kelly b: Abt. 1849 in Sligo,  Ireland  
... 2   Bridget Kelly b: Abt. 1852 in Oldham,  Lancashire, England 
... 2   Thomas Kelly b: 21 Nov 1859 in Oldham,  Lancashire, England    
     Age at death: 55  Burial: 16 Nov  1915 Oak Grove  Cemetery,     Fall   
River,  Massachusetts  
.......  +Ellen-Mariah  Knight b: 09 Aug 1859 in Valley Falls, Smithfield,
Rhode Island   m: Abt. 1880    Age at death:  56est.                            
  
Father: James-B.* Knight Mother: Mariah* Nolan

........ 3   Anne-Mildred Kelly b: 1882 in  Massachusetts   Source:  Birth -
1910  census     
............  +Joseph  Lewis b: 1881 in Portugal   m: 1902 in Fall River, 
Massachusetts     Immigration:  1882    Occupation: Piper at the Merchant  Mills
   Source: Birth - 1910 census Source: Marriage  info. from 1910 census    
........ 3   Geneva-Eva Kelly b: 1887 in Massachusetts   Source:  Birth -
1910 census     
........ 3   Thomas-Francis Kelly b: 15 Mar 1889 in Fall River, 
Massachusetts   Military service: WWI, Source: Birth - 1910  census     
 

Patrick Kelly was born 1709 in North Ireland and died 27 June 1769 in Hershey, Daughin, Pennsylvania. He married Rachel Wineas 10 feb 1731/1732 in  Chester County Pennsylvania. They had 9 children who were born in Daughin County PA.
  1. Rachel Kelly was born 1735.
  2. George Kelly was born 1737.
  3. Anne Kelly was born 1739.
  4. Patrick Kelly was born 28 April 1743 and died 28 Oct 1806 in Hershey, Daughin, PA.
  5. Henry Kelly was born 28 April 1743 and died 10 Feb 1813 in Hershey, Daughin, PA.
  6.John Kelly, Col was born Feb 1741/1744  and died 18 Feb 1832 in Lancaster Co. PA. He married Sarah Poak.
  7. Thomas Kelly was born 1747.
  8. James Kelly was born 1749 and died 10 Feb 1813 in Hershey, Daughin, PA. He married Elizabeth.
  9. Mary Kelly was born 1751.


Judy Daniels   jubert65@yahoo.com
 

My "most wanted" is my 2nd greatgrandfather, Patrick KELLY, b. abt. 1820,
Galway, IrelandUS/western PA, c. early to mid 1840's; married Mary Ann DOLAN
(1825--1890) c. 1850; parents of two known children:  Patrick/Patsy, b. abt.
1851/52, PA; and Mary Anna, b. Aug 1854, PA.

Searching for date/place of death/burial, c. 1855-57; sometime after the
birth of dau. Mary Anna KELLY; appears as godparent at birth of brother-in-law,
Thomas DOLAN's first born child, 1855, Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA.

Mary Ann nee DOLAN KELLY marries a second time to Richard HALL; parents of
four known children:  John, b. 1857; Richard, b. 1859; Elizabeth/Lizzie, b.
1861; Ida Julia, b. 1864.

Thanks for your time, and the best of luck with all your family searches.

Marybeth C.
acmbjc@aol.com
 

A ghost story
As told by Patrick C. CASEY from Rathkeane, Ruan to his grandaughter Mary CASEY (1937-38)

There is a farm near Ballygriffy Castle called Peafield, in the parish of Ruan. Jeremiah KELLY of Port lived there at one time, and an animal in the shape of a pig or a wolf used to appear to people who used to pass there late at night. The people used to call the animal Turla (?) One night a child of the KELLY's was taken from his side in the bed and was thrown into the fire, and was burned to death in their presence and they could not save it. After a short time Mr. KELLY left the house and went to live in Ballygriffey House.

___________________________________________________________
HURLING & FOOTBALL-author not given

The game of hurling was not played in this parish (Ruan) long ago but the game of football was.
All the young men of the parish used to come to a certain field after dinner on a Sunday and they used to make two teams, one from each side of the parish - those north & east of the village on one side and those from the south & west of the village on the other.
The ball was thrown in by the Curate of the parish who acted as referee. They had no goal posts as we have now but they kicked from one end of the townland in which the field was to the other. If the ball went over the wall into the next townland it counted as a goal. There were no points in those days. The referee scarcely ever blew the whistle for fouls. It was only when a row started (which was often in those days)that he interfered, and when he had restored peace the game re-started. They continued at the game until dusk and then returned to their respective homes. They played in different townlands on different Sundays. The ball used was bigger than that now used. It sometimes consisted of a pig's bladder covered with leather by a local shoemaker and was scarecely round.
___________________________________________________________
The following is a list of popular figures in Ruan

Weight Throwers
SULLIVAN, Dan- Dromconora
KELLY, Jim-Bealnalicka

Walkers
HEALY, Michael-Ballaghboy
Used to walk from Ruan to Limerick and back -about 60 miles- in one day

Mowers
CASSIDY,Martin-Nooan
RYAN, Micahel-Nooan
These two men used to mow 1 & quarter acres in one day.

Dancers
KELLY, Patsy-Bealnalicka (jigs & reels)
WHELAN, Billy (known as Billy the Dancer)

Singers
CUSACK, Denis-Cooga
Brother of Michael CUSACK of GAA fame

Bowlers
QUINN, Jim-Ballymacrogan

Musicians
HAMILTON, Billy (bagpipes)



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Thank you ever so much.  Is there significance in the middle name and how prevelant were middle names in the mid 1800's (among the Irish)?
 
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Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Sequence of naming children


The 'Irish naming pattern' was more seen among Catholics than others, I've 
read, but even so was not followed reliably so don't get trapped by it:
 
- first son for paternal grandfather
- second son for maternal grandfather
- third son for father
- fourth son for eldest paternal uncle
- fifth son for eldest maternal uncle
- sixth son for second eldest paternal uncle
- seventh son for second eldest maternal uncle
- etc.
 
- first daughter for maternal grandmother
- second daughter for paternal grandmother
- third daughter for mother
- fourth daughter for eldest maternal aunt
etc.
 
19th and early 20th centuries


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GALWAY, Tuam area: This is from Province Connaught.

Hi Donal,

I know Kelly is a terribly common name, but I have a line that goes to
two different Kelly families in the Tuam, Athenry, (and parts between)
areas and I never pass up an opportunity to find links to them.  I
wondered if any of the following link into your research? 

Thanks, Rick Haverty

Here's my family...

Thomas Kelly was born Abt. 1781 in Ireland. 
  There were many Kellys in 1821 Athenry, No Castle Lambert, as a
townland section anyway. But at Castle Ellen as follows : Thomas Kelly
40.  his wife Margaret, Michael 8, Mary 10, John 6, Honoria 2, &Bridget
1.  Lamberts lived at Castle Ellen they had two servants Jane Haverty
18 and Mary Haverty 14.   Other Castle Ellen Havertys were  John 55,
Bridget wife 28, Martin 13, & Catherine 11,    Honoria Haverty widow,
50,  Peter, 17, Margaret 12, Sisly, 9. and Bridget 4.  No other
Havertys in Athenry unlike the Kellys.  Hope this is of some help, Dave
Blair  
 
  Thomas married Margaret UNKNOWN on UNKNOWN in UNKNOWN. 
 
Thomas Kelly and Margaret UNKNOWN had the following children:

 
  1. Michael Kelly was born Abt. 1813 in Ireland.   

  2. Mary Kelly was born Abt. 1811 in Ireland.   

  3. John Kelly was born Abt. 1814 in Ireland.   

  4. Honoria Kelly was born Abt. 1819 in Ireland.   

  5. Bridget Kelly was born Abt. 1820 in Ireland. 

Michael Kelly (parents Thomas Kelly and Margaret UNKNOWN) was born Abt.
1813 in Ireland. 
 
  Michael married Mary Kelly on UNKNOWN in UNKNOWN. Mary (parent
UNKNOWN Kelly) was born in Ireland.  (This is two different Kelly
families)
 
Michael Kelly and Mary Kelly had the following children:

 
  1. Margaret Josephine Kelly was born 24 Jun 1867 in Athenry, Galway,
Ireland. She died 2 Jul 1954 in Waltham, MA USA.   

  2. Brigid Kelly was born Feb 1857 in Athenry, Galway, Ireland. She
died in Massachusetts.   

  3. Ellen Kelly was born in Athenry,Galway,Ireland.   

  4. Mary Kelly was born May 1859 in Athenry,Galway,Ireland. She died
1932 in Waltham,Massachusetts.   

  5. Michael Kelly.  
   

Had 3 boys and two girls  

  6. Sarah Kelly.  
   

Never married, no children  

  7. Hannora (Nora) Kelly was born 1855 in Ireland. She died 16 Jun
1891 in Waltham, MA, USA.   

  8. John Kelly died in Ireland.   

  9. Patrick Kelly was born Abt 1860 in Athenry,Galway,Ireland.   

  10. Thaddeus Kelly was born Abt 1863 in Athenry,Galway,Ireland.   

  11. Thaddeus II Kelly was born Abt 1866 in Athenry,Galway,Ireland.

 


DONEGAL COUNTY, IRELAND

 

Hello Listers:

I am new to the list and I am attempting to find the ancestors and descendants of Thomas Francis Kelly who
was reportedly from Donegal, Ireland,  and immigrated to Canada, sometime between 1800 and 1838.

According to "Who's Where; A Guide To The Cemeteries of Rideau
Township" edited by Jim Kennedy and produced by the Rideau
Heritage Board of Publication, Township of Rideau, in 1980,
Thomas Francis KELLY [My G-G-Grandfather & father of my G-
Grandfather, James KELLY] is listed as being buried in Christ
Church Anglican Cemetery which is located in Burritts Rapids,
Oxford-on-Rideau Township, Grenville County, Ontario, Canada
with his wife Hannah BROWN KELLY. The transcriptions on the
gravemarker read..."Thomas KELLY...Died...28, April, 1891 at age
90 years, and Hannah KELLY...Died 15, March, (The Year Is Blank?)
Why the year of death for Hannah is not on the gravemarker {It is
smooth; as if it was never chiseled} is a mystery to me.

Thomas KELLY's place of birth on the Ontario Census of 1871 was listed
as Ireland. His ethnicity was also listed as Irish. His religion was listed
as Church of England, Anglican, making him Irish Protestant. His
occupation was listed as a Labourer. This census also listed the district
he lived in as Leeds & Grenville North, (070), Oxford-on-Rideau
Township. By my calculations, he would have been born in
approximately 1800, somewhere in Ireland. I also recently received an obituary
of this youngest son, Albert Kelly, which indicated that Thomas Francis Kelly
was from Donegal, Ireland.

I have placed Thomas KELLY in Oxford-on-Rideau Township, Grenville County,
Ontario County as early as 1838 {When my Great-Grandfather, James KELLY, & his
eldest son was born in Burritts Rapids}.  Furthermore, I have citations from
the 1840 assessment rolls & Census of Oxford-on-Rideau County that places
Thomas Kelly at this same location.  1835 would be about the right time for
him at the age of 35 to come to Upper Canada (probably Montreal) via ship.
Of course he could have come to Canada anytime between 1800 to 1838.  I have
also been advised that for him to have been a "Naavie" (A labourer on the Rideau
Canal or Railroad) would have been unusual because he was protestant.  I was
also advised that because he was protestant he should have been higher educated.
However, Thomas Kelly's, youngest son, Albert Kelly, and his grandson, Nathan
Tompkins Kelly (my grandfather) were both illiterate and both were labourers.

According to the 1861,; 1871; & 1881 Oxford-on-Rideau Township,
Grenville County Census, Thomas & Hannah KELLY had the
following 15 children:

1.James KELLY...My G-Grandfather & their eldest son; Born in Burritts
Rapids on 09, Sept., 1838. He is also found on the 1871 Census of
Ontario & listed as follows: "Age 33; Birthplace: Ontario; Religion:
Methodist; Origin: Irish; Occupation: Farmer; District: KENT (002);
Sub-district: Harwich (D)..."
2. Susana KELLY...Born about 1841 in Upper Canada.
3. Mary KELLY...Born about 1842 in Upper Canada.
4. Sarah KELLY...Born about 1843 in Upper Canada.
5. Elizabeth KELLY...Born about 1845 in Upper Canada.
6. Naomi KELLY...Born about 1847 in Upper Canada.
7. Kezeth KELLY...Born about 1848 in Upper Canada.
8. Maria KELLY...Born about 1851 in Upper Canada..."On 22, March,
1851; Certificate # 004644...of Kemptville {year/75..remarks..} - Age
21. (Residence-) Born in ONT, married John ROSE. Parents:
Thomas & Hannah Brown KELLY (Rel.-METH) WIT: IAS ROSE,
MERRICKVILLE. THOMAS KELLY, OXFORD."
9. Sophia KELLY...Born about 1851 in Upper Canada.
10. Jamima KELLY...Born about 1853 or 1855 in Upper Canada.
11. Jarusha KELLY...Born about 1855 or 1856 in Upper Canada..."On
04, February, 1874; Certificate # 005468...of MERRICKVILLE {year/74
...remarks..}...Age 20. (Residence - MERRICKVILLE) Born in Burritts
Rapids, married JAMES ALBERT ROSE-Parents: Thomas & Hannah
(Rel-METH) WIT: WM & CATHERINE ROSE."
12. Martha KELLY...Born about 1857 in Upper Canada..."On 09, Jan.,
1873; Certificate#007325...of KEMPTVILLE {year/73..remarks}..Age
20 (Residence-) Born in Wolford T, married Edmund FULCHER.
Parents: Thomas & Hannah KELLY (Rel - ) Wit: Wm BROWN &
Maria KELLY."
13. William KELLY...Born about 1859 in Upper Canada.
14. Thomas KELLY...Born about 1859 or 1861 in Upper Canada.
15. Albert KELLY...Born about 1863 or 1866 in Ontario.

To this date, I have been unable to locate any of the aforementioned
children's gravesides or descendants.

The eldest son of these 15 children of Thomas Francis & Hannah
KELLY born between 1838 & about 1866 [28 years] was my G-
Grandfather; James KELLY. He married Rebecca TOMPKINS
[Daughter of Nathan TOMPKINS-Veteran of the War of 1812-who
was the son of Israel TOMPKINS-A well-known United Empire
Loyalist from New York, state]. James KELLY & Rebecca
TOMPKINS KELLY were the parents of my Grandfather, Nathan
Tompkins KELLY; born 24, August, 1867 in Blenheim, Harwich
Township, Kent County, Ontario. Nathan Tompkins KELLY (At
about 14) with James & Rebecca TOMPKINS KELLY and family
immigrated to the United States in about 1879 & eventually
were found residing in Findlay, Hancock County, Ohio on the
June 6, 1900 U. S. Census. My father, Luther James KELLY
(youngest son of Nathan TOMPKINS KELLY & first generation
born American) was born in Findlay, Ohio in 1907.

I acquired a copy of Thomas Francis KELLY's Death Record from the
L.D.S. Family History Center as follows: Deaths (V. E-G) 1891:
Family History Library US/CAN Film # 1853538.

Under Scehdule C. -- Deaths; County of Peterborough; Division of
Belmont; I discovered the following:

* Name and Surname of Deceased...
Thomas Francis Kelly

* When Died...
28, April, 1891

* Sex - Male or Female...
Male

* Age...
92

* Rank or Profession...
Farmer (A stamped # 013178 appears on this line)

* Where Born...
Ireland

* Certified Cause of Death and Duration of Illness...
Inflammation of prostate glands & old age. 3 days.

* Name of Physician, if any...
W. H. Jeffs M. D.

* Signature Description and Residence of Informant...
John W. Grew (Or Grue...Hard to Read)

* When Registered...
30, June, 1891

* Religious Denomination of Deceased...
E.

* Signature of Registrar...
Porter Preston

According to the 1891 Census of Belmont Township, Peterborough
County, Ontario, on 16, April, 1891 [12 days before Thomas Francis
KELLY died] the Census Taker paid a visit & wrote the following:

" FULCHER, Martha, age 34, widow, born in Ontario, father born in
Ireland, mother born in Ontario, Methodist.

FULCHER, Frederick, age 14, son, born in Ontario, father born in
Ontario, father and mother born in Ontario, Methodist.

FULCHER, Francis, age 12, son, born in Ontario, father and mother
born in Ontario, Methodist.

FULCHER, Lillie, age 9, daughter, born in Ontario, father and mother
born in Ontario, Methodist.

FULCHER, Herbert, age 5, son, born in Ontario, father and mother
born in Ontario, Methodist.

FULCHER, Henery J., Looks like he's two months old, son, father and
mother born in Ontario, Methodist.

KELLEY, Thomas, age 92, widow, father, born in Ireland, father and
mother born in Ireland, Church of England.

GREW, Wesley, age 27, born in Ontario, father and mother born in
Ontario, Methodist, Blacksmith.

GREW, Emma, age 17, wife, born in Ontario, father born in England,
mother born in Ontario, Methodist.

GREW, Earnest, age 1, son, born in Ontario, father and mother born in
Ontario, Methodist."

Thomas, Martha, Frederick, Francis, and Lillie could all read and write.
Also, if Martha was a widow, but had a newborn baby, Edmund
FULCHER, her husband, may have died within the previous year.
Perhaps John W. GREW is John Wesley GREW, the Informant on
Thomas Francis KELLY's Death Record. And perhaps Emma GREW
was the eldest daughter of Martha KELLY FULCHER. It is obvious
that Thomas Francis KELLY was living with his twelfth born child,
Martha KELLY FULCHER, whenever he died in Belmont Township.

Certainly, there had to be descendants of Thomas Francis KELLY's
15 children, besides me & my Kelly line. If you have possible
FULCHER, GREW [Not certain of spelling], TOMPKINS, or BROWN
connections to this family please contact me.

My Great Great Grandfather James KELLY [Born: 09, Sep., 1838 in Burritts Rapids, Oxford-on-Rideau Township, Grenville County, Upper Canada & who died: 07, Feb., 1922 at about 83 years of age in El Dorado, Butler County, Kansas] appears on the 1861 Oxford-on-Rideau Leebee Census at age 23 as a part of his father's Thomas Francis KELLY's [Born somewhere in Ireland about 1800-Died 28, April, 1891 at age 90 or 92 in Belmont Township, Peterboro County, Ontario-Buried in Burritts Rapids Christ Church Anglican Cemetery, Oxford-on-Rideau Township, Grenville County, Ontario] family, just before he
migrated to Harwich Township, Kent County, Upper Canada.

I found James KELLY on the 1871 Ontario Census as a 33 year old farmer of the Methodist Religion [His father, Thomas KELLY, was Anglican or Episcopalian] living in Kent District; Harwich Subdistrict. The 1871 Ontario Census also lists James KELLY's birthplace and his ethnicity as Irish.

The Archiva Index to the 1871 Census of Ontario - National Archives of Canada lists James KELLY as follows: "Age: 33; Birthplace: Ontario; Religion: Methodist: Origin: Irish; Occupation: Farmer; District: KENT (002); Sub-district: Harwich (D); Division: 2; Page: 8; Microfilm reel: C-9891: Reference: RG31 -- Statistics Canada."

James KELLY subsequently married Rebecca TOMPKINS [Born: about 1841 in Upper Canada or Quebec-Died: May of 1923 in El Dorado, Butler County, Kansas at the age of 82. She was the daughter of Nathan TOMPKINS] in 1862.

The "Kent County, Ontario Marriage Registers 1857-1869; Volume One" lists: "James KELLY, age 22, of Harwich, born Canada, s/o Thomas & Hannah, Married 04, May, 1862, Rebecca TOMPKINS, age 21, of Harwich, Born Canada, d/o Nathan & Rebecca. Witnesses: Richer TOMPKINS of____________; Eliza TOMPKINS of____________.

While residing in Kent County from about 1862 until about 1879 (17 years), James KELLY & Rebecca KELLY had the following children:

1. Electa Hannah KELLY (Married name--PRESSNELL): Born: 14, February, 1862 in KENT County, Ontario, Canada. Died: 13, March, 1915 in Findlay, Hancock County, Ohio. Her Record of Death in probate court indicated that she was 52 when she died of paralysis. Her occupation was listed as a dressmaker. Her address was 882 Park in Findlay, Ohio at the time of her death and she had no surviving children.

2. Nathan Tompkins KELLY (My Grandfather): Born: 24, August, 1867 in
Blenheim, Kent County, Ontario, Canada. Died: 06, December, 1934, at age 67, in Artesia, Eddy County, New Mexico. He died early on a Thursday morning (8:30 a.m.) at his home, about a mile Northwest of Artesia, of pneumonia. He had moved to Artesia, New Mexico in 1924, during the early oil boom and was an oil rig driller and builder. The U.S. 1900 Census of Findlay, Hancock County, Ohio, lists Nathan TOMPKINS KELLY and his father, James KELLY, as attaining the status of a naturalized U. S. citizen in 1879, at about the age of 14. Since his youngest sister, Orpha Jane KELLY, was born in Kent County in 1875, it appears that he and his family emigrated from Canada between 1875 & 1879. Because his maternal grandparents, Nathan & Rebecca TOMPKINS both died in 1879, it is conceivable that this is the year that Nathan Tompkins KELLY & his family emigrated to the U. S. Nathan Tompkins KELLY married Laura Marie STATELER on 25, December, 1893 in Ohio. They had the following children:

(1) Nathan Tompkins KELLY, Jr. (Born: 21, Dec., 1894 in Findlay, Hancock County, Ohio-Died: 27, October, 1977 in Artesia, Eddy County, New Mexico)

(2) Carl Stateler KELLY (Born: 05, Jan., 1896 in Findlay, Hancock County, Ohio-Died: 22, November, 1966 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma)

(3) Laura Marie KELLY (CHESNUT) (Born: 27, Aug., 1898 in Findlay, Hancock County, Ohio-Died: 12, Jan., 1978 in Mount Pleasant, Michigan)

(4) Hugh David KELLY (Born: 12, Jul., 1900 in Findlay, Hancock County,
Ohio-Died: 16, Aug., 1973 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma)

(5) Doratha Rebecca KELLY (PAINTER) (Born: 07, Jul., 1904 in Findlay,
Hancock County, Ohio-Died: 1998 in Waco, Texas)

(6) Luther James KELLY (My Father) (Born: 15, Jun., 1907 in Findlay, Hancock County, Ohio-Died: 15, Jul., 1972 in Borger, Hutchinson County, Texas)

3. Orpha Jane KELLY (Married name -- BRANDENBERG): Born: 6, June, 1875 in Kent County, Ontario, Canada. Died: 09, September, 1917, at age 42 of chronic nephritus arteriosclerosis in Findlay, Hancock County, Ohio! The Record of Death -- Probate Court of Hancock County, listed her residence address as 622 Washington Street in Findlay, Ohio! She had no known living children.

If anyone recognizes this family please contact me.

Loren Kelly

e-mail:
Sirkelly52@ev1.net

Website:
"Kelly Irish Canadian Korner & My Delaware Moor Ancestry"

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/k/e/l/Loren-G-Kelly/

Kelly Motto: "Turis - Fortis - Mihi - Deus!"
"God Is My Tower of Strength!"

Check out these Donegal Information Sites
The Griffith's Valuation & other statistics at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/
Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm
O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/
Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/
Donegal Database- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html
Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/
 


Don,   My cousin, Joyce Plemmons Friddle, sent your email address so we can see if there is a connection between your Kelly and my Kelley families.  If you're interested I'll send you an invitation to the site that has all my information - - - would you do the same for me?   Thanks,   Judith Mikles Gartner

COUNTIES CLARE AND GALWAY

I can give you one instance of a Kelly who lived on the Clare-Galway border.
My greatgrandmother, Sarah Kelly, married Fergus Kerrigan in Kilmacduagh,
Galway, in 1860, but they raised their family on a farm in Kilourney townland,
which is in Clare but a short walk from Kilmacdaugh. Sarah had Kelly relatives
also in border townlands (Peter and James in Rockvale and Michael in Attyslany
North in Griffith's). I have some old letters that mention other Kellys--what
was your Kelly ancestor's given name?

Diane
 


RAYMOND KELLY, DOWN, IRELAND

1. My Family •••
My web site has been built to help people researching their ancestors in County Down especially in the areas of Banbridge, Dromore, Kilkeel and Mourne in the...
  ...Kelly Raymond (Myself) Born 9th November 1933 in Banbridge Co Down, now living in Scotland, married Catherine Sandford Miller 1954 in Wishaw,...
  ...Kelly William James (My Father) Was born March 26th.1909 in Quilly, Dromore, and died 1986 in Lanark, Scotland. William James Kelly married Maria...
  ...Maria Florence Kelly, nee Hawthorne died 1978 in Lanark, Scotland. Family of William James Kelly and Maria Florence Kelly Raymond Kelly, born 9th...
74% Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:51:00 GMT http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com/html/my_family.htm

2. Kilcoo •••
Valuation of Tenements 1863 County of Down Barony of Mourne Union of Kilkeel Kilcoo Parish Kilmorey Estate = Trustees of the Kilmorey Estate...
  ...John Kelly Same Land Same Hugh McIntyre Same Land Same Richard Smith Same House, Office & Land 0--1--20 0--2--32 3--2--25 John Kelly...
  ...John Kelly Same Same 2--2--27 John Smith Same Same 1--2--32 William Cowen Same Same 8--1--25 James Fagan Same Same 6--1--10 14--1--15...
  ...John Kelly, Jun. Same House, Office & Land 3--3--15 Owen Kelly Same House, Offices & Land 2--1--37 Catherine McEvoy Owen Kelly House Bernard...
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3. Newcastle •••
Valuation of Tenements 1863 County of Down Barony of Mourne Union of Kilkeel Kilcoo Parish Parish of Kilcoo Parish of Kilcoo Key...
  ...John Kelly Same Land Same Hugh McIntyre Same Land Same Richard Smith Same House, Office & Land 0--1--20 0--2--32 3--2--25 John Kelly...
  ...John Kelly Same Same 2--2--27 John Smith Same Same 1--2--32 William Cowen Same Same 8--1--25 James Fagan Same Same 6--1--10 14--1--15...
  ...John Kelly, Jun. Same House, Office & Land 3--3--15 Owen Kelly Same House, Offices & Land 2--1--37 Catherine McEvoy Owen Kelly House Bernard...
69% Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:25:34 GMT http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com/html/newcastle3.htm

4. New Page 1 •••
People Researching Ancestors The Rostrevor Area Reseaching our Down Roots by Judy Mckeon O'Hears Clonallan Tithes 1834 O'H...
  ...Owen Kelly, Margaret McConville 14 Feb 1817 Patrick Patrick O’Hair, Mary O’Hair Bernard O’Hair, Alice Gribben 6 Aug 1819 Peter...
  ...Isaac O’Hare, Margaret Kelly John Kelly, Catherine Gribben Bn 25 Dec 1865 Bermard Isaac O’Hare, Margaret Kelly Bn 19 Nov 1867...
  ...O’Hare, Margaret Kelly Bn 18 Jun 1869 Bpt 29 Jun 1869 Bridget Isaac O’Hare, Margaret Kelly Bernard Kelly and Kate Kelly Bn 8 Jul...
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5. Newcastle •••
Bryansford Bryansford Births Name Born Father Mother Adams, Hamilton 06 Nov 1867 John Adams Mary Jane McKnight Ady, Alexander 22 Jun 18...
  ...McCrickard, Bridget 03 Oct 1869 John McCrickard Ellen Kelly McCrickard, James 23 Aug 1869 James McCrickard Mary Rogers McCullagh, Mary 03 Jul...
  ...Kelly, Hugh 18 May 1865 Bernard Kelly Mary M'Clean Kelly, Margaret 07 Mar 1865 Cormick Kelly Alice Cunningham Kelly, Cathrine 08 Oct 1867...
  ...1867 Charles Kelly Margaret Fenan Kelly, Daniel 05 Nov 1867 John Kelly Margaret Kelly Kelly, Eliza 26 May 1868 James Kelly Mary Rush Kelly,...
68% Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:25:47 GMT http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com/html/newcastle6.htm

6. County Down Deeds in 1876 •••
County Down Land Deeds in 1876 K Francis Kane, address Damolly, Newry, owned 8 acres. Bridget Kean, address Mayo, Newry, owned 4 acres. Felix...
  ...Gilbert Kelly, address Carnew, owned 11 acres. Peter Kelly, address Mayo, Killtown, owned 16 acres. Samuel Kelly, address Ballysallagh, owned 47...
  ...William Kelly, same address, owned 3 acres. Henderson Kelso, address Lisburn, owned 36 acres. Charles G. Kennedy, no address given, owned 102 acres....
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7. About me •••
My web site has been built to help people researching their ancestors in County Down especially in the areas of Banbridge, Dromore, Kilkeel and Mourne in the...
  ...My name is Raymond Kelly, and I was born in Banbridge on the 9th November 1933. My Father was William Kelly from Quilly Burn in Dromore and my Mother...
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8. Photos •••
My web site has been built to help people researching their ancestors in County Down especially in the areas of Banbridge, Dromore, Kilkeel and Mourne in the...
  ...Midge Barr,?, Raymond Kelly, (Scotland) Billy Kelly, (Bangor) Front row, Harry Carson,?, (with tie), & Billy Toman, (Scotland) John Darragh, (Jack),...
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9. Valuation of Tenements 1863 •••
Valuation of Tenements 1863 Parish of Dromore Offices, Office = Sheds or Outbuildings Area = Acre, Rood and Perch Tullyglush Im...
  ...John Kelly Hannah Strong House & Garden 0--0--32 Johnston Hunter Commrs Of Education House & Garden 0--0--30 School House Exempt James...
  ...Samuel Kelly Same Same 0--1--20 James Martin Same House & Small Garden Joseph Knox Thomas Waring House, Offices & Land 19--3--0 James Martin...
62% Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:21:10 GMT http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com/html/dromore_f.htm

10. Aghaderg_1 - Valuation of Tenements 1863 •••
Parish of Aghaderg Valuation of Tenements 1863 Offices, Office = Sheds or Outbuildings Area = Acre, Rood and Perch...
  ...James Kelly Alex. J. R. Stewart House, Office & Garden 4--10--0 Patrick Burns Same Same 6--10--0 . . Water 1--2--30 John McKeveregan Same...
  ...Francis Kelly Arthur C. Innis House, Office & Land 2--3--19 . . . 2--3--30 Meenan Immediate Lessors Description of Tenements Area...
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Appreciate the chance to post my "most wanted" KELLY ancestor.  Searching for
Patrick KELLY, b. abt. 1820, Ireland, possibly Co. GalwayUS, abt. 1840 to
1850; settling somewhere in PA, possibly Blair, Centre, Huntingdon counties;
married Mary Ann DOLAN c. 1850 with two known children:  Patrick/Patsy, b. abt.
1851/52, PA county not known; and Mary Anna, b. abt. 1854/55 county not known.

Mary Ann DOLAN marries a second time to Richard HALL, c. 1856; their first
two children-sons were John, b. 1857 and Richard, b. 1859; baptized St.
Matthew's Catholic church, Tyrone Twp., Blair Co., PA. [as per Fr. Ledoux's volumes]. 
Mary Ann DOLAN KELLY and Richard HALL end up in Allegheny Co., where two
additional children-girls were born; both are buried in St. Mary's Catholic
cemetery, Lawrenceville, Allegheny Co., PA.

When did Patrick die and where is he buried?  When and where were he and Mary
Ann DOLAN married?  When and where were their two children, Patrick/Patsy and
Mary Anna born and baptized?

Marybeth C.
acmbjc@aol.com
 


Dear “Cousin”,


Following is a brief outline of a story describing earlier days of our Kelly family. I hope to go back further but that may take a few visits to Wexford, I hope so, anyway. I would also like to fill in any gaps, so any assistance will be very much appreciated. Also, if there are any inaccuracies please let me know. This is by no means meant to be the finished article.

When I was a kid, I occasionally thought about trying to find out about my ancestors. Eventually, at the age of 40 odd, I got round to it. I visited the records section of the Central Library in Liverpool in the early 1990’s with some little success. I found the marriage record of both pairs of grandparents and found it to be quite a buzz to see the actual signature in ink on the document, knowing they then went and had a celebration. It was strange to think of people I only ever knew as old, being young with all their lives ahead of them. Anyway, enough of that.

I thought that was it and didn’t intend to go back any further. I thought it would be impossible. I actually called in at the records office in Dublin while on a weekend visit a couple of years later with no success and lost interest. Until, that is, about 4 or 5 years ago when I found myself working in town with an hour to spare and visited the Library again. I was amazed with the information available. I have since made a lot of progress with other branches of my family tree. The internet has also made the detective work a lot easier and quite enjoyable.

I struggled with the Kellys for a while but I did find some Liverpool birth and marriage records in the Central Library and other official sources. I was then very fortunate to make contact with a gentleman in Wexford, via a website message board. From the limited information I could give him he found a number of records relating to our early Kellys. I then sent off to Dublin for the copies of the official records which are summarised below.

The earliest record I have is a copy of the official marriage record of my great grandparents, James Kelly and Catherine Culloton (normally Culleton or Colleton) which took place at the parish church of Taghmon, in Wexford, on 3rd August 1869. Both were from Clariestown (or Clearistown, or Cleristown). James’ father was named as John Kelly and Kate’s dad was Adam Culleton. The witnesses were James Hughes and Mary Culloton,

James and Catherine had at least 8 children. (I’m sure the first was named after me). He was, of course: -

Thomas, born 24th July 1870 at Skeeter Park, Wexford. I have no record of Thomas ever marrying but my correspondent in Wexford has told me that an elderly gentleman named Luke Murphy, now living in Skeeter Park, remembers a Tom Kelly living near him who died in the 1930’s aged 60 odd, so that would fit with our Tom’s birth date. He thinks he had two sons who both emigrated to England. Apparently this Tom appears in the 1901 census in Ireland, aged 25 (which is incorrect) and living with his mother, Catherine, who was a widow by this time. He also appears in the 1911 census, aged 42, which is correct by this time, unmarried and still living with mum.

Next came: -

2. James, born 25th Oct 1872 at Skeeter Park. Our James Kelly appears in the 1901 census in England, living at 151, Hopwood St. off Scotland Rd. (which is a significant address) and aged 29. He is working as a marine fireman and is living as a boarder with Patrick Woods and family. Patrick and his wife, Catherine, are both Irish and may be a friend, or relative, or other contact from Wexford.
James went back to Wexford to marry Kate Dunne in Taghmon, on 4th November 1901. The witnesses were John Carroll and Mary Kelly, probably James’ sister. James’ father, James, had died by this time.

James and Kate went on to have at least 2 children in Liverpool.

Mary, who was born 23rd November 1902. William Kelly (brother) and Sarah Kelly (sister-in-law, my grandmother) were witnesses. Mary went on to marry John Hegarty at St John’s, Kirkdale.
Catherine, who was born 20th February 1905. The address was given as 28, Blackfield St. Martin Kelly, possibly James’ younger brother, either visiting but maybe now living over here, and Mary Monaghan were witnesses. Catherine went on to marry James Steadman in St John’s, Kirkdale on 4th June 1927.

Next came,

3. John, born 13th Jan 1875 at Bargy Commons, Wexford. John does not appear in the 1901 census in Ireland and I suspect he may have died young.

Then my grandfather, the mighty

4. Patrick, who was born about Feb 1878. I have not (yet) found Patrick’s birth record despite quite a bit of effort, but I will find it. I am determined. He does not appear in the 1901 census in Ireland but there is a Patrick Kelly, aged 23, living in a lodging house in W. Toxteth in Liverpool in 1901. This may be our Pat but there were one or two about. Patrick married Sarah Flynn on 11th August 1901 in St Anthony’s Church, Scotland Rd. and gave his address as 151, Hopwood St., which is where James was living at the time of the 1901 census. Patrick was aged 24 and gave his occupation as a mariner so it is possible he was at sea at the time of the 1901 census. William Howard and Mary Rossiter were witnesses. Sarah Flynn was aged 19 and gave her address as 53, Ascot St.

Patrick and Sarah went on to have at least 11 children of whom only 4 survived to maturity. It is a very sad story. I was quite choked when I realised the extent of their loss. John, Michael and James (twins), Sarah, Veronica, Martin and Mary didn’t make it. The ones who did were: -

Rosanna, who married Clifford Stringer and had one daughter, Philomena. Phil married Kevin Campbell and had three sons.
Catherine never married but I understand she looked after an old relative in Ireland for a while.
Patrick married Madge Baldwin and had 2 sons.
Thomas married Rose Ann Deane and had 3 daughters Rose, Frances and Margaret and 1 son, me.


5. William, born about 1880. Again, I do not have William’s birth record but I will get it one day. William, aged 23, married Margaret Murphy, aged 22, daughter of Matthew Murphy, in Our Lady’s Eldon St. on 13th September 1903. William gave his address as 151, Gt Howard St., which is probably a mistake. It was almost certainly Hopwood St. but his accent might have confused the priest, or registrar. James Kelly of 28, Blackfield St, his brother, now married and moved on, and Eileen Ennis, were witnesses.
William and Margaret went on to have at least 4 children

James, who was born on 2nd July 1904 and married Christine Browne on 25th September 1925 in St Alphonsus’ church. The rest, as they say, is history.
Martin was born on 3rd February 1906. The address at the time was given as 22, Lemon St. James Murphy, probably Margaret’s brother, and Mary Hore were witnesses.
William, who was born about 1911 and married Margaret Holden. Let’s just say another legendary partnership. I have not been able to find the birth record of either William or Margaret (Holden).
Margaret was born on 28th November 1915 and, I understand, married William Ward.


6. Mary, who was born 17th June 1882 at Skeeter Park. Mary married Patrick Dooley and had one daughter Catherine over in Ireland, also known as Babs. Mary worked for a while at the famous White’s hotel in Wexford and later, she and Babs moved over here and lived with brother Patrick and Sarah in Bedford Road, Bootle.


7. Martin, who was born 29th August 1884 at Forth Commons. Martin appears in the 1901 census in Wexford, aged 16 but not in the 1911. He may have come over here by that time.


8. Michael, who was born 19th April 1888 at Skeeter Park. His big brother John, was the informant. Michael appears in the 1901 census in Wexford, aged 12 but does not appear in the 1911.


In the 1911 census, Catherine Kelly, nee Culleton, stated that she had had 8 children born alive but only 5 still living. Thomas is mentioned in the 1911 census in Ireland and I know that Patrick, William and Mary were still alive in England at that time. That means that any 3 of Michael, Martin, John and James had died by 1911.


I hope the above is of interest to you. Please let me have your comments and, of course, any additional information or corrections. Please, also, pass it on to any member of your family who may be interested.


Don -- What you have to say is very interesting. Your research is much
greater than mine.,  but there are some similarities.  There was a bishop of
Tuam, Oliver Kelly, he started St Jarleths college, which is still in
existance. We also seem to like water nearby. Man made lakes in Laoise where
a Kelly clan did reside. Would any of the following locations mean anything
to you---- Athleague, Kilkerrin, Fidaun, Ballygar, Stradbally. I have no
hard copy of any sort, but Iam working on my fathers story to us as
children. Are you a member of the Clan association in Ireland, and have you
been in touch with them.
Let me know,
JOE
( phone 00 353 (0) 404 40613)
 


Dear Don and Joe, There were indeed Kellys in that part of County Leitrim in ancient times. Most of the O'Kellys were O'Ceallaigh meaning grandson of a person called Ceallagh somtimes spelled Cellagh (sorry Don, never spelled Collagh). The Leitrim Kellys were different than most of the other 14 septs who had independent origins in that they were Mac Ceallaigh (in English McKelly) just like the Kellys from the Isle of Man, who were also McKellys. These McKellys dropped the Mac meaning son of, a long time ago. It is interesting when I went through more than half a million Kellys that entered New York from 1845-1851, I found only one Mc Kelly.   In the post Cromwellian times various Kellys were transplanted into Connaught from the other provinces and as a result it is sometimes difficult to if a Kelly found was an indigenous Kelly or an import from Wicklow (the Kellys of Hy-Maile  sometimes called Hy-Cuallan who lived near Bray (Br Cuallainn) of the Kellys of Meath or Kildare (O'Kelly of Breagh), who were once one of the four tribes of Tara the seat of the High Kings of Ireland.Most of the Kellys in the Tuam area were O'Kellys of Hy-Many (West Galway and South Roscommon), where the English writ did not run until after the Battle of Aughrim in 1691 which was their final stand as a significant force.After that many wet to Europe where many of them distinguished themselves such as Field Marshal Count William O'Kelly in the Aurtro-Hungarian army.     Don there were a few O'Kelly Archbishops of Tuam Maurice O'Kelly 1394 to 1407. Thomas O'Kelly 1438 to 1441 and in more recent times Oliver Kelly in the early 19th century. Maurice had four sons one Thomas became Bishop of Clonfert. He also had four sons. This was not allowed but was tolerated. No Kelly ever became Archbishop of Dublin. Fiacra O'Ceallaigh is at present one of the auxilary bishops od Dublin.       The various families mentioed are all Connaught names. Brian and Colla and to a lesser extent Joseph and James are common Kelly names. Oscar is rare in the Kellys the other names Dillard and Hyram are only found in Kellys in the US.      Would like to get more details from the old Bibles and also will translate the old Gaelic.          All the best Joe

Don,

Briefly, the 'firbolgs' seem to have been more or less the ruling families
of Ireland - or the remnants of them - prior to the rise of the Ui Neill and
Eoganachta, and at an earlier time (possibly) also the Ulaid in Ulster. In
this they can *maybe* be identified with the Erainn, though they may equally
have been a parallel group of tribes. In any event, they suffered the same
fate as the Erainn and faded into obscurity in the face of the dynasties
that dominated the early medieval period. As such, they are primarily to be
seen as peoples of some power or influence in the later iron age, say
c.100-400 AD. Few of them remained into the historical period with
sufficient power to gain mention in the annals where the passage time saw
them tend to try (and often succeed) in fabricating spurious links to
various ascendant tribes or families such as the multiple Ui Neill septs
(esp. of the southern Ui Neill in the midlands and north Leinster), and the
Eoganachta in Munster. As they were not of the new power families they are
little mentioned and what we know of them is limited often to no more than
slurs in the annals - comments that a certain people were firbolg for
example as a way to explain why they lost a battle, or as a way to sneer at
them on behalf of some ascendant dynasty, putting them in their place
basically.

For those who would not or (more likely) could not manage to build a fake
link to some powerful family, I guess there was a certain bitter pride in
their past glory, mixed with a bit of 'rue our passing', and 'someday,
someday...' As such it is not inconcievable that some group identified
either by themselves or by others (the Irish have horribly long memories for
such matters) as firbolg were beaten in battles during the 10th or 12th or
later centuries.

It is *CRITICAL* though to always remember that such designations are valid
only in the periods in which they were in current use. Associations with any
sort of dubious ancient groupings 500 or 700 years on is silly, plain and
simple. It would serve me not at all to see my own small piece of Irish
mountainside as part of the lands of the Carbraige, from whom I am
descended... or of the Deisi Muman, within the boundaries of whose ancient
realm this land lies. Similarly it is pointless referring to late medieval
people by designations that applied during the late iron age, or at best
during the earliest part of the medieval... certainly no later anyway than
c.500AD, and I'd personally be dubious of even that.

As to those ancient memories... There are people in a part of Munster who
are remembered as 'the Ulstermen'. This title comes from their family names
which originate with a group (Corcu Oche) who were supposed to have arrived
here from the shores of Lough Neagh as a result of its flooding over one and
a half millenia ago. Calling them Ulstermen is nuts in one sense, but is
also sort of remarkable considering the respect for genealogy it suggests.
My guess is that your 13th century forbolgs were known by that name either
a) because they lost and were being slagged off for their non-noble
heritage, or b) the battle(s) in question occurred much, much earlier (say
8th cent. or earlier) and the 'Kelly' side in this case were not Kellys but
their predecessors, whose military successes were remembered as a part of
the proud history of the Kellys.

Without access to the original reference, the title of the work from which
it came, some dating info and a bit more research its really impossible to
go any further than the suggestions above. One thing is for sure, though:
its nonsensical calling anyone firbolg after, to push the dates as far
forward as possible (and probably way further than is reasonable) c.700AD.
I'd prefer to say you can not really talk of firbolg after c.550AD or
thereabouts, and even then it is really just a group name remembered from
the past of 100-200 and more years previous to that.

Stiof

 


Don --if not related by blood we are related by clan.Contact Dr.Joe, you
will find him very helpful, his address is ( joekellyhome@eircom.net ) the
other address  has a slight error in it.
Rgds
JOE

 From: "Don Kelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net
 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:45:18 -0800
 To: "Joe Kelly" <cavkelly@indigo.ie
 Cc: <_joekellyhome@eircom.net, <kellyshellfish@eircom.net
 Subject: Re: Hard copy
 
 Thank you Joe,
 
 I have little hope that hard copy records from the mists of time will
 document our relationship, other than in name only, but "hope springs
 eternal."
 
 I have heard of Doctor Joe, but have no direct contact with him, except
 indirectly through Kelly families living in Australia or New Zealand.
 
 It seems nearly certain that there is a focal point connection in
 Connaught somewhere; perhaps all together as a Clan, by extrapolation,
 we will find it.
 
 I appreciate your initiating this contact, and for following up on laser
 thin leads.
 
 Donald O'Collaugh Kelly
 National Coordinator
 Ireland Genealogy Projects, IGP TM
 URL= http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com
 =======================================
 
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Joe Kelly" <cavkelly@indigo.ie
 To: "Don Kelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:17 PM
 Subject: Hard copy
 
 
 Don -- I have taken the liberty of forwarding to Dr. Joe Kelly your
 "E" with
 ref to your bibles dated 1692 and 1701. These dates will have
 significance.
 Dr Joe is the Clan Ullamh. He is at ( _joekellyhome@eircom.net ). I
 can let
 you have phone no's if you want. also some "E' addresses and webs.
 Info on
 Clan gathering 2003 from Bernadette.
 Bernadette Kelly <kellyshellfish@eircom.net
 OKelly Net <info@okelly.net
 www.galway.net/pages/kelly
 www.kellyclan.org
 Slan
 JOE KE
 
 


Greetings,

 I am Donald O'Collaigh Kelly and I was referred by Ted Meehan after a
 disagreement arose on a couple of our rootsweb mailing lists about
 anthology of Ireland, did the Firbolgs just die out, were they
 slaughtered completely, or were they absorbed into Irish and/or
 Anglo-Norman bloodlines.

 My family history for Kelly, O'Kelly, O'Collaugh/O'Collaigh says that
 the family had trouble, perhaps even battles, with Firbolgs somewhere in
 Connaught.

 Some listers believe Firbolg died out a long time ago, but if Firbolg
 had trouble with O'Kelly under that sirname, that is not a terribly long
 time ago, and probably since 1200 AD.

 Then a puzzling thing I cannot find now is a map I saw a couple of years
 ago that showed Firbolg as a tribal identity in at about central
 Ireland, may have been Roscommon. If the maker and labeler of that map
 was correct, Firbolg had a tribal identity less than five hundred years
 ago, and not in ancient times as some scholars indicate.

 Do you have any insight into this question?

 Don

 


Hi!

Could someone please check the 1901 and 1911 Dublin City Directory for
Samuel O'Kelly/O'Ceallaigh? The family was apparently living across the
street from St. Joseph's Catholic Church which is located on Berkeley Road.
Samuel was a master bootmaker at a shop on Berkeley Road. This was a large
family with 10 children, 3 of whom died at a young age. Hoping to confirm
the names of all of the children, particularly those who died young. Many
thanks!

Joni Leffler
 


Hi Lorraine,

I just recently received Michael KELLY's death certificate which lists 735
Manhattan Avenue, Brooklyn, Kings, New York as the place that he died.

  It says on the death certificate that his parents were John KELLY and
Bridget (KANE) KELLY.

Sharon Kreyer
In a message dated 5/22/2004 4:15:47 PM Central Standard Time,
timlorr@warwick.net writes:
Hi, who was Michael's parents, did he come from Ballinderry, Galway? Looking
for my g.father's brother Michael Kelly.

Lorraine
-----Original Message-----
From: Smkreyer@aol.com [mailto:Smkreyer@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:31 PM
To: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Bklyn] Need a Death Certificate lookup for Catherine (McKEEGAN)
KELLY

Hi,

  I need a Death Certificate lookup for Catherine (McKEEGAN) KELLY. She is
my
great grandmother on my maternal side.

  This is the only information that I have on her:

  Catherine (McKEEGAN) KELLY
  Born in 1898, died on November 9, 1950 and is buried in Calvary Cemetery
with her husband Michael KELLY and daughter Loretta KELLY.
  I believe that her father's name was Dennis McKEEGAN, her stepfather's
name
was Thomas MURPHY and her mother was Sarah McDONALD. She might have been
living at 735 Manhattan Avenue which is where her husband Michael KELLY died
in
1949.

  Any help on this would be greatly appreciated as I'm trying to break down
a
very large brick wall in this family.

  P.S. I would like to thank Mary Zatorski for her help in getting a death
certificate for my great grandfater Michael KELLY which is Catherine
(McKEEGAN)
KELLY's husband. I did finally receive it after waiting patiently for a few
months.

Thank You,
Sharon Kreyer


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Don --if not related by blood we are related by clan.Contact Dr.Joe, you
will find him very helpful, his address is ( joekellyhome@eircom.net ) the
other address  has a slight error in it.
Rgds
JOE

 From: "Don Kelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net
 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:45:18 -0800
 To: "Joe Kelly" <cavkelly@indigo.ie
 Cc: <_joekellyhome@eircom.net, <kellyshellfish@eircom.net
 Subject: Re: Hard copy
 
 Thank you Joe,
 
 I have little hope that hard copy records from the mists of time will
 document our relationship, other than in name only, but "hope springs
 eternal."
 
 I have heard of Doctor Joe, but have no direct contact with him, except
 indirectly through Kelly families living in Australia or New Zealand.
 
 It seems nearly certain that there is a focal point connection in
 Connaught somewhere; perhaps all together as a Clan, by extrapolation,
 we will find it.
 
 I appreciate your initiating this contact, and for following up on laser
 thin leads.
 
 Donald O'Collaugh Kelly
 National Coordinator
 Ireland Genealogy Projects, IGP TM
 URL= http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com
 =======================================
 
  From: "Joe Kelly" <cavkelly@indigo.ie
 To: "Don Kelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:17 PM
 Subject: Hard copy
 
 
 Don -- I have taken the liberty of forwarding to Dr. Joe Kelly your  "E" with
 ref to your bibles dated 1692 and 1701. These dates will have significance.
 Dr Joe is the Clan Ullamh. He is at ( _joekellyhome@eircom.net ). I  can let
 you have phone no's if you want. also some "E' addresses and webs.  Info on Clan gathering 2003 from Bernadette. Bernadette Kelly <kellyshellfish@eircom.net
 OKelly Net <info@okelly.net
 www.galway.net/pages/kelly
 www.kellyclan.org
 Slan
 JOE KE
 


Don,

Briefly, the 'firbolgs' seem to have been more or less the ruling families
of Ireland - or the remnants of them - prior to the rise of the Ui Neill and
Eoganachta, and at an earlier time (possibly) also the Ulaid in Ulster. In
this they can *maybe* be identified with the Erainn, though they may equally
have been a parallel group of tribes. In any event, they suffered the same
fate as the Erainn and faded into obscurity in the face of the dynasties
that dominated the early medieval period. As such, they are primarily to be
seen as peoples of some power or influence in the later iron age, say
c.100-400 AD. Few of them remained into the historical period with
sufficient power to gain mention in the annals where the passage time saw
them tend to try (and often succeed) in fabricating spurious links to
various ascendant tribes or families such as the multiple Ui Neill septs
(esp. of the southern Ui Neill in the midlands and north Leinster), and the
Eoganachta in Munster. As they were not of the new power families they are
little mentioned and what we know of them is limited often to no more than
slurs in the annals - comments that a certain people were firbolg for
example as a way to explain why they lost a battle, or as a way to sneer at
them on behalf of some ascendant dynasty, putting them in their place
basically.

For those who would not or (more likely) could not manage to build a fake
link to some powerful family, I guess there was a certain bitter pride in
their past glory, mixed with a bit of 'rue our passing', and 'someday,
someday...' As such it is not inconcievable that some group identified
either by themselves or by others (the Irish have horribly long memories for
such matters) as firbolg were beaten in battles during the 10th or 12th or
later centuries.

It is *CRITICAL* though to always remember that such designations are valid
only in the periods in which they were in current use. Associations with any
sort of dubious ancient groupings 500 or 700 years on is silly, plain and
simple. It would serve me not at all to see my own small piece of Irish
mountainside as part of the lands of the Carbraige, from whom I am
descended... or of the Deisi Muman, within the boundaries of whose ancient
realm this land lies. Similarly it is pointless referring to late medieval
people by designations that applied during the late iron age, or at best
during the earliest part of the medieval... certainly no later anyway than
c.500AD, and I'd personally be dubious of even that.

As to those ancient memories... There are people in a part of Munster who
are remembered as 'the Ulstermen'. This title comes from their family names
which originate with a group (Corcu Oche) who were supposed to have arrived
here from the shores of Lough Neagh as a result of its flooding over one and
a half millenia ago. Calling them Ulstermen is nuts in one sense, but is
also sort of remarkable considering the respect for genealogy it suggests.
My guess is that your 13th century forbolgs were known by that name either
a) because they lost and were being slagged off for their non-noble
heritage, or b) the battle(s) in question occurred much, much earlier (say
8th cent. or earlier) and the 'Kelly' side in this case were not Kellys but
their predecessors, whose military successes were remembered as a part of
the proud history of the Kellys.

Without access to the original reference, the title of the work from which
it came, some dating info and a bit more research its really impossible to
go any further than the suggestions above. One thing is for sure, though:
its nonsensical calling anyone firbolg after, to push the dates as far
forward as possible (and probably way further than is reasonable) c.700AD.
I'd prefer to say you can not really talk of firbolg after c.550AD or
thereabouts, and even then it is really just a group name remembered from
the past of 100-200 and more years previous to that.

Stiof


  From: Don Kelly [mailto:donkelly@grovenet.net]
 Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 10:35 PM
 To: maqqi@indigo.ie
 Subject: Ireland History


 Greetings,

 I am Donald O'Collaigh Kelly and I was referred by Ted Meehan after a
 disagreement arose on a couple of our rootsweb mailing lists about
 anthology of Ireland, did the Firbolgs just die out, were they
 slaughtered completely, or were they absorbed into Irish and/or
 Anglo-Norman bloodlines.

 My family history for Kelly, O'Kelly, O'Collaugh/O'Collaigh says that
 the family had trouble, perhaps even battles, with Firbolgs somewhere in
 Connaught.

 Some listers believe Firbolg died out a long time ago, but if Firbolg
 had trouble with O'Kelly under that sirname, that is not a terribly long
 time ago, and probably since 1200 AD.

 Then a puzzling thing I cannot find now is a map I saw a couple of years
 ago that showed Firbolg as a tribal identity in at about central
 Ireland, may have been Roscommon. If the maker and labeler of that map
 was correct, Firbolg had a tribal identity less than five hundred years
 ago, and not in ancient times as some scholars indicate.

 Do you have any insight into this question?

 Don
 


Dear Geoff and other Co. Clare listers;
 
I've noticed with interest your Andrew Kelly postings and wonder if there might be a connection to the Kelly family I have in my line.  Anxious to hear from you!
 
Judith Mason
Chicago, IL
 
Patrick Kelly & Johanna Mason m. possibly Co. Clare c. 1841; possibly Shannakyle, Parteen.  Both b. c. 1820.
 
Children all b. Shannakyle, Parteen, Co. Clare:
John         b. 6/14/1842
Michael    b. 10/25/1844
Margaret   b.  1/24/1848
Marcus     b.  3/16/1849
Patrick     b.  9/7/1853
Bridget     b.  5/16/1857
 
Godparent surnames:
Killeen, Minihan, Costelloe, Malone, Ryan, Mungovan, Boland

Geoff Fletcher <fletch@bigpond.net.au wrote:
When Andrew Kelly (b1845) was married in Australia he said that he was from Killaloe. His parents were Andrew Kelly and Margaret Collins. The records we have found of brothers and sisters show that they come from Coolbawn, Furoor, County Clare. I know that there is a town and quite possibly a Parish of Killaloe. I have also found the township of Furoor but I can't find Coolbawn or a link between the references. I would appreciate any assistance.

Geoff Fletcher
Brisbane
Australia


Dear Don and Joe, 

There were indeed Kellys in that part of County Leitrim in ancient times. Most of the O'Kellys were O'Ceallaigh meaning grandson of a person called Ceallagh somtimes spelled Cellagh (sorry Don, never spelled Collagh).

The Leitrim Kellys were different than most of the other 14 septs who had independent origins in that they were Mac Ceallaigh (in English McKelly) just like the Kellys from the Isle of Man, who were also McKellys.

These McKellys dropped the Mac meaning son of, a long time ago. It is interesting when I went through more than half a million Kellys that entered New York from 1845-1851, I found only one Mc Kelly. 

In the post Cromwellian times various Kellys were transplanted into Connaught from the other provinces and as a result it is sometimes difficult to if a Kelly found was an indigenous Kelly or an import from Wicklow (the Kellys of Hy-Maile  sometimes called Hy-Cuallan who lived near Bray (Br Cuallainn) of the Kellys of Meath or Kildare (O'Kelly of Breagh), who were once one of the four tribes of Tara the seat of the High Kings of Ireland.

Most of the Kellys in the Tuam area were O'Kellys of Hy-Many (West Galway and South Roscommon), where the English writ did not run until after the Battle of Aughrim in 1691 which was their final stand as a significant force.

After that many wet to Europe where many of them distinguished themselves such as Field Marshal Count William O'Kelly in the Aurtro-Hungarian army.  

Don there were a few O'Kelly Archbishops of Tuam Maurice O'Kelly 1394 to 1407. Thomas O'Kelly 1438 to 1441 and in more recent times Oliver Kelly in the early 19th century. Maurice had four sons one Thomas became Bishop of Clonfert. He also had four sons. This was not allowed but was tolerated. No Kelly ever became Archbishop of Dublin. Fiacra O'Ceallaigh is at present one of the auxilary bishops od Dublin.      

The various families mentioed are all Connaught names. Brian and Colla and to a lesser extent Joseph and James are common Kelly names. Oscar is rare in the Kellys the other names Dillard and Hyram are only found in Kellys in the US.     

Would like to get more details from the old Bibles and also will translate the old Gaelic.          All the best Joe


  From: "Joe Kelly" <cavkelly@indigo.ie To: <donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 3:18 AM Subject: Failte again
  Don -- What you have to say is very interesting. Your research is much
 greater than mine.,  but there are some similarities.  There was a bishop of
 Tuam, Oliver Kelly, he started St Jarleths college, which is still in
 existance. We also seem to like water nearby. Man made lakes in Laoise where
 a Kelly clan did reside. Would any of the following locations mean anything
 to you---- Athleague, Kilkerrin, Fidaun, Ballygar, Stradbally. I have no
 hard copy of any sort, but Iam working on my fathers story to us as
 children. Are you a member of the Clan association in Ireland, and have you
 been in touch with them.
 Let me know,
 JOE
 ( phone 00 353 (0) 404 40613)
 

 


From: John Kelly
To: donkelly@grovenet.net
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:28 PM
Subject: Most Wanted Kelly

Hi  

I am trying to trace my Kelly family to place of origin in Ireland. My gg grandfather Anthony Kelly is on the 1851 census for Sheffield England listed as born in Ireland his age was 28 which would make his birth approx1823. I have a copy of his marriage certificate to Bridget Connor/Marron in 1853 which lists his father as Nicholas Kelly. My guess is he came to England during the famine. Any help would be appreciated.

 John Kelly

Blue Mountains, NSW

Australia


My grandfather Edward T Kelly was born May 20, 1886 in Ireland ( believe
Killkenny) His fathers name was James Kelly, mother Elizabeth Carberry ( SS
application) It is believed he came to the US in 1907 sailing from Queenstown,
arriving in New York. ( researched from Ellis Island) The manifest reads that his
place of residence was Ballaghaderin,Ireland.
Family believe  he was a twin and came from a large familyof 13 or 14 and he
was the youngest. Some family members believe he was younger when he came to
the US 16 or 17
But this is the only Edward Kelly that I found on the Ellis Island list that
came close to his birth date   Here it says he is 21 arriving May 5th 1907. He
was born May 20 1886. While in the US he married 2 times dates unknown First
wife Alice ?  Second wife Mary O'Conner both of Irish.  Had 5 children
Grellan,Brendan, Kevin, Maureen,and  Margaret with Mary.
He died on the 29th of June 1965 in Staten Island, New York His residence at
the time was in Vineland New Jersey.  The Obit in the Vineland Times Journal
read he had 28 grandchildren and 2 Great grand children at the time of his
death.  I am his son Kevin's oldest daughter Alice.  This is the only info I have
to search out my ansestery's I never new any of my grandfathers family only my
Dads. Edward traveled a few times to Ireland if I remember right.  One time I
know for sure was in 1958 as I have letters to my Aunt from him in Ireland. 
In one letter he said he had taken a picture of the house he was born in in
Kilkenny.  I can not find him on any US census.  I know he lived in New York,
and New Jersey.I also believe  our name was O 'Kelly in Ireland ( O'Ceallaigh)
Thanks for any help you can give me.    Alice (Kelly)Gavin
 


From: George Kelly
To: Kelly-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject: Raymond Boone Kelly

Subject: Raymond Boone Kelly


I saw in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram an obit for a very distinguished Raymond Boone Kelly, Jr. son of Katherine B. and Raymond B. Kelly, and father of Raymond Boone Kelly, III. Looked like family, but when I got home, I do not have a Raymond Kelly in my files. I do have a Henry Boone Kelly and a Harry Boone Kelly.

  Raymond B. Jr. was born in Dallas in 1922, raised in Fort Worth, graduated from Princeton in 1943 with B.S. in engineering, commissioned ensign USN until 1946, worked in oil industry, founded several companies, longest serving mayor of Westover Hills, TX from 1974-1988. Good man.

  My Kelly's came from Ireland to S.C, to VA, back to VA, then in the 1800's to Perry County, TN.  Does anyone know about this late Raymond Boone Kelly ?

 


UI MAINE, PROVINCE CONNAUGHT IRELAND:

Hi Ted, I'll check our last exchange, and subsequent updates, and get back to you if I find any suggestions of connections. Mine were there since the 4th century, so there were many associations along the way.   Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Meehan
To: Donkelly
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Ui Maine
Don, a chara,             When I first began searching out reports of my own ancestors, one of the things I did was to go through the Annals of the Four Masters looking for potential variants of the name. Some of those which I had found - and which turned out to be related - were O'Miadhachain, O'Mithighin, and O'Meighan. Some other obvious ones like O'Meehin, for example, also made my list.            Along with these, I had included Ui Maine, initially. Then, perhaps after hearing from you, I learned that the Ui Maine were a branch of the Kellys, and so I dismissed further reports using this surname, as unrelated. However, recently, another Meehan researcher has come across some information which seems to link our line with the O'Kellys, and specifically it mentions those of us whose name had once been spelled O'Mithighin.             I attach the following report from my fellow Meehan researcher, in the hope that it might provoke a response from you, that will help us find some starting points to track down this line.   Go raibh maith agat! Ted Meehan   Ted,
I followed up on the association between the Abbey in Clontuskeret and the Meehans. There was a fairly prominent branch of the Meehans in this area sometime between the 8th and the 12th century. The abbey at Clontuskeret did fall into the hands of the Meehans during this period. They article stated that the "Priory fell into the lay control and was owned by a family of Mithighin".
 This area of South Galway was in control of the O,Kellys of the UI Maine. According to one article the inauguration of the chief of the O'Kelly,s was done by the family of the Mithighin (Meehins) (sic) and others at Clontuskeret. If the Meehans controlled the Monastery and were involved in the inauguration of the Chief of the O, Kellys there maybe some merit in the theory they were Corabs of Clontuskert for a time. The O'Kelly's held their rank as princes of Ui-Maine down to the reign of Queen Elizabeth I.. The abbey is associated with St Baedan. I will follow it up and keep you informed.

Charlie



Don, a chara,   Thank you for your message. As this is quite a big subject, I suggest you save the following URL, then click on "C" to find text on Communism and then click on "F" to find text on Freemasonry. This is the Catholic Encylopaedia website. You should find it of help for matters relating to the Catholic Church and Catholic Teaching.   http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/   I visited the Kelly site; very interesting - old Irish - difficult to read.- you can be proud of your Irish ancestors.   John
 

To: John Caughey

Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Ireland's National Language

Do you have any idea whatsoever why the Pope would lump Communists and
Masons into one bag, and forbid any Catholic from joining either group?
I have it on good authority that Catholics were members of the Lodge of
which great grandfather was leader. They worked together to benefit
humanity, care for the poor, in every way reflecting the Catholic view
of fellow man.

Don Kelly

 


DUBLIN IRELAND:

Hi, Anthony,

Could please you add my query and put it on the radio?  (Edit as necessary).

I am searching DUNNE and KELLY lines in Dublin.  My grandfather Timothy Joseph Dunne was born in Palmerstown, So. Dublin in Feb. 1886 or 1887 to Francis (Frank) Dunne (died in Dublin in 1927) and Julia Kelly.  Timothy was brother to Mary, Annie, Joseph, John, and another boy, all born in Dublin(?).  Tim served in the British Merchant Marine from 1915 to 1920.  He immigrated to the US in the early 1920's, settling in New York City.  Tim married Bridget (Bessie) Cunnion (born in County Leitrim 1897) in 1926 in NYC.  Tim and Bessie had two sons Francis (Frank, my dad) and John.  Tim died in 1961 as a result of an auto accident in NYC.

As far as I know, Tim's parents and siblings remain in Dublin.  His sister Mary married a man named Kearns and they had three children, Shelia, Maureen, and Willie.  We are in touch with Mary's decendents, but would love to hear from any members of the Francis Dunne/Julia Kelly family.

Thanks a lot,
Nancy Dunne


ROSCOMMON:

Hi Jeanine-

Yes, the 'elusive' Kellys-I have a few myself, haven't got a grasp on them
yet, I'm afraid, but here goes! Maybe I'll have a bit of the Irish luck with
yours, and find mine as well!! I don't know how accurate your birth year is
for John, but as many records, (ie) census, births and baptisms, ship
records are nortoriously wrong--here is what I found--

John Kelly births/Baptisms, to a John and Mary Kelly--


KELLY, Joannem Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Dec 1856 Recorded in: Ardcarn and tuamna, Roscommon,
Ireland
Collection: Roman Catholic
Father: Joannis KELLY
Mother: Mariae NANGLE
Source: FHL Film 989746 Dates: 1843 - 1861

KELLY, Joannes Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 31 Mar 1861 Recorded in: Boyle, Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Roman Catholic
Father: Joannis KELLY
Mother: Mariae BEIRNE
Source: FHL Film 989743 Dates: 1816 - 1864

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1867 Birthplace: 7, Athlone, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Maria HUGHES
Source: FHL Film 101147 Dates: 1867 - 1868

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 Sep 1867 Birthplace: 371, Strokestown, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary KELLY
Source: FHL Film 101157 Dates: 1867 - 1868

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 Sep 1867 Birthplace: 160, Frenchpark, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary GILERIM
Source: FHL Film 101153 Dates: 1867 - 1868

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1869 Birthplace: 156, Castlerea, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary SILK
Source: FHL Film 101193 Dates: 1869 - 1870

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1870 Birthplace: 30, Creagh, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary RYAN
Source: FHL Film 101213 Dates: 1870 - 1871

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1870 Birthplace: 30, Creagh, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary RYAN
Source: FHL Film 101213 Dates: 1870 - 1871


Heres a huge family with John and Mary as parents--

KELLY, Patritium Chr 1841 Irel Rosc Kilaki
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BEIRNE
KELLY, Joannem Chr 1844 Irel Rosc Kilaki
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BEIRNE
KELLY, Joannem Chr 1846 Irel Rosc Kilaki
Fa: Johannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BEIRN
KELLY, Bridget Chr 1859 Irel Rosc Boyle
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Joannes Chr 1861 Irel Rosc Boyle
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BEIRNE
KELLY, Bernard Bir 1868 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Thomas Bir 1870 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Marie BEIRNE
KELLY, John Bir 1872 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Patrick Bir 1872 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary BEIRNE
KELLY, Thomas Bir 1873 Irel Rosc Ardatu
Fa: Johannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BERNE
KELLY, Bridget Bir 1874 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary BEIRNE
KELLY, Edvardus Bir 1874 Irel Rosc Ardatu
Fa: Joannis KELLY

 

Mo: Mariae BERNE

Another one--

KELLY, Maria Chr 1864 Irel Rosc AthaDr
Fa: Johannis KELLY
Mo: Maria HUGHES
KELLY, John Bir 1867 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria HUGHES
KELLY, James Bir 1869 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary HUGHES
KELLY, Patrick Bir 1869 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary HUGHES

And another--

KELLY, Catherine Chr 1847 Irel Rosc AthaDr
Fa: Johannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae KELLY
KELLY, Mariam Chr 1862 Irel Rosc Rosaki
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae KELLY
KELLY, John Bir 1867 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary KELLY

Another--

KELLY, Bridget Bir 1867 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary SILK
KELLY, John Bir 1869 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary SILK
KELLY, Michael Bir 1870 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary SILK

more--

KELLY, Bridget Chr 1859 Irel Rosc Boyle
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Joannes Chr 1861 Irel Rosc Boyle
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BEIRNE
KELLY, Bernard Bir 1868 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Thomas Bir 1870 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Marie BEIRNE
KELLY, John Bir 1872 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Patrick Bir 1872 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary BEIRNE
KELLY, Thomas Bir 1873 Irel Rosc Ardatu
Fa: Johannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BERNE
KELLY, Bridget Bir 1874 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary BEIRNE
KELLY, Edvardus Bir 1874 Irel Rosc Ardatu
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BERNE

More-

KELLY, Bridget Bir 1867 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary GARVIN
KELLY, Catherine Bir 1870 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary GARVIN
KELLY, Michael Bir 1872 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary GARVIN

only Luke--

KELLY, Luke Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Dec 1841 Recorded in: Strokestown, Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Roman Catholic
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary DONOHER
Source: FHL Film 989745 Dates: 1830 - 1848

Hope these help!!  Janet


From: "Jay Kubik" jayghkub@coastalnet.com
To: janet_sandberg@hotmail.com
Subject: Kelly
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:40:25 -0400

Hi Janet -
Maybe the 3rd time will be the charm.  I am also searching for info on John
and Mary Kelly of County Roscommon.  One son, John Kelly, Jr. was born c.
1864.  Other children of John and Mary were:  Luke Kelly, Michael Kelly and
Catherine Kelly.  This was an RC family.  John Kelly, Jr.'s obit says the
family came to Pascoag, RI when he was a young boy.  I am searching for a
townland for this family or for a birth/baptismal record.  Thanks so much
for your kindness to those of us on the list.
Jeannine Garrahan
Researching:  Burns, Burke, Reynolds, Dunagin, Kelly, Garrahan of County
Roscommon

FREEMASONRY:

Don, a chara,   Thank you for your message. As this is quite a big subject, I suggest you save the following URL, then click on "C" to find text on Communism and then click on "F" to find text on Freemasonry. This is the Catholic Encylopaedia website. You should find it of help for matters relating to the Catholic Church and Catholic Teaching.   http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/   I visited the Kelly site; very interesting - old Irish - difficult to read.- you can be proud of your Irish ancestors.   John ----- Original Message -----

From: Don Kelly
To: John Caughey
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Ireland's National Language

Do you have any idea whatsoever why the Pope would lump Communists and
Masons into one bag, and forbid any Catholic from joining either group?
I have it on good authority that Catholics were members of the Lodge of
which great grandfather was leader. They worked together to benefit
humanity, care for the poor, in every way reflecting the Catholic view
of fellow man.

Don Kelly

ROSCOMMON: 

Hi Jeanine-

Yes, the 'elusive' Kellys-I have a few myself, haven't got a grasp on them
yet, I'm afraid, but here goes! Maybe I'll have a bit of the Irish luck with
yours, and find mine as well!! I don't know how accurate your birth year is
for John, but as many records, (ie) census, births and baptisms, ship
records are nortoriously wrong--here is what I found--

John Kelly births/Baptisms, to a John and Mary Kelly--

KELLY, Joannem Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Dec 1856 Recorded in: Ardcarn and tuamna, Roscommon,
Ireland
Collection: Roman Catholic
Father: Joannis KELLY
Mother: Mariae NANGLE
Source: FHL Film 989746 Dates: 1843 - 1861

KELLY, Joannes Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 31 Mar 1861 Recorded in: Boyle, Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Roman Catholic
Father: Joannis KELLY
Mother: Mariae BEIRNE
Source: FHL Film 989743 Dates: 1816 - 1864


KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1867 Birthplace: 7, Athlone, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Maria HUGHES
Source: FHL Film 101147 Dates: 1867 - 1868

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 Sep 1867 Birthplace: 371, Strokestown, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary KELLY
Source: FHL Film 101157 Dates: 1867 - 1868

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 Sep 1867 Birthplace: 160, Frenchpark, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary GILERIM
Source: FHL Film 101153 Dates: 1867 - 1868

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1869 Birthplace: 156, Castlerea, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary SILK
Source: FHL Film 101193 Dates: 1869 - 1870

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1870 Birthplace: 30, Creagh, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary RYAN
Source: FHL Film 101213 Dates: 1870 - 1871

KELLY, John Birth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1870 Birthplace: 30, Creagh, Ros, Ire
Recorded in: Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Civil Registration
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary RYAN
Source: FHL Film 101213 Dates: 1870 - 1871

Heres a huge family with John and Mary as parents--

KELLY, Patritium Chr 1841 Irel Rosc Kilaki
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BEIRNE
KELLY, Joannem Chr 1844 Irel Rosc Kilaki
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BEIRNE
KELLY, Joannem Chr 1846 Irel Rosc Kilaki
Fa: Johannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BEIRN
KELLY, Bridget Chr 1859 Irel Rosc Boyle
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Joannes Chr 1861 Irel Rosc Boyle
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BEIRNE
KELLY, Bernard Bir 1868 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Thomas Bir 1870 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Marie BEIRNE
KELLY, John Bir 1872 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Patrick Bir 1872 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary BEIRNE
KELLY, Thomas Bir 1873 Irel Rosc Ardatu
Fa: Johannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BERNE
KELLY, Bridget Bir 1874 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary BEIRNE
KELLY, Edvardus Bir 1874 Irel Rosc Ardatu
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BERNE

Another one--

KELLY, Maria Chr 1864 Irel Rosc AthaDr
Fa: Johannis KELLY
Mo: Maria HUGHES
KELLY, John Bir 1867 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria HUGHES
KELLY, James Bir 1869 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary HUGHES
KELLY, Patrick Bir 1869 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary HUGHES

And another--

KELLY, Catherine Chr 1847 Irel Rosc AthaDr
Fa: Johannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae KELLY
KELLY, Mariam Chr 1862 Irel Rosc Rosaki
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae KELLY
KELLY, John Bir 1867 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary KELLY

Another--

KELLY, Bridget Bir 1867 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary SILK
KELLY, John Bir 1869 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary SILK
KELLY, Michael Bir 1870 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary SILK

more--

KELLY, Bridget Chr 1859 Irel Rosc Boyle
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Joannes Chr 1861 Irel Rosc Boyle
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BEIRNE
KELLY, Bernard Bir 1868 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Thomas Bir 1870 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Marie BEIRNE
KELLY, John Bir 1872 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Maria BEIRNE
KELLY, Patrick Bir 1872 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary BEIRNE
KELLY, Thomas Bir 1873 Irel Rosc Ardatu
Fa: Johannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BERNE
KELLY, Bridget Bir 1874 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary BEIRNE
KELLY, Edvardus Bir 1874 Irel Rosc Ardatu
Fa: Joannis KELLY
Mo: Mariae BERNE

More-

KELLY, Bridget Bir 1867 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary GARVIN
KELLY, Catherine Bir 1870 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary GARVIN
KELLY, Michael Bir 1872 Irel Rosc
Fa: John KELLY
Mo: Mary GARVIN

only Luke--

KELLY, Luke Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Dec 1841 Recorded in: Strokestown, Roscommon, Ireland
Collection: Roman Catholic
Father: John KELLY
Mother: Mary DONOHER
Source: FHL Film 989745 Dates: 1830 - 1848

Hope these help!!  Janet


From: "Jay Kubik" jayghkub@coastalnet.com
To: janet_sandberg@hotmail.com
Subject: Kelly
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:40:25 -0400

Hi Janet -
Maybe the 3rd time will be the charm.  I am also searching for info on John
and Mary Kelly of County Roscommon.  One son, John Kelly, Jr. was born c.
1864.  Other children of John and Mary were:  Luke Kelly, Michael Kelly and
Catherine Kelly.  This was an RC family.  John Kelly, Jr.'s obit says the
family came to Pascoag, RI when he was a young boy.  I am searching for a
townland for this family or for a birth/baptismal record.  Thanks so much
for your kindness to those of us on the list.
Jeannine Garrahan
Researching:  Burns, Burke, Reynolds, Dunagin, Kelly, Garrahan of County
Roscommon


DUBLIN:

Hi, Anthony,

Could please you add my query and put it on the radio?  (Edit as necessary).

I am searching DUNNE and KELLY lines in Dublin.  My grandfather Timothy Joseph Dunne was born in Palmerstown, So. Dublin in Feb. 1886 or 1887 to Francis (Frank) Dunne (died in Dublin in 1927) and Julia Kelly.  Timothy was brother to Mary, Annie, Joseph, John, and another boy, all born in Dublin(?).  Tim served in the British Merchant Marine from 1915 to 1920.  He immigrated to the US in the early 1920's, settling in New York City.  Tim married Bridget (Bessie) Cunnion (born in County Leitrim 1897) in 1926 in NYC.  Tim and Bessie had two sons Francis (Frank, my dad) and John.  Tim died in 1961 as a result of an auto accident in NYC.

As far as I know, Tim's parents and siblings remain in Dublin.  His sister Mary married a man named Kearns and they had three children, Shelia, Maureen, and Willie.  We are in touch with Mary's decendents, but would love to hear from any members of the Francis Dunne/Julia Kelly family.

Thanks a lot,
Nancy Dunne


IRELAND:

Seek decendants of Lawrence Kelly b abt. 08May1811 Ireland  m  Hannah
Donovan abt 1815 Ireland d 11Jul1874 Marshall Co., KS
Son James ( Patrick ) Kelley/Kelly b 18Apr1838 Eire Co., NY m Charlotte
Bennett 04Mar1866 Marshall Co., KS d abt 1885 Marshall
Son John Kelley ? b 01Jun1841 Wyoming Co., NY disappeared about 1870's
Dau Catherine Marie b abt 15May1842 Wyo., NY m William Kennedy 29Sep1861 d
19Nov1897 Clear Fork, Marshall, KS dec. OK
Son Peter b 01Jun1843 Wyo., NY d 13May1864 Camp Butler, MO of disease
Son William Henry Kelley b 01 Jan1847 Java Twp, Wyo., NY m Myra Cathcart
25Dec1873 Frankfort, Marshall. well documented
Dau Margaret I. Kelley b 25May1849 Java, NY m William D. Robbins 24Jan1869
St Joseph's Wyoming, Vermillion, Marshall
Son Patrick Kelley b 22 Oct1851 Java m Mary
Son Joseph Kelly b abt 10Oct1854 Java m Elisa R. b abt 1856, England ?
Dau Jane Kelley b Apr 1858 Wyoming, Vermillion, Marshall Co., KS m William
R. Hazlett b 1856 m 24May1877 Clear Creek, Pottawatomie Co., KS son David
Edward b abt 1879 daus Cecelia M. b abt 1881, &Mary G.b abt 1883
Thanking those with any info.   Mike Kelley  Wichita, KS


Ui Maine:

Hi Ted, I'll check our last exchange, and subsequent updates, and get back to you if I find any suggestions of connections. Mine were there since the 4th century, so there were many associations along the way.   Don

----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Meehan
To: Donkelly
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Ui Maine
Don, a chara,             When I first began searching out reports of my own ancestors, one of the things I did was to go through the Annals of the Four Masters looking for potential variants of the name. Some of those which I had found - and which turned out to be related - were O'Miadhachain, O'Mithighin, and O'Meighan. Some other obvious ones like O'Meehin, for example, also made my list.            Along with these, I had included Ui Maine, initially. Then, perhaps after hearing from you, I learned that the Ui Maine were a branch of the Kellys, and so I dismissed further reports using this surname, as unrelated. However, recently, another Meehan researcher has come across some information which seems to link our line with the O'Kellys, and specifically it mentions those of us whose name had once been spelled O'Mithighin.             I attach the following report from my fellow Meehan researcher, in the hope that it might provoke a response from you, that will help us find some starting points to track down this line.   Go raibh maith agat! Ted Meehan   Ted,
I followed up on the association between the Abbey in Clontuskeret and the Meehans. There was a fairly prominent branch of the Meehans in this area sometime between the 8th and the 12th century. The abbey at Clontuskeret did fall into the hands of the Meehans during this period. They article stated that the "Priory fell into the lay control and was owned by a family of Mithighin".
 This area of South Galway was in control of the O,Kellys of the UI Maine. According to one article the inauguration of the chief of the O'Kelly,s was done by the family of the Mithighin (Meehins) (sic) and others at Clontuskeret. If the Meehans controlled the Monastery and were involved in the inauguration of the Chief of the O, Kellys there maybe some merit in the theory they were Corabs of Clontuskert for a time. The O'Kelly's held their rank as princes of Ui-Maine down to the reign of Queen Elizabeth I.. The abbey is associated with St Baedan. I will follow it up and keep you informed.

Charlie


Searching for my 2nd greatgrandfather, Patrick KELLY, b. 1818 Co Galway,
IrelandAmerica, 1841, port of New YorkDecl of Intent, 1844, Centre Co., PA;
naturalized, 1845, Centre Co., PA.  I realize this is a 'backward' search,
but am trying to establish where in PA he lived in the 1850 census.  He died
ca. 1853-56, as his wife Mary Ann DOLAN married a second time, abt. 1856 to
Richard HALL [Sr.]  Their first child was baptized, Aug 1857, St. Matthew's
Catholic Church, Tyrone, Blair Co., PA.

Thank you for your time.

Marybeth Corrigall
ACMBJC@aol.com


County Kerry:

Greetings.

I am researching the KELLY families from Iron Mills or Old Forge, Glenflesk area, Co. Kerry.

I can go back as far as Patrick(#1) O'KELLY, b. abt. 1785, although I don't have any specifics on him. His son's were Patrick, Edmund and Denis (O')Kelly. Patrick Kelly(#2) was the father of my great-grandfather, Patrick(#3).

Patrick(#2) married Ellen O'DONOGHUE in Rusheenmore in 1834. They had from 8 to 11 children, depending on my sources. Many of these children emigrated to America; specifically, Salt Lake City, Utah, Chicago, IL, Wisconsin and Massachusetts are the ones I know of.

I do have a blood relative of my Kelly's who stills lives in Iron Mills, but she does not have that much information on the family history. Although, from the information she gave me, I have been able to find much more info through the internet and from great lists like this one.

Thank you.
Patsy   


I know several people on this list are researching KELLYS.  I have a Susan
Tibeaudo KELLY m. William Gleadow Newcomen Booker GRAY abt. Apr. 1890.
She was a granddaughter of James ALLEN and her parents lived in the Given's
Place (Lakeview).  I have some information that would be of interest to her
descendents and will be glad to share if she is yours.

Georgia
Albuquerque


GALWAY 04/07/07

Searching for information about my 2nd Gr-grf, Patrick KELLY, b. 1818, Co.
Galway, IrelandAmerica, 1841, Port of New YorkDeclaration of Intent made in
Centre Co., PA, 1844; Naturalized, 1845, Centre Co., PA; Married Mary Ann
DOLAN (1825, Co. Galway, Ireland--1890, Allegheny city, Allegheny Co., PA);
Two known children:  Patrick/Patsy KELLY, b. abt. 1852, PA [county unknown],
and Mary Anna KELLY, b. 1855, PA [county unknown].

Hoping to locate Patrick in the 1850 PA Federal census, but have had
difficulty, as there are reportedly 77 Patrick KELLYs in the PA 1850 census. 
Patrick is not found in the Centre Co., PA census, 1850; nor the Allegheny
Co. PA 1850 census.  He probably died abt. 1858-60, as his wife Mary Ann
DOLAN married a second time, abt. 1862, to one Richard HALL.

Thank you for your time.

Marybeth Corrigall
ACMBJC@aol.com


ROSCOMMON 1855:

Hello all Listers

I wonder if anyone can help me with my brick wall.I have located my ancestors Thomas Madden b circa 1849 and his wife Margaret Kelly born circa 1855 and their children Patrick, Thomas Jnr,James,Sarah,John Joseph (My grandfather),Margaret and Mary Ann in the 1901 census.The family was residing at the Townland of Dunmurraghoe.The childrens births were registered at Strokestown Co Roscommon.As the family was Catholic could anyone tell me the local catholic church's address? I have no proof that either of the parents were born or married in Co Roscommom.I would like to think that they may have been married in the local church.
I am also researching from Australia which increases the difficulty of access.
Any tips on where to go from here would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Marion J


Hi Ted, I'll check our last exchange, and subsequent updates, and get back to you if I find any suggestions of connections. Mine were there since the 4th century, so there were many associations along the way.   Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Meehan
To: Donkelly
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Ui Maine
Don, a chara,             When I first began searching out reports of my own ancestors, one of the things I did was to go through the Annals of the Four Masters looking for potential variants of the name. Some of those which I had found - and which turned out to be related - were O'Miadhachain, O'Mithighin, and O'Meighan. Some other obvious ones like O'Meehin, for example, also made my list.            Along with these, I had included Ui Maine, initially. Then, perhaps after hearing from you, I learned that the Ui Maine were a branch of the Kellys, and so I dismissed further reports using this surname, as unrelated. However, recently, another Meehan researcher has come across some information which seems to link our line with the O'Kellys, and specifically it mentions those of us whose name had once been spelled O'Mithighin.             I attach the following report from my fellow Meehan researcher, in the hope that it might provoke a response from you, that will help us find some starting points to track down this line.   Go raibh maith agat! Ted Meehan   Ted,
I followed up on the association between the Abbey in Clontuskeret and the Meehans. There was a fairly prominent branch of the Meehans in this area sometime between the 8th and the 12th century. The abbey at Clontuskeret did fall into the hands of the Meehans during this period. They article stated that the "Priory fell into the lay control and was owned by a family of Mithighin".
 This area of South Galway was in control of the O,Kellys of the UI Maine. According to one article the inauguration of the chief of the O'Kelly,s was done by the family of the Mithighin (Meehins) (sic) and others at Clontuskeret. If the Meehans controlled the Monastery and were involved in the inauguration of the Chief of the O, Kellys there maybe some merit in the theory they were Corabs of Clontuskert for a time. The O'Kelly's held their rank as princes of Ui-Maine down to the reign of Queen Elizabeth I.. The abbey is associated with St Baedan. I will follow it up and keep you informed.

Charlie

Ted Meehan tmeehan@arczip.com


 

I am trying to trace which part of Ireland my family came from (for a long time, with no results, as yet, but heres hoping).  DANIEL KELLY & CICILIA McLAUGHLAN (the spelling of cecilias name has varied-sicilia, cecilia, mclachlan, mcloughlin, laughlin) - both born in ireland children - ELIZA KELLY born 13 march 1857 in PORT GLASGOW, RENFREW, SCOTLAND.                 PATRICK KELLY born 18 august 1862 in PORT GLASGOW, RENFREW, SCOTLAND                 THOMAS KELLY born 13 august 1859 iN PORT GLASGOW RENFREW, SCOTLAND. Can ANYONE relate to these kellys and what part of IRELAND THEY DESCENDED FROM                  Thank-you       fiona kelly

GALWAY:

Greetings!          My e-mail has changed to burrpark@hotmail.com

ARTHUR KELLY(where born?-maybe FUERTY) b 1764 d. 1801 (37 years) buried in Roman Catholic cemetary in FUERTY.
Sons were Thomas d 1856, William d 1822, John d 1840.Patrick b 1798

I do not know what ARTHUR's wife name was or marriage certificate orwhere burial is
.
PATRICK married SARAH GARRICK(various spellings) (we know nothing about her birth, marriage, parents, buriel)
PATRICK  had a daughter Maria b 1844,d 1869 in FUERTY(Sarah may be the mother.) (do not know what she died of.at 25 years)

PATRICK & SARAH had son PETER J. KELLY who married ELLEN A. BURKE.
of Galway.(Do not have record of b, 20 MAY, 1857 in CO GALWAY . (Mary Manning and Richard Burke-are parents of Ellen who I believe lived in Galway or/andTuam)who I know nothing about . Ellen was Catholic and received her confirmation in Tuam .

Many thanks for any info  Have a good day!.


COUNTY LOUTH:

Dear Don,

I found your page today during a search for Kelly relation, Marrey.  There is a posting without an email address and I wonder if you might still have the contact.

 

The posting is from Kevin Keeley in the UK who gave an interesting account of the derivation of his name from Kelly, but more importantly lists his family as hailing from County Louth and emigrated to Philadelphia .  My Kellys are from County Louth with same point of entry as well and I am interested in seeing if there is more in common.

 If you are uncomfortable in sharing Mr. Keeley’s information, perhaps you would be so kind as to forward mine?  I have some postings on Ancestry.com that he might be directed to as well.  Thanks in advance.

 Regards,

Toni Sand

tonisand@optonline.net 


CORK 04/07/07

Hi Mike and all other Kelley/Kellys reading this.  Maybe someone can help me
with my wall.  I cannot trace my Irish line back past my GGrand Parents,
John Kelly  (1816-1874) and his wife Honora Harrington (C'EBAGH)
(1821?-1895).  They brought their family of 10 boys and 1 girl to Calumet,
MI  about 1867. He had been a copper miner in the Allihies Mine in
Castletownbere, Co. Cork, Ireland. Their older children (1842-1856) were
born in the townland of Coulagh Ard and Coulagh, Eyeries Parish. The 5
youngest children (1859-1866) were born in the townland of Cluin, Allihies
Parish. According to Johns death certificate his parents were Con and Mary
Kelly.  I think Honora's parents were Timothy Harrington and Helena
Sullivan. She may have been born in Dunnaway, Cork, Ireland.
 I would appreciate any help anyone can give me.  Thank you.  James R. Kelly

From: "Mike Kelly" profned@bigpond.com
Subject: Re: [KELLEY] Kelley of Sunderland, Vermont circa 1800


 From Mike Kelly
 Sydney,
 Australia
 Dear Joan,
 I don't know what info you have regarding your Kelleys but I have quite a
 large amount going back to about 1651.
 It is all on Excel spread sheet and if you desire i can send it or part of
 it to you.
 I also have the email address of the person who supplied most of the info
 and other interested parties.
 You may think it is funny that an Australian has this info but I have been
 collecting all the queries etc from Kell(e)y roots and am collating it in
 what I hope is a logical form.

 Mike


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Joan Little jblittle@worldpath.net
 To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 8:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [KELLEY] Kelley of Sunderland, Vermont circa 1800


  Could you give me a bit more information.  My grandmother, Edith Kelley
  Beach, b 1856, Sunderland, Vermont, was the daughter of Patrick Henry
  Kelley.  His father, William Kelley, 1777, Dummerston, Windham, Vermont,
 was
  the son of William Kelley, b 1751,Hopkinton, Massachusetts and Lucy
 Corruth,
  dob unk.   I don't know the middle name of either William Kelley.  My
  g-grandfather, Patrick Henry Kelly, was known, by some, as Henry.
  Just food for thought.
 
  Joan in NH
 
 
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: FPorter271@aol.com
  To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com
  Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:47 PM
  Subject: [KELLEY] Kelley of Sunderland, Vermont circa 1800
 
 
   I need the parents of John Kelley who married a Lucy.  They sold land
to
 a
   Benjamin Smith 1 October 1800 in Sunderland, Vermont.  Land Records
b-4
  page
   321
  


DUBLIN 04/07/07

Hi!

       Could someone please check the 1901 and 1911 Dublin City Directory for
Samuel O'Kelly/O'Ceallaigh?  The family was apparently living across the
street from St. Joseph's Catholic Church which is located on Berkeley Road. 
Samuel was a master bootmaker at a shop on Berkeley Road.  This was a large
family with 10 children, 3 of whom died at a young age.  Hoping to confirm
the names of all of the children, particularly those who died young.  Many
thanks!

Joni Leffler

IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com


DONEGAL, MASSACHUSETTS, 

04/07/07

Hello all,
      Although  I have been a member of this list for about 4 years, I never
had enough information to submit to 'Your Most Wanted Kelly"!

       Just a few month ago, I discovered my Greatgrandmother, MARY KELLY,
was born ABT. 1828, in Donegal, Ireland.
Her father was JAMES KELLY  of Donegal, and her mother was ELLEN McCUSKER,
also of Donegal.

       MARY KELLY  married RICHARD GORMAN     [perhaps of Limerick or
Kilkenny] about 1846, however PLACEof marriage, and DATE/PLACE  of entry to
US are unknown, at this time.  Possible places might be  Charlestown, MA; 
Belmont, MA.  and eventually, WALTHAM,MA where RICHARD GORMAN, and several
children are buried, later in the century, in Calvary Cemetary.

Also, RICHARD GORMAN'S mother was JOHANNA [Mirtell] GORMAN,  who died at 99
years of age and is also buried in WALTHAM,MA. She was also from "IRELAND".
     Mary [Kelly] Gorman, was a STRONG woman.  She buried several children,
while her husband was living, then her husband , who died in 1888, in
Waltham, Massachusetts, and several adult/ unmarried children after that.

     Kate 'KELLY' Gorman, my GRANDMOTHER, was born in Waltham, MASSACHUSETTS,
 on February 10, 1871. 

    I have no more information on the KELLY family,  or the GORMAN family.

    Does anyone have any KELLY's of DONEGAL, IRELAND, who might have come to
MASSACHUSETTS  around 1845 or before?

      I don't know if any KELLY'S  besides MARY KELLY came to the United
States, BUT a JAMES KELLY[FATHER/OR UNCLE]   was a Godfather to their FIRST
child, MARY KELLY [ who was born in Cambridge, MA in 1848. ]

         I think I included too much this time, but if anyone can sort
through it, I would love to hear from you;                            Thanks,
Lyn Walton 
                                                                             
 mkateriw@aol.com



Mick, do you know what the "Doolin Kelly's" refer to/mean, I have recently
heard the term "Silverhill Kelly's of Donohill".  My West Tipperary Kelly's
are from Ballysheeda (Ancestral home of the Dwyers) and are also related to
the "Alleen Kelly's" from Alleen.

John Kelly a recently discovered relative of mine in Ireland sent me the
enclosed  about Kelly burials in West Tipperary, it might be of some
interest to yourself or other researchers seeking Kelly ancestors, you will
see that John refers to the "Silverhill Kellys" ( I have recently been in
contact with an Irish descendant of the Silverhill Kelly's who now lives in
Dublin.), John Kellys home in Cappawhite looks out over Gortnacoola(gh)
where some of the Silverhill Kellys once lived.

Carpe Diem, Vincent Le Plastrier

Resting Places of the Kelly's


The Kelly family which is situated mainly in West Tipperary with it's roots
in Annacarty and Donohill,  chief resting place was located in Kilpatrick in
the parish of Annacarty.     In the 1800's they were graveyards in
Kilpatrick (Annacarty), Doon, Toem (Cappawhite) Donohill (Annacarty),
Solohead, Shronell, Ballintemple (Dundrum) and Emly.  Two family of Kellys
were buried in Doon i.e. The Kellys of Toemaline Doon and Nora Kelly nee
Ryan of Alleen House, Black Din Kelly's wife.     This grave was her family
grave of Ryans who settled in Alleen.    They were no graves for Kellys in
Ballintemple, Toem, Solohead and surprisely Donohill where the Kellys had
settled around in the 1800's.  The Kellys who are known as the Silverhill
Kellys of Donohill are buried in Shronell (lattin) and tradition has it that
there are not the same Kellys.   There is the Emly Kellys, who claim
relationship and they are buried in Emly.    Naturaly, the Drumgill Kellys
of Borrisleigh are buried in Templederry and Ileagh (Borrrisleigh)



The majority of  Kelly's were buried in Kilpatrick up the advent of the New
Cemetery in Tipperary.     Several of the family moved from Kilpatrick to
Tipperary at the bequest of Dan Kelly who was Tipperary Town Commissioner
and under his administration Tipperary had built a new cemetery.     The
people who were used to being buried in their own family graves for
generations were reluctant to go into a new cemetery.    They rather be
buried with their own people in their own family graves.    People were
buried in old graves for generations until new regulations in the mid 1900's
allowed only 3 people to be buried in a grave.   Dan Kelly canvassed all,
his cousins to try and influence them to buried their loved one's in the new
graveyard and was successful.





Kilpatrick Graveyard


The Graveyard is an ancient burial ground and at one time was a church
ground.     The Kellys are buried here from around the late 1700's and early
1800's and would suggest that the families from Knockgloss and Coolacussane
were the main branches of all the Kellys.


The Kellys are buried in approximately a straight line down from the gate of
Kilpatrick and about 2/3 rows back from boundary wall and about 6/7 graves
in from right boundary wall.  The old tradition was we were buried under a
bush in Kilpatrick graveyard.    There are gravestones to Knockgloss Kelly's
,  Alleen Kelly's,  Churchfield Kelly's, Shandangan Kellys, the latter two
being Kelly's of Coolnagun.


 New Cemetery Tipperary



 The Kelly's who are buried in Tipperary are from; Davis Street, Chadville,
Alleen, Ballywalter/Ballinahinch, St. Michael St., Springmount Golden,
Ballinvassa.  and Curraghpoor.     The cousins; O'Dwyers of Publehill, O'
Neill of Clonganue, McCormack of Lisheen and others are buried in Tipperary.
The names just mentioned are in two rows long and mainly opposite each other
so in death and life they are all together.   The graves are situated half
way up the hill or drive from the main gate on the left as you face inwards.



Doon Cemetry

Kelly's of Toemaline Doon co. Limerick

Erected by Johanna Kelly of Toemaline in memory of her mother Winifred O'
Dwyer who departed this life Oct.18th.1875 Aged 62 years and her children
Mary Ann and Johanna.

Note Grave is about 9 in from back wall of the old grave yard.



Emly Cemetry St. Ailbe's

Note:The grave yard is divided into two halfs -left and right from footpath
down the middle .The numbers start fro the back wall.  Drumcomogue Kellys
are 4th from the wall on the left.    LisobyhaneKellys are on the right and
opposite Gubbins Vault



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mick Dowling" itshimselfthen@bigpond.com
To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:30 PM
Subject: [IRL-TIP] Clogheen and Ballylooby Parishes


 Hello

 My ancestors came from the area roughly bounded by Cahir,Clogheen and
 Ardfinnan and for the most part ended up in Australia or New Zealand.
Family
 names are Ahearn, Dowling (Dooling, Doolen, Doolin etc),  Fraher,
Glasheen,
 Hyland, Keating, Kelly(from Ballyporeen, known there as Doolin Kellys),
 McGee, McGillicuddy, Scanlon, and Slattery, and countless spelling
variations of the those names.

 Mick Dowling



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Galway

Patrick KELLY, b. abt. 1820, possibly County Galway, IrelandAmerica
mid-late 1840's; md. Mary Ann DOLAN, b. 1825, Co. Galway, Ireland; two known
children: Patrick "Patsy" KELLY, b. abt. 1852, PA (county unknown) and Mary
Anna KELLY, b. 1854, PA (county unknown).  No date of death or place of
burial found for Patrick KELLY; thought to have died ca. 1855-1860.  Possible
place of death Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA.  No information known abt. his
parents and/or siblings.  Mary Ann nee DOLAN married a second time to one
Richard HALL, b. 1817, Ireland.

Marybeth Corrigall
ACMBJC@aol.com


  From: "Mary Brown" emarybrown@hotmail.com Subject: Tracing ancestors in Ireland
 I am trying to trace my family roots in Ireland.  My great grandfather was a
 James Kelly, married in l49 or l850 to a Miss Feenan Or Finian, the daughter
 of his employer.  James was his coachman.  His son, William Kelly, my
 Grandfather, was born in Ireland in l886, died l888 in Devon, England.  He
 served with the Royal Irish Rifles for 2l years and later settled in Devon
 where he joined the Prison Service at Dartmoor.  married Clara Margrett
 Hodge who was born November 6th, l864 in the Plymouth area.  She died
 February, l945 in Portsmouth.

 They had four daughters and one son Edgar Christopher Kelly, born December
 l4, l893 in Tipperary, Clonmel, Ireland, this was my father.

 If anyone has any information regarding the above I would really appreciate
 hearing from them.
 

  Dublin  

From: "Linda Wright" linda.wright2@sympatico.ca    Hi

 I am looking for information on my grandmother's parents.  Their names
 are Patrick Kelly and Ann J. Kelly. According to the census in l881 for
 St. Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands they were from Dublin

 Patrick Kelly age 48 at time of the census year of birth 1833
 Ann J. Kelly  age 44   "    "   "     "                  1837

 I am assuming that those are the years of their births depending whether
 they had their birthdays around the time the census was taken.

 I do not if they had any which when living in Dublin but I do know that
 their son Michael was born in St.Helier in 1859

 Thank you very much to anyone who can help me. And bits of information
 will be greatly appreciated. 

 Linda

 

 


Connaught, Ui Maine From: Dddarwin@aol.com Subject: Re: Kelly Surname - Ireland
 Hi Don,
 Well, here goes.....hope I don't make any typos but will make sure none are
 in the names if I do. Sorry I can't do the Irish blips on the name as I don't
 know how....I'm sure there is a way.
 Have a great Sunday, Gretchen FLYNN

 The Dictionary of Irish Family Names by Ida Grehan

 (0) Kelly
 O Ceallaigh
 Kelly comes second to Murphy as the most numerous surname in Ireland. It goes
 back over a thousand years, as does the Kelly coat of arms, which has as its
 crest a mythical green beast, the enfield. When the Kelly Chieftain, Tadgh
 Mor O Ceallaigh, was killed at the battle of Clontarf  in 1014, the enfield
 is said to have come out of the sea to guard Tadgh Mor's body until his
 kinsmen could give him an honourable burial.

 The O Kellys were a powerful family in Connacht, where they ruled over a vast
 territory. When they were not fighting, they built churches and castles and
 they held high rank in the Church. They have been a shaping force in the long
 saga of Irish history and when they could no longer fight for their own
 country they went abroad to Europe and America. Today, there are far more
 Kellys in USA than there ever were in Ireland.

 In 1863 Colonel Patrick Kelly commanded the Irish brigade at Gettysburg. In
 1893 Michael Kelly was the US baseball champion. "Honest" John Kelly was the
 first Irish Catholic head of Tammany Hall. There were also the Kellys of
 Philadelphia. Jack Kelly was the first American oarsman to win an Olympic
 Gold Medal in 1920. His daughter was the much-loved Grace Kelly, film star
 and Princess of Monaco. Captain Colm Kelly was the US pilot of the bomber
 which destroyed a Japanese battleship at Pearl Harbor. James Edward Kelly is
 known as "the sculptor of American history".

 In Austria the Kellys served the Empress Maria Theresa so well she awarded
 them the title of Counts of the Holy Roman Empire, which they still hold. In
 Australia they have achieved dubious fame with Ned Kelly and his brothers,
 the outlawed bushrangers. They also had a bishop of Sydney.

 The Kellys have also been outstanding in the field of literature. Since the
 last century there has been a throng of Kelly dramatists, journalists, actors
 and novelists.

 

 


Dublin

 
----- Original Message -----
From: The McAllister Family
To: donkelly@grovenet.net
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:31 AM
Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
Hi all,     my name is Michael McAllister and my most wanted O'Kelly is Nicholas J. from Dublin, who's daughter Elizabeth Mary born around 1890's, maybe Dublin, married my grandfather in Dublin 1924.      Both Elizabeth and Thomas Anthony McAllister were deaf and dumb.  Thomas Anthony was a boot/shoe maker as was his father Thomas.  Any information at all will be greatly appreciated.  Regards to all, Mick McAllister

 

 


Roscommon

 
----- Original Message -----
From: NEWTONMA387
To: donkelly@grovenet.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 8:27 PM
Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
Good day! Looking for info on marriage and births of Patrick J. Kelley and Sarah Garrick who lived in FUERTY, Roscommon, Ireland.  His father may have been ARTHUR born about 1764 and died 29 May 1801.   Patrick and Sarah had 4 sons, WILLIAM born 1822 (found in the 1901 Census at age 79 widow/farmer) with son Thomas (41) d in law Delia, Wm (7) Kate (6) Delia (5) Frances (3) and John Devine (19) gs/blacksmith   JOHN HENRYborn 1840 married Mary SLOAN abt 1870 and had son Patrick abt 1870. Moved to Newton, Massachusetts about 1877   PETER J. Born 1859 in FUERTY Moved to Massachusetts abt 1880   Became citizens about May 1885   I believe THOMAS or PATRICK was another son.   There may have been more children, I do not know.  Because of the birth dates, I'm thinking there may have been more than one wife.  If so, I do not know if Sarah was first or second.  I do not know anything more about Sarah Garrick,where she came from or parents.   Thanking you in advance if you can shed any light or make connection for me.

 

 


  County Louth, Ireland : "Mary Mills" stock@netrax.net
     Saw your query looking for Kellys and O'Kellys in Co. Louth. Do you
 know anything about a John Aaron Kelly married to a Margaret
 Marry/Marrey? The family story goes he was a fennian who had to flee
 Ireland about 1880. According to family lore, the Kellys were makers of
 fine shoes and boots and the Marreys were weavers of table linens in
 Drogheda. In America John Aaron Kelly worked in the shoe industry, in
 management positions and lived in several cities in New York State.

     He may have had a sister or cousin Jennie Kelly who lived in
 Montgomery Alabama and married 1. a Dr. Nicrosi and 2 Phillips
 Fitzpatrick. She had a sister Claire who became a nun. Does any  of this
 ring a bell. I hope so I would like to meet a Kelly cousin.


 Mary Kelly Mills

 

 


Galway and Connaught in general

      The 1995 meeting in Roscommon Town is where we met the man who found  the  graves of our Kelly GGParents.
      I am sure you Kellys out there would find it very worthwhile and, I might add, great fun.
      One whole newsletter was devoted to the story of how our graves were found.
      Below is a quote from the web site.... 

"TRACING YOUR KELLY ANCESTORS............The Association has been compiling a database for research from the information supplied by members.
New members are asked to let us have as much information as they can about their family connections. Of course, we are glad to make this information available for all our members. Valuable information can often also be obtained through organisations involved in local family history in Galway and Roscommon. If your name is Kelly, Kelley, O'Kelly or O'Ceallaigh, we invite you to join the Kelly Clan Association. "
      | kelly places and people | | from our first newsletter | | noticeboard |  | Member Application |
 The Planning stages for our gathering in 2001 are almost complete and the Council of the Association hopes to approve the final plans at our next meeting shortly.Kelly Clan Gathering 25th to 27th May 2001, at the Bellbridge Hotel, Spanish Point, Co. Clare. 
tisrara@earthlink.net

 


  Cork, Ireland  

From: "JAMES R KELLY" JKELL506@prodigy.net To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
 I am looking for descendants of Daniel J. Kelly and his wife Ellen
 Harrington. Daniel was born in Co. Cork, Ireland in 1857 and died in Calumet
 MI. in 1930. Daniel spent his whole life working in the Copper Mines at
 Calumet. His known children are: John Emmitt, b. 1880, Cornelius J. b. 1882,
 John "Jerry" b. 1889, Daniel J. b. 1890, James F. b.1892, Veronica b. 1893
 and Stephen Eugene b. 1896.
 With all of these children there must be some descendants out there
 somewhere. If so please contact me jkell506@prodigy or 915-755-9679.  Thank
 you. James R. Kelly


Galway, Ireland

From: ACMBJC@aol.com To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 10:27 AM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
 Patrick KELLY, b. abt. 1820, possibly County Galway, IrelandAmerica
 mid-late 1840's; md. Mary Ann DOLAN, b. 1825, Co. Galway, Ireland; two known
 children: Patrick "Patsy" KELLY, b. abt. 1852, PA (county unknown) and Mary
 Anna KELLY, b. 1854, PA (county unknown).  No date of death or place of
 burial found for Patrick KELLY; thought to have died ca. 1855-1860.  Possible
 place of death Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA.  No information known abt. his
 parents and/or siblings.  Mary Ann nee DOLAN married a second time to one
 Richard HALL, b. 1817, Ireland.

 Marybeth Corrigall
 ACMBJC@aol.com

  From: "Elizabeth Reid" bluebell2@optusnet.com.au    Hi list, posting my interests again:

 PETER KELLY  M  MARGARET FEILEY  IRELAND son
 PETER KELLY  M  MARGARET HALL/HALE  IRELAND daughter
 MARGARET LYLE KELLY  M  ROBERT MckEAG/McCAIG  SCOTLAND 1866 son 
 JAMES McCAIG  M  MARGARET JANE KENNEDY LONDONDERRY 1918 daughter of:
 WILLIAM JAMES KENNEDY
 JOHN McKEAG  M  AGNES BRANDON  IRELAND son
 ROBERT McKEAG  M  JANET TORRANCE  1838 IRELAND
 ALEX TORRANCE  M  ELIZABETH  CLARK  IRELAND?
 does anyone recognise these names?
 Elizabeth.


Galway:

FRom Mike Kelly
profned@bigpond.com
G'day Don,

Oh yes, some of my mob owned a castle just south of Ballinasloe on the road
to Portumna. It was only small I think. I think it was part of a defence line and there were quite a few castles
built when they became fashionable.Many of them were burned down in various wars etc.
The castle which some of my ancestors built was built in about 1400 and was called Ballagh castle in Clontuskert parish, Galway. There is only a mound left now, most of the building material was probably purloined & is in other
structures around the district. It was only a pissy little one &, I bet, would have been drafty and damp in
the winter. Be good for arthritis etc. That line of Kellys went bankrupt (probably from gambling) and lost the
property in about 1830 or so. The old man, William, was a hard tough old bloke who knew how many beans
made five but his son, John, I think, probably tried to climb on his sisters marriage into what passed for high society in the area and this was more than he could afford.

Yes, it was our Kelly Clan Assn which had the idea of purchasing and
renovating a castle. We had one in mind but financing it would have been a
problem. Most of them would be on private land and you would have to negotiate with
the owner of the land. I'd imagine that doing up a castle would be a money,
time and patience consuming exercise.

From Mike Kelly
 profned@bigpond.com

 G'day Don,

 A couple of things.  If your ancestry is around Tuam you are more than likely of the Ui Maine
 sept, the largest of the Kelly septs. There are about nine septs and all but two are unrelated as far as we
know. There are also Kelly septs in the Isle of Mann (McKelly) and Scotland.
I think all Kellys were OKelly before QE1. Most dropped the "O" to sound less Irish in England probably and it
probably was better in business and employment. In some families there are OKelly, Kelly, OCeallaigh.
 In my family there are hyphenated Kellys, Brooke Kelly under the "Bs" in the phone book. There are not too many with the name spelled with the second "E" in Ireland, Australia, or England.

I am collecting Kelly data for the mix n match service for the Kelly Clan
 Association and all contributions will be gratefully acknowledged.
 Enclosed are a couple of inserts for your interest. The Kelly Clan Assn
are holding a clan rally in 2001 in Clare if you are interested.

From Mike kelly
profned@bigpond.com
 
With regard the spelling of our name, there is no official or correct
spelling at all. Recently I have been working on a line from a David OKilley of
Yarmouth, MA. He is descended from the OKellys of Gallagh Galway and on his descent
chart the name is spelled OKelley, OKelly, Kelley, Kelly, Killey.
In Elizabethan times the name was spelled sometimes Kellie. In Ireland, many people are changing the ways their names are spelled to the old way and in this case many Kellys are listed in the phone book as OCeallaigh.
 

Mike 


cc: to Black Sheep (for anyone interested in the final battle of Brian Boru,
Ireland).

Don:

You're Kelly was mentioned in the final battle, as follows:

 "The Irish marched at daybreak.  The army was split into three division:
the Dalcassians, led by Murrough & his son; the rest of the Mustermen, under
the command of the prince of the Deisi, Mothla O Fealan; and Taig O Kelly
with the army of Connacht and two companies from the Scot Land."

Taug O Kelly was your ancestor, right?

Jan C.

From: Donkelly donkelly@grovenet.net
To: jcurtis jcurtis@redrock.net
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [BS-L] Cause of Death

Thank you for visiting my homepage at
http://www.grovenet.net/donkelly/index.html

Have you visited my family page at
http://hompages.rootsweb.com/donkelly/index.htm    ?

Lots of information on collateral families there.

 Don - I just looked at your Homepage & it's extremely well-done....!  I'm
 saving it so that I can look at it again.

 I'm about finished with the book....do you want me to send some of the
 sources that Llywelyn used for her research?  Also, do you have the
KINCORA
 poem by MacLiag (ca. 1015), about Brian Boru & family?  It's in the book.

  Jan C.   (I agree, re: the age at death...below...on well).

date of death shows age 8?.
 


cc: to Black Sheep (for anyone interested in the final battle of Brian Boru,
Ireland).

Don:

You're Kelly was mentioned in the final battle, as follows:

 "The Irish marched at daybreak.  The army was split into three division:
the Dalcassians, led by Murrough & his son; the rest of the Mustermen, under
the command of the prince of the Deisi, Mothla O Fealan; and Taig O Kelly
with the army of Connacht and two companies from the Scot Land."

Taug O Kelly was your ancestor, right?

Jan C.

From:: jcurtis jcurtis@redrock.net

Thank you for visiting my homepage at
http://www.grovenet.net/donkelly/index.html

Have you visited my family page at
http://hompages.rootsweb.com/donkelly/index.htm    ?

Lots of information on collateral families there.


From: jcurtis jcurtis@redrock.net

 Don - I just looked at your Homepage & it's extremely well-done....!  I'm
 saving it so that I can look at it again.

 I'm about finished with the book....do you want me to send some of the
 sources that Llywelyn used for her research?  Also, do you have the
KINCORA  poem by MacLiag (ca. 1015), about Brian Boru & family?  It's in the book.


Dublin and Armagh:

Don -

The last battle....Brian Boru was a Dalcassian...his oldest son was Murrough
(who always argued with Brian).

Brian, at the time was about 72 yrs. old, & Murrough insisted that Brian not
participate.  The battle was actually against Malachi, who had been the Ard
Ri before Brian...

Murrough was killed in the final battle and Brian was murdered in his tent
by the Viking, Brodir.

After Clontarf (battle area), both Brian & Murrough were buried (1012) at
Armagh.

What date is your first known Kelly?  He has to be related to Taig O
Kelly....

Let me know....

 Jan C. IBSSG

        cc:  Black Sheep (Irish History)

From: Donkelly donkelly@grovenet.net
To: jcurtis jcurtis@redrock.net
Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [BS-L] Cause of Death


Looks interesting. I am a history buff really and I am curious abut the
others, who the Dalcassians were....and who the Musterman from Munster were.

 


Clare To Australia

Good evening from Australia
Since my first posting to this list, I have found some more information,
that may assist making a connection with other Kelly researchers.

Patrick KELLY born abt. 1812. Parents Patrick KELLY and Margaret ?????
Patrick married an Ellen BOURKE and migrated to Australia before 1858.

Anybody make a connection?

Cheers,
Bob McKenzie
Australia
mck@datafast.net.au


Cork, Ireland

His name was Dennis F. Kelly born in the southern portion of Ireland in May of 1847 to parents Patrick Kelly and Margaret Stack (surname uncertain due to illegible handwriting).  He emigrated to US some time around 1860-4. Family folklore thought that he had come from County Cork, however research done by their Heritage Centre turned up nothing.

Unfortunately, that's all of the information that I have on this ancestor.

Thanks,
Brian Rooney


Tyrone, Ireland:

Hi Don Kelly

Below are a couple of most wanted Kelly adds I found on your most wanted
page. Placed by a Collin . COLLIN did not include an email address to be
reached at. I would forward him some information on Jonathan Kelly and
Sarah Jane Bates. Sarah Jane was my Great Great Aunt. I have some
information on the pair which Collin many like to add to his files. If you
could forward my email address to Collin I would be happy to share my
information with him.

Thanks

Waita Bates/ Klapwijk

I see two listings for Jonathan Kelly in Tyrone from the IGI British Isles
site. They are: Jonathan KELLY Born:
1801 Tyrone, Ireland Father: Jonathan KELLY Mother: (Not listed) Batch
number: 8022837 Sheet: 18 Jonathan
KELLY Christened: Feb 1797 Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland Father: Thomas KELLY
Mother: Anne Batch
number: C700701 Their birth years are not that far apart. I guess you'd
have to check them both out in order to
be able to rule one out. Who knows, maybe they're cousins? Altogether there
are 23 Jonathan Kelly listings
(Includes KELLEY variant), those two in N. Ireland, several listings in
Dublin and some in England. I'll check for
Sarah Bates in a few minutes. Hope this is helpful. Gloria

My gggrandfather, Jonathan KELLY emigrated to Canada from Tyrone abt 1818,
settling in Quebec. There seems to be no
trace of where in Tyrone he came from. Names of his seven sons, in birth
order, are James, Robert, Jonathan, Thomas,George, Samuel, Joseph. He
married in Canada Sarah Jane BATES who was also from Tyrone. -Colin

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/donkelly/kelstates/ireland.htm

Peter and Waita Klapwijk, Richmond, B.C.

resteddoginn@geocities.com


Queens County

Mary Beth wrote:-
Researching Kelly of Stradbally / Timaho(?), Queens County
My g-grandfather, James Patrick Kelly, was the son of Michael Kelly and
Catherine Buggy (Bogey).  He had at least 3 brothers, William,
Patrick,Michael, and a sister, Elizabeth. He was born around 1863.


Mary Beth

My gr-grandmother is a Foyle from Garryglass, Timahoe.  I remembered the
name Buggy when I was looking for the Foyles so I went back to the
Stradbally film to refresh my memory.

Going on what you gave above I found the following:-

June 5, 1857 Eliza of Michael Kelly & Kitty Buggy;  Witnesses Michael
McDonald & Ann Buggy  (Pg.23)

Dec. 16, 1860 Patt of Michael Kelly & Cath. Buggy:  Witnesses Patt
Shortall(?) & Biddy Buggy (Pg. 48)

Feb, 8   1863 Anne of Michael Kelly & Cath. Buggy.  Witnesses John & Cath.
Delaney (Entry #16)
Mar.15, 1863 Anne of Michael Kelly & Cath. Buggy.  Witnesses John  & Cath
Delaney (Pg. 64)
(Don't know why she's entered with two different dates.)

The film is LDS #0926128 - Baptisms & Marriages, 1820-1880 - Parochial
Registers of Stradbally.  The film notes say that The Catholic parish of
Stradbally contains the civil parishes of Moyanna, Stradbally, Curraclone,
Timogue, Kilcolmanbrack and Fossy.

You can probably find other relations as I just looked for the Buggy name
and didn't even look for Kellys.  In looking at my Foyle photocopies I found
a Wm. Buggy/Betty Burke(Vicarstown) as far back as 1826. A James Buggy in
Kyle, 1853, a Thos. Buggy in Moyanna, 1849 and also the years in between.
Doing research in this film can be very frustrating however.  In the early
years the Priest was certainly out to get his money's worth from each page
so the writing is very close -a ruler/magnifying glass might help.  Also he
was very slow to dip his pen in the inkwell and the writing is very faint if
not illegible sometimes but you get used to it and I found most of my
relations.

Hope this is of some help.

Regards,
Kathleen Barrett Dix,
Houston, TX.


From Belfast:

  From: jpatrick@LEGASSEMBLY.SK.CA To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 1:56 PM Subject: most wanted kelly
 I am looking for any information concerning my grandfather - Joseph KELLY.
 He was born October 30, 1903 in Belfast, North Ireland.  He was the son of
 Edward Kelly and Isabella (Fox) Kelly.  He was one of six children -
 siblings include Edward, Annie, Mary Jane, Isabella and Kathleen.  In the
 late 1920's he immigrated to Canada.  He married my grandmother (Elizabeth
 Violet YeeYum) in 1936 and fathered three children - my Dad (Norman) and his
 sisters Emily and Sharon.  In September, 1939 he enlisted in the Royal
 Canadian Army Service Corp.  His marriage broke up during the war and my
 research indicates that while he took his discharge at Halifax, Nova Scotia
 in August of 1946 - his last district office was listed as London, England.
 He has not been seen or heard from since.  I would be most grateful for any
 information.

 Thanks,

 Janis Patrick

 

 

 


 
From: Kevin Donohue
To: donkelly@grovenet.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 10:20 AM
Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
I'm trying to find the Kellys of Castletownbere, County Cork.  This is what I have so far: gggrandfather's name was Tade (Tim) Kelly. Married to a Peg O'Neill.  Tade was one of four: Tade, Cornelius (married Mary Murphy went to Australia), Mary (married a Mike O'Sullivan), Jack (married Julia O'Sullivan).  Tade had 6 children: Nora (married Daniel Murphy), Daniel 2/1849 being my ggrandfather (married Judy Den D Murphy), Jerry, John 4/1856, Timothy, Cornelius (married Judy Murphy).  Daniel and Judy had 12 children. Tim (married Hannah Cronin), Jeremiah, Nora, Mary (married Dan McAuliffe), Jack, Dan, Cornelius, Paddy, Denis (my Grandfather, married Johanna Murphy, Margaret (married Tom Manning) Julia, and Richard who became a Brother and changed his name to Brother Januarius.  Sound familiar to anyone?  Trying to find cousins.                                                 Thanks,                                                     Donna Kelly Donohue

 

 

 


Hi, Don!


    I'm uncertain of a Connaught connection, but anything is
possible.  I do know that Sean Thomas O'Kelly (O'Ceallaigh),
former president of Ireland from 1945-1959, was born in Dublin in 1882.
I have not yet seen it spelled as you have it - O'Collaugh.  I'd like to
find out
more about Sean T.'s family since there is a connection of some sort
with the Hickey family or perhaps the Lubby/Looby family.  How fortunate
you are to be able to go back as far as 1610!  That's fantastic!  Best of
luck
in your research!  Have you checked out this website?
http://www.okelly.net/main.htm   Hope you find some worthwhile info there.

Joni

----- Original Message -----
From: Donkelly donkelly@grovenet.net
To: jlleffler@itlnet.net
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:12 PM
Subject: O'Kelly


 Surnames: Ryan/O'Ceallaigh/O'Kelly/Lubby/Looby

 Hi Joni. This is off list, but I wonder if you have further information
 about O'Kelly.

 I recently posted my family surnames O'Kelly and O'Collaugh.

 Our last known ancestor in Ireland was Colla O'Kelly around 1610. The
family
 originally came from Northern Connaught.

 Grandma said, "we were in Connaught a thousand years and around Tuam two
 hundred years, and our name was O'Collaugh later changed to O'Kelly then
 Kelly when they came to Virginia.

 I wonder if, due to different language translations, grandma misspelled
the
 name. Have you run across the O'Collaugh spelling? Did your O'Ceallaigh
come
 from Connaught?
 Was that name changed to O'Kelly? If so on all counts, when and where?

 Thank you,
 Donald O'Collaugh Kelly

 

 


Hello Don
As they say 'when God made time he made plenty of it'. Please forgive my
long delay in replying to yours of the last century.

My line of O'Kelly comes from Co Laois. They were one of seven septs of the O'CEALLAIG tribes.
Although of the same name they were not related. Your clan are most likley related to the O'Kelly's of U MAINE. One of the oldest clans of Ireland.

Members of this clan were the bodyguard to BRIAN BRU the last high King of
Irealnd, and as you know he died in battle against the Norsemen in 1014 in
the Battle of Clontarf. 

The book of O'Kelly's is in existance and I'am also
keen to souce it, when I do I'll let you know.
Keep in touch from time to time.
Regards------ Joe Kelly
----------
From: "Donkelly" donkelly@grovenet.net
To: "cav kelly" cavkelly@indigo.ie
Subject: Re: O'Kelly clan
Date: Thu, Dec 30, 1999, 10:49 pm


Your question to your question Sir is, "probably". Our Donald O'Kelly line
was last known  around County Leitrim and County Galway, Town Tuam in ca
1700.

We originally lived in Connaught and our Celt name was O'Collaugh. I am
informed that the Normans and Saxons spelled it differently.

Three brothers came early 1700's to settle in King and Queen County,
Virginia where they
dropped the "O" it is said to allay suspicion and avoid capture by British
loyalists.

They later fought with for the Virginia Militia which went under the command
of General Washington during the Revolutionary War. Only Alexander survived
the war.

I have heard of you Joe. Please tell me what is happening in Wicklow. How
about your line? Did they come from old Connaught, or perhaps from old
Munster?

I have been trying for a couple of years to find a copy, in Latin or
translated to Irish or English, of the Book of O'Kelly written probably in
the 14th or 15th century. The original book I understand is housed in the
Royal Academy in Dublin.

Do you have an idea where I could find for sale a translated version of the
O'Kelly book?

Our families lost our lands and were scattered by many battles over the
centuries, and thousands died. It would be nice if we could all connect
again. I can dream can't I?

Don't lose touch Sir, and have a Happy New Year .

Don Kelly

----- Original Message -----
From: "cav kelly" cavkelly@indigo.ie
To: donkelly@grovenet.net
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 12:07 PM
Subject: O'Kelly clan


 Hi Don
 Saw yours on Internet----- are your Irish roots from Co. Laoise, which was
 known as Queens County.
 Regards  JOE KELLY. WICKLOW, IRELAND.



 

 


  ----- Original Message ----- From: GeraldineEvns@aol.com To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Most%20Wanted%20Kelly
 Hi Don,

 Sorry about the dim print.   Hope this reads more clearly.

 I'm interested in finding information about my Maternal Gt-Grandmother, Mary
 KELLY.

 She was born and (I believe) remained in Ireland.  She married Joseph KENNY
 in Carlow Ireland (date unknown, but as their eldest child died in 1916, aged
 22, it seems likely that they would have married from around 1890 to 1893).
 They had around ten children:

 Michael Joseph (Died, in WW1 June 1916, Aged 22. Details listed in
                           Commonwealth War Graves Commission Web site)
 Paddy (Also died in WW1?)
 Joe -  Had about six children
 Tom - Had about five children (Michael, Maurice, ?, ?, ?).
 John - Had about four children 2m 2f (Michael, Molly, Ellen and ?).
 Elizabeth - Had three children (Michael, Maurice and Maureen), who had about
                    four, Five and nine children respectively).
 Helena (Ellen) Josephine - (My Maternal Grandmother). She married John DOOLEY
                                          on 11 February 1918, at University
 Church, St Stephen's
                                          Green Dublin Ireland. My mother,
 Mary Catherine
                                          Dooley, born on 4 February 1919, at
 Carlow, was their
                                          only surviving child.
                                          Mary Catherine married Jeremiah
 HARTNETT of
                                          Newcastle West Limerick Ireland on 5
 April 1947 in
                                          London. Their four children are John
 Anthony, David
                                          Michael (deceased), both born in
 Dublin's Rotunda
                                          Hospital, Maria Helena Barbara and
 me, Geraldine
                                          Annette, both born in London England.
 Bridget - Had three children (Richard, Helen and Elizabeth)
 Mary -    Died without issue, I believe.
 Pa (Paddy - (Adopted? Died WW1?)

 Many thanks,

 Regards

 Geraldine Evans



 

 


Thanks - I would appreciate your posting.  What is the address of the "Most
Wanted" page?   Anyway, these folks have been elusive and hunting for
Kelley's is like looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack. . . .

Anyway, here's what I know:

Marquis Lafayette Kelley was born September 1836 "near Nashville" and died
January 4, 1895 in Hickory County.  He married Hanna Elizabeth Ritchey
November 26, 1865 in Elkton, MO.  She was born March 4, 1849 in Elkton, MO
and died May 24, 1927 in Hickory County, MO.  Children:

William Barrington Kelley. b. Feb. 24, 1865 Hickory County, MO; d. May 21,
1947
James Franklin Kelley, b. Sept. 17, 1866, d. October 24, 1897
Minnie Era Kelley, b. Apr 4, 1871; d. Apr 13, 1947
Joseph Clay Kelley, b. Nov. 1, 1873
John Marquis Kelley, b. Sept. 15, 1876
Sarah Evaline Kelley, b. Mar 23, 1881, Hickory County; d. May 28, 1951,
Hickory Co., MO
Dina Mae Kelley, b. Jul 11, 1882
Mary Ethel Kelley, b. Nov. 9, 1884, Hickory Co., MO; d. Feb 16, 1969
Nancy Holly Kelley, b. Oct. 15, 1886; d. Feb. 15, 1914
Bessie Roslie Kelley, b. May 11, 1888, d. Mar 16, 1918
Jessie Matthew Kelley, b. Sept. 29, 1891

Marquis Lafayette (also seen as Marquis D. L.) Kelley was first found in the
Missouri census in 1860 in Hickory County, Missouri, although it is thought
his family came to Missouri earlier.  He served in the Civil War and never
fully recovered from wartime illnesses, dying in 1895.

His parents may have been James H. Kelley,  b. abt. 1791 Ireland and Sarah
Unknown, b. about 1810 in Virginia.  At any rate, this is the only other
Kelley family shown in the 1860 Hickory County Census.  The census listing
is:

James H. Kelley, 69, b. Ireland
Sarah, 50 VA
 William, 21, TN, farmer
James, 17, TN, farmer
Samuel, 12, IL

I know this is fairly limited, but just about all I know about Marquis
Lafayette Kelley.  Thank you for posting on your page.

Sarah Thompson
-----Original Message-----
From: Donkelly donkelly@grovenet.net
To: Clif and Sarah Thompson thompson@beaverisland.k12.mi.us
Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kelley family


Perhaps an indirect connection. My Marcus was born about 1855 in Atlanta.
His father was Doctor Jesse R (Richardson) Kelly who was born 1833
Habersham
County, GA.
Jesse was one of five sons of Hiram (Hyrum) Kelly who was born 1787 in
Burke
County NC.

His five sons were Hiram Jr., Joseph, Benjamin, Andrew J., and Jesse and
Andrew
stayed in GA. Family history is that they had McGee and Kelly kin in
Tennessee. Hiram Sr. had several un-named as yet brothers. Far as we can
tell, they didn't go to GA, but were not found in NC, so they could have
gone to TN.

Hiram Sr. with Jesse and Joseph and Marcus moved to Arkansas 1858. Hiram
Jr., Benjamin and Andrew J (Jackson) stayed in GA. This is the second
Marcus
I have seen in the Kelly line and they did repeat the names. They were
named
after Lafayette who was on our side during the war of 1812.

That branch of the family was one of thirteen Kelly/Kelley families that
lived in the whole state of VA between 1750 and 1775. One of those families
moved to KY. We don't know about the other eleven families.

Give me more information and I will post it to the Most Wanted Kelly page.

Don

----- Original Message -----
From: "Clif and Sarah Thompson" thompson@beaverisland.k12.mi.us
To: donkelly@grovenet.net
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 8:46 AM
Subject: Kelley family


 Don, I just saw your note on the Kelley-list with regard to Marcus
Lafayette
 Kelley and am hoping that we are cousins.

 My Marcus (Marquis) Lafayette Kelley was born September 1836 "near
 Nashville" and married Hannah Ritchey.  He died 1895 in Hickory County,
 Missouri where he had lived many years.  Marcus and Hannah are my
 g-grandparents.  I have more information on their children, etc., that I
 will be glad to share.

 Do we have a match here?  I certainly hope.  Looking forward to hearing
from
 you.

 

 

 


Ui  Maine (hy Many)
Descendants of Maine Mor, the fourth in descent from Coll-da-crioch one of
the ancestors of the Orighialla: the name of a great Connaught clan, whose
territory comprised part of the counties of Galway, Roscommon, Clare and
Offaly, of which O'Kelly was chief.
For more details on these families and territories see the book  "Tribes and
customs of the Hy Many" by John O'Donovan ISBN0-940134-39-X

Anne
Northumberland

----- Original Message -----
From: Macar1@aol.com
To: bob-harris@lineone.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Families of Co Galway


 Would you mind explaining the "Ui Maine"? Anita Carroll Macar1@aol.com

 


Adding to the mix:

There is a site (http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/gwhtml/gwhome.html) that has
George Washington's diary scanned and indexed.  There are a few Kellys in
index.  In Virginia, Washington attended the play, "A Word to the Wise", by
Hugh KELLY.  I highly recommend this site.

In my local library the plays by Hugh KELLY, 1739-1777, include "A Word to
the Wise", "Clementina", and " False Delicacy".  LDS has a Hugh KELLEY b.
1739 in Dublin, and Hugh KELLY b. 1739 in Lancaster, Virginia.  No parents
named.  Lancaster Hugh married abt 1765 Elizabeth WILLIAMSON.  One son, John
Kelly, born March, 1766.

Anybody familiar with this Hugh Kelly?  Did he ever come to America?  Could
Dublin and Lancaster Hughs be same person? 

Thanks,
Kathy

 


From Tipperary:

Any help linking these Irish born Kelly's welcome.    The Kelly family came
from around Annacarty, Scarrough, Ballybrack, Tipperary SR.  Sante, Vincent
Le Plastrier

DENIS1 KELLY was born 1790 in Parish of Annacarty, Co. Tipperary SR,
Ireland, and died 26 June 1872 in Quamby Brook, Westbury, Tasmania.  He
married BRIDGET MCGRATH. 
 
Emigration: 1855, Ireland to Colony of Tasmania

Children of DENIS KELLY and BRIDGET MCGRATH are:
i. JAMES2 KELLY, b. 04 August 1816, County Tipperary SR,
Ireland; d. 1879, Hobart, Tasmania.
2. ii. JOHANNA KELLY, b. 1817, County Tipperary SR, Ireland; d. 19
January 1896, Launceston, Tasmania.
iii. ELLEN KELLY, b. 1823.
3. iv. MARY KELLY, b. 05 March 1823, Scarrough, Tipperary SR,
Ireland.
v. PATRICK KELLY, b. 1825, County Tipperary SR, Ireland; d.
1855, At sea.
vi. BRIDGET KELLY, b. 14 February 1826, County Tipperary SR,
Ireland.
4. vii. MARGARET KELLY, b. 1827, County Tipperary SR, Ireland; d. 11
December 1895.
5. viii. DENNIS KELLY, b. 08 February 1832, County Tipperary SR,
Ireland; d. 17 February 1914, Quamby Brook, Westbury, Tasmania.
6. ix. JOHN KELLY, b. 21 May 1834, Annacartry Parish, Co. Tipperary
SR, Ireland; d. 25 July 1914, Calstock, Deloraine, Tasmania.


Generation No. 2

2.  JOHANNA2 KELLY (DENIS1) was born 1817 in County Tipperary SR, Ireland,
and died 19 January 1896 in Launceston, Tasmania.  She married DANIEL
DONOVAN 07 February 1837 in Ballybrack, Donohill, Tipperary SR, Ireland.  He
was born 1814 in County Tipperary, Ireland, and died 11 September 1892 in
Launceston, Tasmania.

3.  MARY2 KELLY (DENIS1) was born 05 March 1823 in Scarrough, Tipperary SR,
Ireland.  She married JOHN SMITH 17 April 1855 in Westbury, Tasmania.  He
was born 1820, and died 08 November 1892.


From: JMurnane77@aol.com [mailto:JMurnane77@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:55
To: Vincent.LePlastrier@betta.com.au
Subject: Re: [IRL-TIPPERARY]  ROLL CALL  Surnanes :
Murnan(e) / Coughli(a) n

Hi Vincent!
    Thanks for the information. Where is your Kelly family
from? I am also
researching the Kelly surname from New York State
(up-state). I do have quite
a bit on them.
    Joe Murnane


From Liscannor, Ireland


From: Inkyalfie@aol.com
To: IRL-CLARE-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 7:56 PM
Subject: [CLARE] (no subject)

      I am seeking to know about my family, the Kelly family of Liscannor.
 Following is information about my grandparents, Patrick Kelly (Liscannor)
and
 Annie Dunleavy (Ballyea Inagh), who emigrated to the US. and married in
 Cambridge, Massachusetts June 2,1915, as well as my great grandparents,
 Patrick Kelly and Ellen Considine.

  Grandfather
  Patrick J. Kelly
  Father:  Patrick Kelly
  Mother:  Ellen Kelly
  Date of Birth:  May 1, 1887
  Parish:  Liscannor
  Informant:  Ellen Kelly mother Lishune
  Source of this record: Courthouse, Ennis

  Grandmother
  Anne Dunleavy
  Father:  Michael Dunleavy
  Mother:  Bridget Dunleavy
  Date of Birth: February 18, 1887
  Parish:  Inagh and Kilnamona
  Informant:  Mary Halloran Present at Birth Upper Ballyea
  Source of this record:  Courthouse, Ennis

  Great Grandfather
  Patrick Kelly
  Father:  ?
  Mother:  ?
  Date of Birth:?
  Parish:  Liscannor (?)

  Great Grandmother
  Ellen Considine
  Father:  ?
  Mother:  ?
  Date of Birth:  ?
  Parish:  Liscannor (?)

     The brothers and sisters of my grandfather Patrick Kelly were:
Bridget;
 John (Sean Baun); Martin; Mary; Katie; Annie; James; Michael; Thomas;
 Jeremiah; Austin; Margaret; and Lizzie (Lizzie owned a variety store in
 Lisdoonvarna which she managed until shortly before her death in 1989).
 Thomas Kelly, who today lives in Ardnahea, Liscannor, is the son of
Michael
 Kelly, grandfather's brother.  Listed in Griffiths Valuation 1855 is
Thomas
 Kelly farming at Ballyfaudeen in 1840, who is possibly my ancestor.  I'd
 appreciate hearing from anyone related or anyone who knows anything of the
 Kelly family of Liscannor.  I hope the details didn't bore you too much.
I
 include them in hopes of reaching someone who knows of the Kelly family.
 Thank you.

 Karen Crimmins


From Kildare, Ireland.

  ----- Original Message ----- From: GStove9999@aol.com To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Re: subscribe&body=subscribe
 Hello,
  
 Appreciate you kind offer.  Greatx2 grndparents James POWELL and Catherine /
 Kate KELLY POWELL (b. 1849, Hacklo, Co. Kildare); both came from Co., Kildare.
 Catherine's sister Jane KELLY GIVAN BAILIE seems to have kept the family
 records as well as a portrait of their grandfather; Capt.William KELLY. 
 Their grandfather, William KELLY(abt. 1780-abt. 1858), married Catherine
 ORFORD.  His siblings included Ponsonby Moore KELLY, Waldron KELLY, John
 KELLY, Lewis KELLY, and three sisters who married an ORFORD, a HAMMELENTON
 and a TYERE.

 Parents of my Catherine KELLY POWELL were William KELLY (#2) and Alicia KELLY
 KELLY (his cousin).  Believe we corresponded with the Irish part of the
 family until about the 1950s.

 Gratefully Yours
 Cathy Stover

 

 


From County Galway TO Auckland New Zealand:   From: "Brian Kelly" bbkelly_99@canada.com To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 4:09 PM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
     NEW ZEALAND
     KELLY John, Surveyor, married Mary Coombe (from Devon) Jan 1844 in
 Auckland, New Zealand. Believed to be from Galway county his exact date
 of arrival & ship are still unknown. Birthdate believed to be c1811; he
 died after 1863 but before 1890 as Mary was a widow at the time of her
 death & last child born 1862.


  From County Donegal, Ireland TO Philadelphia, PA

From: TCall2000@aol.com To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 7:43 AM Subject: Most Wanted
 I have learned recently that my dad's maternal great-grandparents were
 Patrick Kelly and Barbara McLaughlin and they were from Country Donegal.

 Their daughter, Grace Theresa Kelly, was my great-grandmother.  When she
 married my great grandfather, John Daniel Harvey, on February 16, 1886 in St.
 Agatha's Church in West Philadelphia, she resided at 738 North 36th Street.

 Unfortunately, that's all I know.

 Terry Callen
 NJ

 


 


NOTE: 

Many citizens of Ireland suffered loss of their lands through charges trumped up by British influenced courts, and were after conviction transport to other colonies as convicts. 

Conviction in the British Courts doesn't mean they did anything wrong, certainly not proof that they stole anything. In many cases recorded by history, they just didn't show proper respect for the foriegn King who's armies dominated their every day lives. 

For that Patriotism to Ireland, their lands were stolen and they were transported. Depopulating the land was a master plan of the King, to replace disloyal subjects with loyal subjects.

One often hears about something being done to a landlord, but one rarely hears that the landlord was British, and the land he was lord over was stolen from the people who lived on the land.

========================================================================= 

 


Return-Path: KELLY-L-request@rootsweb.com

From: Mkelleyftb@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:19:54 EDT
Subject: David O'Kelley, OKelly, O'Killia etc. etc.
I have been researching the line of Richard Kelley (m to Maria Gibbs in 1775) 
for many years and have been quite stuck.  I have inquired to the 
Kelley/Kelly list several times without luck.  I have gotten nowhere until I 
went to original (and hard to read/find) records themselves.  Apparently I 
was the victim of false info and a 19th century coverup.  You see, family 
tradition has it that Richard Kelley came to America on a ship from England, 
and that he was in fact English.

Much painstaking probing has proven this story quite wrong.  Richard was in 
fact born in Barnstable, Mass. to Benjamin O'Kelley and his wife Mary (a land 
record).  As it turns out, Benjamin is the grandson of the famous (in 
Kelley/Kelly circles) Irish immigrant David O'Killia through his son Benjamin.

As most of you know, the 19th century was quite intolerant of "the Dirty 
Irish" and I believe my ancestors chose to forget about their Irish roots.  
The story was concocted that they were in fact descended from Englishman.  I 
believe that still later when my family genealogy was starting to be 
researched, the English story was uncovered, and a well meaning researcher 
attributed the "English immigrant" story to Richard since he proved to be 
quite an illusive stumbling block for info.  (In fairness to my Irish 
descended ancestors, a lot of Irish families made up the same "English 
Descent" story for survival.  Irish were banned from most establishments, and 
jobs were with held from Irish people). 

Since I am now researching David I have read several articles that have 
listed David O'Killia as the son of Mac Tiege O'Killia and Anna Daly of 
Galagn Ireland.

Thanks to Mike Kelly of Australia - I can set the record straight: his 
parents are named John McTiege (son of Tiege) O'Kelly and Anna Daly of 
Galagh, Co. Gallway, Ireland.  I now have John McTiege's pedigree back to 
Adam & Eve. 

Since I am fairly new to the David O'Killia arena, I am requesting any info 
on him and his descendants I can find.  Land Holdings, Stories, Occupation, 
Books, articles, etc..

Any help would be appreciated.  Please only reply with info or questions.

Mike Kelley

 


From County Armagh Ireland To Sydney, Australia:

  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valentine Rochfort" vrochfort@hotmail.com To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
 My gggrandfather,Hugh Kelly,was convicted of theft at the Armagh assizes in
 April 1802 and sentenced to seven years transportation to Sydney.

 He arrived on the transport "Rolla"in May 1803 and
 after serving his sentence prospered well,dying a wealthy man in 1835. The
 present day suburb of Kellyville commemorates his name.

 Kelly was described as being 65 years old at the time of his death although
 the 1828 Census of New South Wales records his age as 45.

 He had a brother Owen and named his only son Joseph which may be an
 indication of his father's name.

 Any info re the background of this family in Ireland would be much
 appreciated.

 Valentine A Rochfort
 32 Craig Avenue,
 Oxley Park, NSW
 2760 AUSTRALIA

 


County Kildare to New York City 1906:

Good Morning,
My most wanted Kelly family is that of my grandfather, Patrick Joseph KELLY.
His death certificate lists his parents as Simon Kelly and Mary Cushing.
He was born 13 March 1888, and died 6 June 1940.
His immigration/naturalization data list his place of residence as
Monastrevin, Co. Kildare, Ireland.  Departure from Queenstown, on the Umbria,
in March of 1906.
Arrived NY March 12, 1906. 
Simon Kelly was allegedly a "trainer of horses", and in fact the Curragh has
an S. Kelly, of Co Meath listed in their books of horse trainers.
I know that PJ had 2 brothers, John of Port Arthur TX and Joseph of either NY
or NJ.
I have more, but this should suffice for now.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks Patricia Snyder
Shadancer@aol.com

 


From Dublin to Meath To Australia

 

----- Original Message -----
From: James & Ann Gibney
To: donkelly@grovenet.net
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 5:46 PM
Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
ESTHER KELLY Possibly born Dublin, Ireland in 1821. Parents - PETER KELLY & MARY GAVEN (or GAVAN) Married JAMES GIBNEY at Castletown on the 15th of February 1852; witnesses for the wedding were DENIS and ANNE KELLY (Not sure of their relationship to her). They had five children, all born in Co. Meath.
RICHARD GIBNEY 1855
FEMALE GIBNEY birth year unknown.
PATRICK GIBNEY 1859
JAMES GIBNEY 1861
MARY JOSEPHINE 1864
Immigrated to Australia on June 5th 1886 on board the SS Dacca.
Died 15 October 1910   Thanks. Any help would be appreciated. Regards. James Gibney Glenfield, NSW Australia  

 



----- Original Message -----
From: Mabkerr@aol.com
To: donkelly@grovenet.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 5:49 AM
Subject: Most Wanted Kelly


 Looking for any connection to the Kelly's of Tomard, Co. Carlow.  My
 ggrandmother , Mary Ann Kelly, b.1852 (approx.), her parents,Patrick and
 Ellen (possibly Magrath) Kelly, are buried in the family cemetary at
Tomard,
 dying in 1878 &1879  respectively.

Mary Ann married Michael Ryan, b.1818 and  they were in New Haven, Ct. in
1871.  Their children were,
Mary, b.1868,  London, England;
Anne, b.1869, London, England;
Helen Teresa, b.1873 , New  Haven;
Patrick Edward , b.1876;
Agnes Marie, b.1879, New Haven, Ct.

 Thank you, Mabel Kerrigan  (MABKERR@AOL.COM)

 

  ----- Original Message ----- From: "kaykarry" kmkarry@msn.com To: donkelly@grovenet.net Cc: "Karry, Kay" kmkarry@msn.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
 My great, great grandfather MICHAEL KELLY  and wife, HONORA are listed as
 living in Barry County, Michigan (1870 MICHIGAN CENSUS RECORDS} and having 8
 children,  being born in Michigan, from 1855 to 1869.

 Michael and Honora born in Ireland:
       Michael was born abt. 1827
       Honora abt. 1836.
 The childrens names are given as Elvira (?) 15, Mary 13, Katine (?) 11,
 Thomas 9, Maggie7, Michael 5, William 3, Frank 1 and all born in Michigan.

 If I read information correctly the Michael Kelly's migrated to US somewhere
 around 1852-53.  When they moved to Michigan, I don't know.   I do know they
 had a farm and it was listed as being worth around $6,000 in 1870.

 They were Catholic and my grandfather's  full name I am told was William
 Timothy Aloysius who married my grandmother, Mary Engle in 1890.  William at
 time of marriage listed Colorado Springs, Colorado as his address.

 Would like to locate Irish roots and where and when my greatgrandfather
 died.  He  was a Chicago motorman at the time of my father's birth. They
 lived in Chicago, how long, I don't know.  His wife was left a widow with
 four sons and she raised them in Hastings, Michigan.



 

 


  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Naliboff" enaliboff@home.com To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
 Owen KELLY, born 18 Mar 1850 in Ireland, s/o Owen KELLY and unknown
 mother.  He immigrated prior to his 18th birthday and settled in St.
 Louis, married Mary (Molly) O'Brien born 1862 in Missouri, d/o James
 O'Brien and Johanna McGrath, both Irish born. Molly's only sister was
 Margaret O'Brien Boland. Owen's siblings are unknown.
 Owen and Molly's children were Eugene J., James Lawrence, John Francis,
 Mary (Mollie) and Johanna (Josephine).
 This family was meticulious about following the naming pattern so Mary
 might have been Owen's mother's name.
 Ellen Naliboff

 

 


County Armagh, Ireland

  ----- Original Message ----- From: "K.T. Kelly" ktkelly@nightowl.net To: NIR-ARMAGH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Re: Kellys and McCoys of South Armagh
 Dear Sallia,
     Please feel free to send me,whatever graveyard inscriptions,you might
 have.You could just put them,on NIR-Armagh,if you'd like.I cannot thank
 you,the Cannons,CFitz,for all your help.May the Good Lord return your
 kindness,many fold!!Kevin Kelly
  To: NIR-ARMAGH-L@rootsweb.com
  Subject: [ARMAGH] Re: Kellys and McCoys of South Armagh
  Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:11 PM
 
  There are 9 Kelly's and 1 McCoy listed in the "Guide To Creggan Church &
  Graveyard".  This is a listing of tombstone transcriptions and tombstone
  locations of this ancient graveyard located in South Armagh.
  If you would like me to send the info that I have, I'd be glad to send it
 to
  you.
 
  Sally
 
        There were many Kellys and McCoys in South Armagh especially in
    Creggan and Forkhill Civil Parishes.  You need some given names for
 your
    Kellys/McCoys to help narrow the search.
   
        Regards.....Leo J. Cannon Gainesville, Fl.
  
  
   Dear Mr.& Mrs Cannon,
  
        Many thanks for the reply! Thomas B.Kelly was b Sept
   8,1847,Co.Armagh.He died 1912,Davenport,Ia.His death certificate said
 his
   parents were James Kelly & Mary McCoy.He immigrated to New York City ca
   1868-70.He had a sister,named Mary who stayed in New York & married a
   Rosenthal?Tom moved to Wilton,Ia where he married Bridget LANTRY(her Dad
   from Dunmanway,Co Cork).Thanks to you and anyone,who might have
 info.Kevin
   Kelly
    
 
 
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  From Mayo to Philadelphia, PA 

From: "Ron Wike" rwike@InfoAve.Net To: KELLY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 12:50 AM Subject: Philadelphia Kellys
 I have John Brendan "Jack" Kelly, born 4 Oct, abt 1889 in Philadelphia,
 died June 1960.

 His father was John Henry Kelly (born in county Mayo, Ireland) no dates.
 He married Mary Costello (born Ireland) on 10/18/1852, died 9/1926 in
 Philadelphia.

 John Henry's father was Brian Kelly (born in county Mayo), abt 1804.  He
 married Honora Margaret McLaughlin, born abt 1821, died 1 May 1884.

 Any info appreciated.

 Marsha

 


From Balleinderry, Galway, Ireland c 1876:   From: "Lorraine Conroy" timlorr@warwick.net To: "Donkelly" donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 2:37 PM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
 MY MOST WANTED KELLY IS MICHAEL KELLY
 born in Ballinderry, Galway, Ireland cc 1876.
 He is the brother to my grandfather John Kelly and the son of Patrick Kelly
 and Catharine Mullen and the grandson of John Kelly and Honora Ward.
 Understand he left Ireland around 1900 and came to New York and married a
 German women. The last piece of information was in an old diary in Ireland
 that  said he was in NY 5 yrs now, and that was in 1905. Nothing is known
 after that.
 If any one feels this is familiar to them please e mail me at
 timlorr@warwick.net
 Michael Kelly's niece
 Lorraine Kelly Conroy

 

 


  Kelly from County Kilkenny, Ireland:  

From: "Michelle" marwood@hotkey.net.au To: KELLY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 7:31 PM Subject: My Kelly family
 Hi researchers,

 Just posting my Kelly family interests from Kilkenny along with my new
 web page -

 Have a great day!
 --
 Michelle in Melbourne.

 A Kelly Family - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/michmar/

 Researching:
 KELLY - Kilk to Lalbert,Vic
 DERMODY - Kilk to Lalbert, Vic
 MEEHAN - Sligo to Lalbert, Vic
 MADDEN - Richmond to Shepparton to Nth Melb, Vic
 PATTISON - Shepparton to Nth Melbourne, Vic
 LUCAS - Norfolk Is to Tas to Ballarat, Vic
 HIGGINBOTTOM - Eng to Bendigo, Vic
 PACKHAM - Eng to Bendigo, Vic
 MARWOOD - Yorkshire to Bendigo Vic (other related family's are:
           Bain,Wilson,McKay,Thomas,Clark,Minihan,Preston,Salamy,Nichols.


From Dysert, County Roscommon, Ireland To England c 1850 To Schuylkill County Pensylvania, USA:

 
----- Original Message -----
From: irish9
To: donkelly@grovenet.net
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 9:53 AM
Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
researching james kelly born aug 3 1868 in st.nicholas mahanoy township schuylkill co pennsylvania. son of john kelly and mary loyden. want info on john and mary know they camr to usa in 1863 were from dysart co roscommon, ireland lived in england from 1848 to 1863.

 

 


Margaret Kelly married Charles McCann in County Tyrone, Ireland 1848:   From: PDubwah@aol.com To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 5:48 PM Subject: Most%20Wanted%20Kelly
 My Kelly is MARGARET KELLY  who married Charles McCANN in Co. TYRONE around
 1848 town of Tulnavern.

 

 


  From County Clare 1844 to Plymouth Pennsylvania then to New York:  

From: "Michael Kelly" mjakelly@earthlink.net To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 5:51 PM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
 John Kelly born Cahircullen, Co. Clare, in 1844.  Came to America and lived
 in Plymouth, Pa.  Married Mary----who was born in New York in 1852.  Had two
 children James b. 1876 in Pa. and Michael b. 1879 in New Yorkl

 

 


  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Reiss" jackier@infi.net To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 5:57 PM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
 Bridget Kelly, bn abt 1837, Galway. m. Michael J. Kenny before 1855. First known child is Michael J.
 Kenny, bn. 12/3/1855. Other known children: John (bn. April 1868) and Mary. Bridget possibly had a
 brother named James, bn. abt 1849 in Salford, Lancashire, England. James was living at 80 King St.,
 Fanworth, Lancashire in 1881 (British Census). His family at that time included a wife, Margaret,
 three young children named James, William and Elizabeth, plus two older females, a Winifred Jackson,
 age 16, and a Mary Scott, also 16, both identified as nieces.

 Jackie Reiss

 


 
----- Original Message -----
From: kado
To: donkelly@grovenet.net
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 3:08 AM
Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
Trying to find where my g-parents came from in Ireland.James Kelly married Catherine Crosby around 1875-76. They had a daughter,Florence in 1877.They came to St. John,New Brunswick Canada in 1885. Would like to find marriage record. I know they were Roman Catholic. Any help would be appreciated.      Cathy

 


Looking for ancestors and descendants of Edward Kelly (or Kelley) who
was born in Ireland probably between 1820 and 1850.  Where he was born
in Ireland is not known.  He married Mary (surname unknown) in Ireland.
Edward and his wife had at least two children.  One was a boy who became
a Catholic priest.  The other was my grandmother, Mary Kelly, who was
born about 1873.  Mary was orphaned at an early age and was brought to
the USA (Port of NY) in 1876.  I have found records of a Mary Kelly who
came to USA as an infant on board the ship "Scythia", which arrived in
NY on May 4, 1876 from Liverpool, England.  Mary was accompanied by a
matron named Mrs. P.B. Kelly.  I assume Mrs. P. B. Kelly was a wife of a
relative of my grandmother.  In the early 1890s, Mary Kelly married
Thomas Hoary and they had eight or nine children.  To the best of my
knowledge, they always lived in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Any information on Edward Kelly, his wife Mary, or Mrs. P.B. Kelly would
be appreciated.

Ken Brickner
e-mail: brickner@homenet.lm.com


  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Kelly" kwshoes@keysdigital.com To: KELLY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 12:10 PM Subject: Malachi Kelly
 Looking for information about descendants of Malachi Kelly, probably of Co.
 Galway, whose son John and perhaps other children, arrived in Milford, MA in
 the 1850's.  John was engaged as a bootmaker in Milford, MA.  His son, James
 S. Kelly is my g-grandfather.  We are trying to establish that elusive
 connection back to Ireland, and Malachi is our best bet for doing so.

 Robert Emmet Kelly, Jr.
 --
 The Walking Shoe Store II
 335 Duval Street
 Key West, FL 33040

 

 


Looking for info on (Mac) Tiegue O'Kelley born 1619 in Galahn (Galagh?),
Ireland.  Married Anna Daly.  He may have emigrated to the U.S. with his son
David who married Jane Powell in Barnstable, Mass. in 1670 (She was from
Wales).

Also any info on Richard Kelley born ca 1750 married to Maria Gibbs?

Please only respond if you have info or questions.

Mike Kelley


From City of Tuam, Galway, Ireland.

I have a Kelly born 1777 who was later Bishop of Tuam. Perhaps your family history is correct.


 

FROM MAYO, Ireland:

This is a short version of one of my Kelly connections from Co .Mayo

Descendants of PATRICK KELLY

Generation No. 1
 1.  PATRICK2 KELLY  (EDWARD1) was b. Abt. 1817 in Carrandine, Kiltimagh,
Co. Mayo, Ire.,d. Aft. 1901 in ?.  He m. (1) Unknown Bef. 1866 in Ire.  She
was b. Unknown in ?, d. Bef. 1867.  He m. (2) ANNE MULLANY Mar. 03, 1867 in
Church of the Holy Family, Kiltimagh Co. Mayo daughter of CHARLES MULLANY.
She was b. Abt. 1831 in Cleragh, Kiltimagh, Co. Mayo d. Aft. 1901 in ?.

Children of PATRICK KELLY and ANNE MULLANY are:
+ 2 i. MARY3 KELLY, b. Dec. 13, 1867 in Carrandine, Kiltimagh, Co. Mayo, d.
?
 3 ii. HUGH KELLY, b. Nov. 1869 in Carrandine, Kiltimagh, Co. Mayo, d.
Unknown in ?.  He m. SARAH J. BEGLEY Nov. 08, 1900 in Church of the Holy
Family, Kiltimagh Co. Mayo, b. Abt. 1876 in Carrandine, Kiltimagh, Co. Mayo,
d. Aft. 1901
 4 iii. THOMAS KELLY, b. Feb. 20, 1872 in Carrandine, Kiltimagh, Co. Mayo,
d. ?
 5 iv. PETER KELLY, b. Mar. 19, 1874 in Ballinamore, Co. Mayo, d. Unknown in
?.

Generation No. 2
2. MARY3 KELLY (PATRICK2, EDWARD1) was b. Dec. 13, 1867 in Carrandine,
Kiltimagh, Co. Mayo, d. Unknown in ?.  She m. PETER BURKE Oct. 17, 1892 in
Church of the Holy Family, Kiltimagh son of PETER BURKE.  He was b. Abt.
1861 in Cleragh, Kiltimagh, Co. Mayo, d. Aft. 1901

Children of MARY KELLY and PETER BURKE are:
 6 i. HENRY4 BURKE, b. Aug. 20, 1893 in Ballinamore, Claremorris, Co. Mayo,
d.?
 7 ii. PETER EDWARD BURKE, b. Feb. 12, 1895 in Ballinamore, Claremorris, Co.
Mayo, d. ?
 8 iii. PATRICK BURKE, b. Jan. 12, 1897 in Ballinamore, Claremorris, Co.
Mayo, d. ?
 9 iv. CATHERINE BURKE, b. Jan. 09, 1899 in Ballinamore, Claremorris, Co.
Mayo d. ?
 10 v. THOMAS BURKE, b. Apr. 1901 in Ballinamore, Claremorris, Co. Mayo, d.
?
 11 vi. JOHN BURKE, b. Feb. 1903 in Ballinamore, Claremorris, Co. Mayo, d. ?
Mayo d. Unknown

+ 12 vii. HUBERT MICHAEL BURKE, b. Feb. 11, 1906 in Ballinamore,
Claremorris, Co. Mayo, d. Dec. 24, 1991 in Holy Redeemer Hosp., Phila.,
Pa..m. Annie Browne daughter of James Browne & Sarah Forkin of Kiiltimagh,
 13 viii. OWEN JOSEPH BURKE, b. June 1908 in Ballinamore, Claremorris, Co.


I'm searching for my ancestors,
Patrick Kelly and wife Nancy had a son, Malachi about 1906 in ireland.
He died on 18 FEB 1856 in Providence, Providence, RI.
He married "Catherine" and had 2 sons Michael Kelly and John E Kelly
They immegrated someplace in there, I believe about 1849.

John E Kelly Born about 1849 died on 15 FEB 1874 in Providence, Providence, RI
I don't know any more of him

Michael Kelly was born in 1842 in Ireland, He died on 29 APR 1921 in
Providence, Providence, RI.  He married Jane Donnelly on 22 Apr 1867 in
Providence. 
Children were: Malechi A Kelly , Mary Kelly, William J
Kelly, John E Kelly, Michael Kelly Jr, Thomas Henry Kelly.
 
 I'm decended thru William J.
 contact me at vivs@atmos.ucla.edu if you have any further information.
 
 Vivs


Hi all,   I've learned a bit more about our family in the past few weeks, so
here is an updated post.  I have lots more on Fitzgeralds and some other
descendants, some were railroad builders and owners, the rest were farmers. 
Anxiously awaiting "new" cousins!  Jo

Descendants of William Daniel Kelly, Sr.

Generation No. 1
1.  WILLIAM DANIEL1 KELLY, SR. was born Unknown in Ireland, and died 31
January 1896 in Cass Co., NE.  He married MARY CASEY Unknown in Unknown.
   
Children of WILLIAM KELLY and MARY CASEY are:
    i.  MARY2 KELLY, b. 21 August 1853, Elgin, Illinois; d. April 1940, St.
Elizabeths Hospital, Lincoln, Lancaster Co., NE; m. JOHN FITZGERALD, 21
February 1871, Council Bluffs, Pottawatomie Co., IA.
Marriage Notes for MARY KELLY and JOHN FITZGERALD:
Nebraska Herald, Plattsmouth NE Feb. 23, 1871, Page 4, Col. 6
We are unofficially informed that John Fitzgerald, Esq., of this city, was
married at Council Bluffs, yesterday to Miss Kelley of that place, and that
the happy couple started east on a wedding tour.  we suppose we will be
compelled to abandon the use of the chosen title of "our Fitz" now, for he is
no longer "our Fitz!" alone, but his "better half" will claim him as her own.
 We wish them long life and much joy.

Nebraska Herald, Plattsmouth NE, March 2 1871  Page 4 column 1
Married at the Catholic Church in Council Bluffs Feb. 21st by Rev. R.P.
McMenomy, assisted Rev. John A. Hayes of this city, witnessed by John
Mulqueirs and Sarah Fitzgerald.  Mr John Fitzgerald of this city and Miss
Mary Kelley of Council Bluffs.
      ii.   MICHAEL C. KELLY, b. 4 June 1855, Elgin, Kane Co., IL; d. 4
October 1920, Greenwood, Cass Co., NE; m. MARY KELLEHER.
    iii.    DANIEL KELLY, b. 3 May 1857, St. Paul, Ramsey Co., MN; d. 3
February 1940, Near Greenwood, Cass Co., NE; m. MARY JANICE WELCH, 27
December 1888, Greenwood, Nebraska.
    iv. MAGGIE KELLY, b. Abt. 1860, St. Paul, Ramsey Co., MN.
    v.  JOHN KELLY, b. Abt. 1862, Nebraska.
    vi. WILL KELLY, JR., b. 23 October, Council Bluffs, Pottawatomie Co., IA;
d. 14 June 1899, near Greenwood, Cass Co., NE; m. MARY KELLEHER.
    vii.    THOMAS KELLY, b. Abt. 1867, Council Bluffs, Pottawatomie Co., IA.
    viii.   NELLIE KELLY, b. Abt. 1869, Council Bluffs, IA; d. 1935, Lincoln,
Lancaster Co., NE; m. ODE E. RECTOR, Abt. 1895, LIncoln, Lancaster Co., NE.

______________________________


Don, Your e-mail to Janice was spotted by a friend in Australia and sent on to me. I am Kevin Keeley and live in Louth, Lincolnshire, UK. Born Liverpool, father's family from Galway; the name was Keely in Galway and also when the family first came to Liverpool but changed to Keeley after my grandfather's death in 1911. Reason why not known but there was another Keeley family in the village as well as at least one Kelly family. McLysaght says KEALY derives  from O'Cadhla, KEELEY and KEELY from O'Caella (a Galway sept), KIELY also from O'Cadhla, Kyally from O'Caollaidhe. KEALYS in Kilkenny and Leix gradually absorbed into KELLY one of the seven septs of Leix. KELLY is from O'Ceallaigh, original derivation possibly from Irish ceallach (strife). Some immigrants to America received "new" names on arrival simply because the officials were poorly educated and could not understand the brogue of these strange people from Ireland. PETER USTINOV the British actor tells of an Ustinov ancestor being entered in error as OFSMITH. Let me know if you have not found where the various places in Ireland are. I know where Corofin is, we went to Mass there when on holiday a few years ago and could probably find the others for you. A certain irony in me living in Louth, Lincs as my Keelys were said to have orignated in County Louth Ireland before being moved west during the plantations.Many of my grandmother's family finished up in Boston, some in Philadelphia. The last of the Boston line, a Jesuit priest, died four years ago aged 93.  

 


  ----- Original Message ----- From: Pjw1212@aol.com To: KELLY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 5:40 PM Subject: John KELLY
 Hi everyone,

 I am trying to find more about my gg-grandfather, John KELLY.  He was born
 1825 in Ireland.  He was married in CT to Sarah ELLIS (b. 1831 County
 Wicklow, IRE) probably in the early 1850s.  Their children were Mary b. 1854
 CT m. ROACH;  Kate(Catherina?) b. 1855 Whitewater, Walworth Co., WI m.
 NICKERSON;  Johanna(Josephine?) b. 1856 Whitewater, never married;  William
 b. 1858 Whitewater, m. Louise LUTHER, d. 1955;  Margaret b. 1862 Whitewater,
 m. QUINN; and Sarah b. 1866 Whitewater, d. 1868.

 John KELLY d. 1868.  He, along with most of the others, is buried in St.
 Patrick's Calvary Cemetery in Whitewater, WI.  I would appreciate information
 on any of these families.  Thank you, Patty

 


 
 
From: trish To: donkelly@grovenet.net Cc: trish wally schouten Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 9:56 PM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
I am Looking For My Kelly Family who came from "Lane Place Farm",Donoghmore, Co. Tyrone. They immigrated to aust' in 1839 on the s.v.Strathfieldsaye,from Portsmouth. James Kelly and his wife Dorothea Gevin.Their children  George  James B .Hugh. Thomas. David. Robert. Mary anne. Isabella and Dorothea. James B Kelly,was probably born about 1818- 1820, He is my great Grandfather. thank you ,hope you can help                        Kind Regards, Trish.

Photo of Kelly document, text follows document.

 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Donkelly" donkelly@grovenet.net
To: "Doris A Bemis" bemisprodgy.net1@prodigy.net
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Kelly


 It is fair to say I know nothing about an Alexander Kelly from Armaugh
 County, Ireland. My Alexander Kelly was born in King and Queen County,
 Virginia in 1755. That family moved to Burke County North Carolina and
then
 in 1820 to Habersham County, Georgia. Alexander was a member (perhaps a
 Captain) in the Virginia Militia and later fought for the USA during the
 Revolutionary war.

 Now, a qualifier: There was another Alexander Kelly in Virginia born 1755
 place unknown. He also was in that war and received bounty land somewhere
in
 Tennessee while it was still part of North Carolina. His name turns up
often
 in searches, but so far, no direct connection.

 An early researcher in Virginia interviewed thirteen Kelly/Kelley heads of
 households and found that twelve were loyal soldiers of the line in 1750.
 One was a farmer (they probably all were) who moved to Kentucky.

 Hope you can connect us. I will keep trying.

 Don
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Doris A Bemis" bemisprodgy.net1@prodigy.net
 To: donkelly@engineer.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 2:27 PM
 Subject: Kelly


 Hello,
   I am from the line of Col.Alexander Kelly born in Armaugh County,Ireland
 in 1755.I would like to go back and find out more about his mom and dad
and
 brothers and sisters if I can.Do you have any info on them.

 Doris Kelly Bemis


 


_X-Message: #4
From: Ellen Hollow hollow@alphalink.com.au
To: SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [SH] STEEL, BRUGGY, O'CONNOR, HEAD, CODY,
Seeking any links or information re parents and siblings of Mary CODY born
about 1800 possibly Moyglass Tipperary married Thomas KELLY FEBRUARY 1819
Moyglass Catholic died probably in Moyglass after 1835.
--------
Hi Ellen,

This is the line you're working on.  I'm interested in the QUINN links to
this family.  Ellen QUINN's sister, Margaret, married Patrick QUINN, who was
known in the family as "The Dubliner".  Do you know anything of his family
in Co Clare?

Thanks,
Denyse Bonney in Townsville, Queensland.


First Generation
--------------------------------------------------

1. Thomas Kelly. Son of ... Kelly. He married Mary Cody, 1819. They had the
following children:

2i. John "Red" Kelly
3ii. Edmond Kelly
4iii. Thomas Kelly
iv. Mary Kelly; Born 1828.
v. Anne Kelly; Born 1831.
vi. James Kelly; Born 1835.
vii. Daniel Kelly; Born 1839.

Second Generation
--------------------------------------------------

2. John "Red" Kelly. Son of Thomas Kelly & Mary Cody. Born 1820. Died 1866.
He married Ellen Quinn, daughter of James Quinn & Mary Ann McCluskey, 1850
in St Francis Church, Lonsdale St, Melbourne, Victoria. Born 1832. Died 1923.
They had the following children:

i. Mary Jane Kelly;
5ii. Anne Kelly
iii. Edward "Ned" Kelly; Born 1854. Died 1880 by hanging.
6iv. Margaret Kelly
v. James Kelly; Born 1859. Died 1946.
vi. Daniel Kelly; Born 1861. Died 1880.
7vii. Catherine "Kate" Kelly
8viii. Grace Kelly

3. Edmond Kelly. Son of Thomas Kelly & Mary Cody. Born 1822.
Children: i. Patrick Kelly; Born 1851. Died 1902.

4. Thomas Kelly. Son of Thomas Kelly & Mary Cody. Born 1825.
Children: 9.i. Michael John Kelly

 Third Generation
--------------------------------------------------

5. Anne Kelly. Daughter of John "Red" Kelly & Ellen Quinn. Born 1853. Died
1872.
She married Alexander Gunn, 1869. Born 1842. They had the following children:

i.Ellen Gunn; Born 1870. Died 1871.
ii.Anne Gunn; Born 1871. Died 1873.

6. Margaret Kelly. Daughter of John "Red" Kelly & Ellen Quinn. Born 1857.
Died 1896. She first married William Skillion, 1873. Born 1849. They had the
following children:

i. Ellen Skillion; Born 1875. Died 1897.
ii. James Skillion; Born 1877.

She second married Thomas Peter Lloyd, son of John Lloyd & Catherine Quinn.
Born 1857. Died 1927. They had the following children:

i. Anne Lloyd; Born 1881. She married Russell Cook.
ii. Edward Lloyd; Born 1882.
iii. Catherine Lloyd; Born 1883. Died 1916.
iv. John Lloyd; Born 1885.
v. Mary Lloyd; Born 1887. She married Edward Statesworthy.
vi. Maude Lloyd; Born 1888. Died 1978. She married Albert Murphy.
vii. Lillian Lloyd; Born 1890. Died 1981. She married Albert Hayes.
viii. Rose Lloyd; Born 1891. She married Edward Rogan.
ix. Mildred Lloyd; Born 1892. Died 1975. She married Alfred Galliger.
x. Albert "Sonny" Lloyd; Born 1894.

7. Catherine "Kate" Kelly. Daughter of John "Red" Kelly & Ellen Quinn. Born
About 1863. Died 1898. Death Cause Drowned In Forbes Lagoon .. Aged 36 Years.
She married William Henry Foster, 1888. Born 1867. Died 1946. They had the
following children:

i. Frederick Arthur Foster; Born 1889. Died 1916.
ii. Gertrude Eileen "Ada" Foster; Born 1890. Died 1924. She married Douglas
A Cavanagh, 1910. Born 1887. Died 1955.
iii. Arthur Douglas Foster; Born 1891. Died 1891.
10iv. Ethel Maude Foster
v. Ruby Ellen Foster; Born 1897. Died 1897.
vi. Catherine Foster; Born 1898. Died 1898.

8. Grace Kelly. Daughter of John "Red" Kelly & Ellen Quinn. Born 1865. Died
1940. She married Edward A Griffiths. Born 1862. Died 1939. They had the
following children:
11i. Sarah Ann "Ellen" Griffiths
ii. Albert Griffiths; He married Ethel Summers.
12iii. John George Griffiths
13iv. Walter Griffiths
v. Peter Griffiths; Born 1903. Died 1975. He married Doris Martha Goudie,
1933. Died 1987.
vi. Joseph Griffiths; Died 1988. He married Leonora "Nancy" Ronke.
14vii. Leslie Griffiths
viii. Adelaide Griffiths; She married John Whitehead.


9. Michael John Kelly. Son of Thomas Kelly. Born 1857. Died 1895.
Children:

i. Patrick Kelly;

Fourth Generation
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10. Ethel Maude Foster. Daughter of William Henry Foster & Catherine "Kate"
Kelly. Born 1895. Died 1955. She married Albert Hibbert. They had the
following children:

i. Grace Hibbert

11. Sarah Ann "Ellen" Griffiths. Daughter of Edward A Griffiths & Grace
Kelly. Born 1890. Died 1976. She married John Westman, 1908. They had the
following children:

i. Grace Roma "Mary" Westman
15ii. Agnes Carmel Westman
iii. John "James" Westman
iv. Lawrence Edward Westman
v. Margaret Adelaide "Peggy" Westman

12. John George Griffiths. Son of Edward A Griffiths & Grace Kelly. Born
1894. Died 1960. Children:

i. Joan Griffiths
ii. Roma Griffiths

13. Walter Griffiths. Son of Edward A Griffiths & Grace Kelly. Born 1896. He
married Margaret McAuliffe, 1920. They had the following children:

i. Olive Griffiths
ii. Patricia Griffiths
iii. Eileen Griffiths
iv. Cathleen Griffiths
v. Margaret Griffiths
vi. Walter Griffiths
vii. Michael Griffiths
viii. Paul Griffiths
ix. Patrick Griffiths

14. Leslie Griffiths. Son of Edward A Griffiths & Grace Kelly.

He married M Kearney.
They had the following children:

i. "Buddy" Griffiths
ii. Michael Griffiths

 


Spot of Irish history

This was on one of my mail lists. There was discussion about this,
awhile back, hope it is of interest to some of you.   CJ


 From: Jerry Kelly jerrykelly@worldnet.att.net
 Scoil Gaeilge Ghearid Tibn / Gerry Tobin Irish Language School
 Babylon, New York
 
 Hi, I saw some of the discussion on Black Irish in America
 http://www.msstate.edu/listarchives/afrigeneas/199810/msg00625.html
 
 and thought I might be helpful.
 
 When Irish in Ireland talk about 'Black Irish', they're talking about
 the Irish in southwest Ireland who are really tall, big boned, have pure
 white skin, and raven black hair.  The ones with blue or green eyes
 typically belong to a tribe called the Fir Bolg ('Men of the
 Thunderbolt', named after an ancestor-god), also known as the Belgii.
 They left their name on Belgium, some places in Britain and some places
 in Ireland.  The ones with brown or hazel eyes typically belong to a
 tribe called the Šrna ('Descendants of Šr, another ancestor-god whose
 wife Šire gave her name to Ireland).  My wife and her brother belong to
 a branch of the Šrna called the Dl gCais ('Descendants of Cas', another
 ancestor-god/hero).  Most scholars date the arrival of the Belgii and
 Šrna in Ireland to about 500-200 B.C., predating the Spanish Armada by
 as much as 2000 years. You can stand certain Belgians side by side with
 Kerrymen and you can't tell the difference.
 
 Other Celtic tribes in Ireland include 1) the Laighin ('Broad Spears')
 who are typically tall, thin-boned blondes, and 2) the Fni ('Nobles'?)
 who are the little, wiry, freckled leprechaun-looking redheads.  Celtic
 Ireland was not a homogeneous genepool like Japan.  It was made up of
 several Celtic invasion groups who had their own distinctive physical
 traits.  They shared culture, not genes.  Even in modern Ireland out in
 the country these traits survive because the descendants of the tribes
 still live in their ancestral tribal territories.  You can often tell
 where complete strangers come from in Ireland just by looking at them.
 
 Sorry to confirm Jim Beall's belief that the Spanish Armada contributed
 nothing to the Irish genepool.  Certain parts of Ireland went into
 rebellion in 1580-1585.  Those territories were genocided.  In 1588,
 Ireland was completely prostrate under English rule.  Survivors in the
 rest of Ireland obeyed English orders to slaughter shipwrecked Spanish
 sailors without question.  Thousands made it to shore only to to be
 murdered on the beaches.  One clan chief up on the coast of Mayo earned
 the name Suibhne na dTua ('Sweeney of the Axes') for his 'valor'.  Not
 our finest hour.  Nobles were turned over to English authorities for
 execution or ransom.  English garrisons and patrols were everywhere,
 aided by local Irish clans desperate to survive.  A few Spanish were
 spirited out of the country to Scotland, but very accurate and complete
 Elizabethan records from the period demonstrate that none survived in
 Ireland.
 
 With regard to the Irish in the Caribbean, Jim Beall is again correct
 that there was a voluntary migration to the Carribbean in the 1620s and
 1630s.  But Ireland went into rebellion again in 1641 concurrently with,
 and taking advantage of, the beginning of the English Civil War.
 Migration to the Americas seems to have been stifled in the 1640s by the
 war.  But in the 1650s, with Puritan victory, tens of thousands of
 Gaelic-speaking Irish were dispossessed of their lands.  Then, having
 been deprived of any means of self-support, they were arrested under an
 Elizabethan law which permitted the arrest and sale of 'idlers',
 'beggars', and 'vagabonds'.  By this sleight of hand, the dispossessed
 were 'legally' sold into slavery in the Carribbean, Virginia, and New
 England by the Puritan government under Oliver Cromwell.  Land and
 slaves were the spoils of the Puritan war.  Puritans merchants reaped
 the reward.  "To Barbardoes someone" became a verb.  Estimates of the
 number sold vary between 30,000 and 200,000.  Cromwell's own
 surgeon-general estimated 100,000 in one year alone.  Captured towns
 were executed or sold en masse at Cromwell's whim.  Others were taken by
 raiding parties called 'preys' and 'presses'.  As an example, here's an
 extract from the government records of Galway for 1652:  "Upon an
 information of Colonel Stubbers, governor of Gallway, of the multitude
 of vagabonds and idlers in the country, he obtained an order to ship
 them to Barbados, whereupon there was such a press that that many
 housekeepers going to see their cattle and their children (were) sent
 abroad, and all others that were enlisted in the contribution book, so
 that there was 2,000 persons sent and sold there as slaves..."  (P.
 Walsh's review of Galway City records published as 'An Account Of The
 Town Of Galway', Journal of Galway Archaeological and Historical
 Society, Volume 44, 1992, pps. 47-118)
 
 Irish slaves and African slaves intermarried all over the Carribbean.
 Certain islands like Montserrat remained Gaelic-speaking through the
 19th century.   Encounters between Gaelic-speaking Irish sailors on
 English ships and Montserratan natives were surprising and sometimes
 comical.   One 19th century story has the Montserratan natives kidding
 the Irish with the Gaelic equivalent of "that's funny, you don't look
 Irish."  Another documented encounter has dockside Montserratan natives
 reciting Gaelic bardic poetry describing Cork as 'Corcaigh na gCuan'
 ('Cork of the Harbors'), a literary description of Cork not heard since
 the 17th century.  The Irish who were sold into slavery were the
 dangerous Irish - the nobles, the free, the great number of 'swordsmen'
 (petty nobles), the literate of what had been until Cromwell's time the
 most literate nation of Europe, the 'Island of Saints of Scholars.'  A
 friend of mine from Barbados is named Colin Roche, undoubtedly descended
 from a 'swordsman'/kinsman of the Viscount Roche, Baron of Fermoy.  No
 surprise that Gaelic Ireland's literary arts survived in the Carribbean
 while the Irish back home were ground down into the peasantry and
 deprived of the right to speak or write their own language.  In our own
 time, a little girl from Montserrat walked up to a friend of mine (a
 Gaelic teacher) about 20 years ago and recited Gaelic poetry taught to
 her by her grandmother.   The spark still flickers.
 
 Hope this is helpful.  Best regards to you and for your research.
 
 Sincerely,
 JERRY KELLY
 Scoil Gaeilge Ghearid Tibn / Gerry Tobin Irish Language School
 Babylon, New York


Hope someone is working on the Walter Kelly family. Walter was born in
County Kildare, Ireland between 1720 and 1735. He came to America in
1751. His wife was Elizabeth. He died 1773 or 1774 in Kanawha Valley,
West Virginia. Some of his children were born in Pittsylvania County,
Virginia. Children were: Walter Jr., James and a daughter, maybe more.
Carolyn
csclark@galstar.com

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----- Original Message -----

From: Plewie@aol.com To: KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 11:43 AM Subject: [KELLEY-L] Utah Silver Mines
 My g-grandfather, PATRICK KELLY, and at least two of his brothers, DENIS and
 JOHN emigrated from Co. Kerry, Ireland, in 1879.

 Family lore has it that they went to work in the silver mines in Utah. I have
 Patrick's citizenship intent , dated 1861, and his citizenship certificate,
 dated 1866, (Patrick also bought a farm in Massachusetts in 1886) both from
 Summit Co., Utah, so I assume family lore is correct. I have found a small
 amount of info on the silver mines that were active during that time. 

 My questions are: Does anyone know of solicitations that may have gone out to
 young Irish men to attract them to work in these silver mines? Does anyone
 know of publications that may lend info on silver mining during this period?
 Would anyone know of what port they generally might have arrived in to work
 in Utah in 1879? I know this year of arrival, but don't know where to begin
 to look for a port of arrival.  I find it curious that Pat & Denis ended up
 in Massachusetts after their 5 or 6 year stint in Utah, and John ended up in
 Chicago.

 Any and all help with these questions is much appreciated. Thank you!
 Patsy

Searching for information about a 2nd Gr-gf, Patrick KELLY, b. Ireland,
no date known, d.--???  Not buried with his wife (see below)

Married to Mary DOLAN, b. abt. 1823-1833, Ireland, county unknown; d. 1890,
Old Allegheny/Allegheny City; buried St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery,
Lawrenceville, PA.

Patrick and Mary had 2 known children, a son Patrick KELLY, b. 1852,
Pittsburgh, PA, d.--?, and Mary Anna KELLY, b. 1854, Pittsburgh, PA, d. 1908,
Pittsburgh, northside (my greatgrandmother). 

Have researched censuses for 1850-1870, to no avail.

Any help, insight, or information greatly appreciated.

Marybeth Corrigall
ACMBJC@aol.com


I am Looking for the Children of John Kelly, List below is the info I have
already Collect, Looking for wife and Children, Plus addition date and
locations. John is Barb's 4th Great-Grandfather

Descendants of John Kelly

1  John Kelly b: Abt. 1789 England / Scotland
...... 2  John Alexander Kelly b: December 29, 1821 Ohio d: July 19, 1885
Huggins,Texas County, Missouri
.......... +Mary Janete Hinchcliff b 1: August 08, 1834 Williamson County,
Illinois b 2: August 08, 1834 Franklin County, Illinois m: August 09, 1849
Williamson County, Illinois d: January 22, 1913 Home of son J. J. Kelley,
Oakdale, Antelope County, Nebraska
...... 2  William Kelly b: Abt. 1826 Ohio d: August 11, 1856 Williamson
County, Illinois
.......... +Palina Ann Wiley m: November 04, 1840 Williamson County,
Illinois
...... *2nd Wife of William Kelly:
.......... +Emily Sisney Father: William Sisney Mother: Elizabeth ??? b:
Abt. 1828 Kentucky m: July 07, 1847 Williamson County, Illinois

Bob and Barb
RLDalton@Email.Msn.Com


Looking for info on John Kelly, born approx. 1750 in Ireland.  Came to
America in 1775.  Landed in NC, married Anna Hunter (need verification of
marriage) received land grant for land in what would be Greene Co. TN  after
fighting in American Revolution.  Had at least 3 sons by first wife:  John
Jr.(born 1776), Andrew and Joseph.  Remarried around 1800 and had several
other children.  I have evidence of second marriage but first still eludes me!
Kelley Rimer


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A Look into 1600's Ireland

Leitrim Ireland Queries A new message, "The O'Donnell Brothers from Larkfield, Manorhamilton," was posted by Jean Rice on Sat, 11 Dec 1999
Surname: O'Donnell, Hamilton, Montgomery, Lane-Fox, Fox
The message reads as follows:
Did you know that two young brothers from Larkfield, Manorhamilton, John O'Donnell (1712-1784) and Con (Karl) O'Donnell (1715-1771) entered the military service of Austria, the greatest power in 18th century Europe, and eventually rose to the highest rank in the Imperial army, that of Field Marshall.

Some history - The descendants of the O'Donnells, Earls of Tyrconnell, had gradually migrated from Co. Donegal to various locations in Connaught during the course of the hundred years after the "Flight of the Earls" in 1607. One of the main branches of the family settled in Larkfield, Manorhamilton in the early 1700s. The first of this line was Hugh O'Donnell (1691-1754) who was considered head of the O'Donnell clan and adopted the title "Earl." He married Flora Hamilton of Convoy, Co. Donegal, and they had two sons John and Con. (Con was later known as Karl, in Austria). Flora died in 1716, the year after Con was born, and Hugh later married Margaret Montgomery of Derrygonnelly by whom he had four children.

The Treaty of Limerick followed the second seige of that city in 1691 - the year that Hugh O'Donnell of Larkfield was born. According to the Treaty, Irish soldiers were to be indemnified for all past crimes and offenses. Catholics were to be restored to their estates and allowed freedom of worship. Civil and military positions were to be open to them. Unfortunately, in truth, no attempt was made to adhere to this Treaty. Instead, a penal code was exercised with renewed vigor! No Catholics could enter Parliament, the army or the important professions. All education was barred to Catholics and they could not purchase land.

Consequently, when Hugh O'Donnell first came to Larkfield, he was only able to obtain a lease on a holding on the Lane-Fox Estate. However, as the years passed, the O'Donnells seem to have ensured undisputed possession by marrying members of the Ascendancy families. Since there were very few prospects, however, for the sons of Catholics in Ireland during the Penal Laws, Hugh's two eldest sons, John and Con, accepted their uncle General John Count Hamilton's invitation to join him in Austria. Thus, they became members of that group known as the "Wild Geese" - Irish soldiers of fortune who freely (or as victims of political strife) left Ireland during the 17th and 18th centuries and joined the armies of France, Spain and Austria.


I have been researching the line of Richard Kelley (m to Maria Gibbs in 1775) for many years and have been quite stuck. I have gotten nowhere until I went to original (and hard to read/find) records themselves.
Apparently I was the victim of false info and a 19th century coverup. You see, family tradition has it that Richard Kelley came to America on a ship from England, and that he was in fact English. Much painstaking probing has proven this story quite wrong. Richard was in fact born in Barnstable, Mass. to Benjamin O'Kelley and his wife Mary (a land record). As it turns out, Benjamin is the grandson of the famous (in Kelley/Kelly circles)
Irish immigrant David O'Killia through his son Benjamin. As most of you know, the 19th century was quite intolerant of "the Dirty Irish" and I believe my ancestors chose to forget about their Irish roots. The story was concocted that they were in fact descended from Englishman.
I believe that still later when my family genealogy was starting to be researched, the English story was uncovered, and a well meaning researcher attributed the "English immigrant" story to Richard since he proved to be quite an illusive stumbling block for info. (In fairness to my Irish descended ancestors, a lot of Irish families made up the same "English Descent" story for survival.
Irish were banned from most establishments, and jobs were with held from Irish people). Since I am now researching David I have read several articles that have listed David O'Killia as the son of Mac Tiege O'Killia and Anna Daly of Galagn Ireland.
Thanks to Mike Kelly of Australia - I can set the record straight: his parents are named John McTiege (son of Tiege) O'Kelly and Anna Daly of Galagh, Co. Gallway, Ireland. I now have John McTiege's pedigree back to Adam & Eve.
Since I am fairly new to the David O'Killia arena, I am requesting any info on him and his descendants I can find. Land Holdings, Stories, Occupation, Books, articles, etc.. Any help would be appreciated. Please only reply with info or questions.


From: Patrick To: donkelly@grovenet.net Subject: Most Wanted Kelly Dear Cousin, Don't we have a great family! I too, am tracing my place in the Kelly, O'Kelly, Mac Caellaigh Clan.
The earliest Kelly of our line I can trace is Walter ? KELLY born somewhere between 1715-1730 in the Village of Timahoe in County Kildare, or possibly moved from County Galway. He and his brother Timothy came from Ireland, , ca: 1735-1750 possibly via Barbados, through Pittsylvania County, Virginia, settling in South Carolina in the mid 1750's.
He and his wife Sadie (or Elizabeth) were in Greenbriar County North Carolina before they founded Kelly's Creek in Kanawha County West Virginia in 1773. Walter Kelly was scalped and killed by the Shawnee Indians in 1774.
His youngest daughter was kidnaped by the Shawnee, but his other daughter (or possibly Timothy's), Rachel KELLY, escaped and lived to be the grandmother of General U.S. GRANT.
His son was James KELLY, (1760-1840), of whom I know little, but that he fathered William KELLY b. 1787 d. 1813, whose son was; Judge James M. KELLY, b. February 8, 1818, d. April 15, 1899, the patriarch of the southwest Missouri Kelly clan.
He was barely 20 when be became Sheriff of Perry County Tennessee, he became an attorney by the time he married Polly RANDEL Kelly (b. December 1, 1818 d. August 8, 1908) on July 19, 1936.
They moved to Rocky Comfort, MO in 1853 where he became a Presiding Judge, and member of Missouri State Legislature He and his wife thirteen children: William Jasper KELLY, b.1837;
Amos Newton KELLY, b. 1840;
Rowan Marion and Rebecca Ann KELLY, b. 1843;
John Milton KELLY, b. 1845;
Nancy Jane KELLY, b.1850;
George Riley KELLY, b. 1853;
Henry Boone KELLY, b. 1855;
Sarah Elizabeth KELLY, b. 1857;
Mary Caroline KELLY, b. 1859;
Allison Woodville KELLY, b. 1861;
Ulysses Sheridan KELLY, b. 1865;
and my great grand father, James Mathis (Matthews) KELLY, b. 1848 d. 1925. He was also an attorney, his sons include:
Clarence Kelly;
Edgar Kelly;
and my grandfather, James Newton (Newt) KELLY, b. 1867 d. 1948.
Young Newt Kelly headed west to Wyoming. During a poker game at a saloon in Baggy WY, a fight broke out involving the famous (or infamous) Tom Horn and Newt's little brother Edgar. Newt stepped in and had the dubious honor of out-drawing Tom Horns' famous gun with a knife, slashing him up so badly that they left him for dead and fled to the "Hole in the Wall" country. Tom Horn survived but when he was hanged a few years later you could still see the scar Newt had left on his throat.
Newt returned to Missouri and married Minnie SCOTT. d. 1942. They had Artie Isabel Kelly, b. 1904 d. 1993;
Meda Ruth KELLY, b. 1906 d. 1908; Thomas KELLY; and my father, James Jesse KELLY, b. 1917 d. 1992; who married my mother Latitia Belle
I was born Patrick Star KELLY in 1955. I am so pleased to be part of such a great family as ours. I'd love to swap notes and stories with you. There is so much about us I don't know. Maybe together, we can connect the dots! How 'bout you? Vayan con Dios, Patrick Star Kelly pskelly@gte.net



Still seeking information on my g-grandfather, a William Alexander Kelly, born in Galway in 1846. Perhaps since the last time I posted this, some new member might have what I'm looking for.
According to the 1880 census, William lived in the 1st precinct of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, occupation coal miner.
Wife was Elizabeth (Condren), age 29 who was born in Pennsylvania, but whose parents were both born in Ireland.
Children of William A. and Elizabeth were
Agnes b. 1867
Marcia(?) b. 1868
Mary b. 1870
Thomas b. 1871
John b. 1875
Elizabeth (my grandmother) b. 1876.
The 1900 census shows a William A. Kelly age 54 (born March 1846) married 27 years, as someone who was living with his son John J. Kelly, b. Nov. 1875, age 24, in Borough (?) Township in the town of Duquesne in Allegheny Co. PA. William A's occupation was Hotel Proprietor and his son John's was Bartender. According to this record -- and if it is the same person as above -- William A. immigrated (presumably with his parents) in 1856.
I would be grateful for information on the death date of William A. as well as any information on the his parents -- i.e., names, siblings, birth and death dates, place of birth in Ireland, etc.
Thanks,
Jeffrey Gibson
Jeffrey B. Gibson 7423 N. Sheridan Road #2A Chicago, Illinois 60626 e-mail jgibson000@ameritech.net



From: Joe kelly To: donkelly@grovenet.net Sent:
Subject: Most Wanted Kelly
seeking information on john kelly born dysart, co roscommon 183o married mary loyden 1847 went to england 1848 stayed there till 1863 then went to usa.served in union army.was coal miner in mahanoy city schuylkill co pennsylvania, around 1870 then disappears.his son james born aug 3 1866 at st nicholas schuylkill co penn.any information will be helpful.joe


From: Shelby & Jim Bauer Subject: Kelly; Ireland/Pittsburgh
Interested in establishing contact with anyone who might be researching the following Kelly line of Ireland/Pittsburgh:
Descendants of Edward Kelly
1 Edward Kelly* b: Abt. 1790 in Ireland d: Abt. May 1855 in Pittsburgh Pa . +Catharine Griffen b: Abt. 1802 in Ireland m: December 02, 1833 in St. Patrick, Pittsburgh, PA. d: February 25, 1882 in Pittsburgh Pa
..... 2 John Kelly** b: December 18, 1834 in Pittsburgh, Pa. d: September 13, 1913 in Pittsburgh Pa
......... +Catherine F. Doyle b: Abt. 1840 in Butler County, Pa. m: Abt. 1866 d: June 28, 1879 in Pittsburgh, Pa.
............. 3 Edward Kelly b: Abt. 1867 in Pittsburgh, Pa. d: Abt. August 1875 in Pittsburgh, Pa.
............. 3 William A. Kelly b: December 14, 1869 in Pittsburgh, Pa. d: Unknown
............. 3 Mary Bertilla Kelly b: October 29, 1871 in Pittsburgh, PA d: September 04, 1945 in Pittsburgh, PA
................ +August Frederick Bauer b: June 02, 1868 in Allegheny City, Allegheny Co., PA. m: September 02, 1895 in St. Peters Church, Pittsburgh, Pa. d: December 21, 1939 in Pittsburgh, PA
............. 3 Stella M. Kelly b: December 1872 in Pittsburgh, Pa. d: February 1955 in Pittsburgh, Pa.
............. 3 Clemie Kelly b: Abt. 1877 in Pittsburgh, Pa. d: Unknown
............. 3 John C. Kelly b: February 03, 1877 in Pittsburgh, PA d: Unknown
............. 3 Infant Kelly b: Abt. June 1879 in Pittsburgh, Pa. d: Abt. June 1879 in Pittsburgh, Pa.
..... 2 James Kelly b: May 14, 1838 in Pittsburgh Pa d: October 1914 in Pittsburgh, Pa.
..... 2 Edward Kelly b: August 05, 1841 in Pittsburgh Pa d: Unknown
Notes:
* Edward Kelly's occupation was shown in Pgh. city directories in the 1840's as tavernkeeper/innkeeper in the area of Seventh St.
** John Kelly was a principal in the plumbing business Weldon & Kelly located at 404 Wood St. from the 1870's until his death in 1913.
The family attended St. Patrick's R.C. Church in the early years.
Some family members are buried in St. Mary's Cemetery in Pgh.
Please reply privately to jimbauer@att.net



From: Leonard Livernois
Subject: Kelly, Gavin
I am looking for anyone connected to the following people:
Eliza Kelly born Nov 2 1867 Clara, Kings, Ireland mother Anna Gavin father Patrick Kelly
James Kelly born Sep 19 1869 Clara Kings, Ireland mother Anna Gavin father Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly born Jan 27 1872 Clara Kings Ireland mother Anna Gavin father Patrick Kelly
Ellen Kelly born Jan 22 1865 Clara Kings Ireland mother Anna Gavin father Patrick Kelly
The Patrick kelly innmy family married Anna Gavin in Manchester Cathedral Lancashire England in 1851. They had a daughter Hannah born ca 1851and a son William birthdate unknown.
If anyone has any information on any of these folks I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. i would like to find out if all of these people are the same family.
thanks Pat



From: Leonard Livernois
Subject: Kelly, Gavin
I am looking for anyone connected to the following people:
Eliza Kelly born Nov 2 1867 Clara, Kings, Ireland mother Anna Gavin father Patrick Kelly
James Kelly born Sep 19 1869 Clara Kings, Ireland mother Anna Gavin father Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly born Jan 27 1872 Clara Kings Ireland mother Anna Gavin father Patrick Kelly
Ellen Kelly born Jan 22 1865 Clara Kings Ireland mother Anna Gavin father Patrick Kelly
The Patrick kelly innmy family married Anna Gavin in Manchester Cathedral Lancashire England in 1851. They had a daughter Hannah born ca 1851and a son William birthdate unknown.
If anyone has any information on any of these folks I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. i would like to find out if all of these people are the same family.
thanks Pat


From: Rodney Goodwin
Subject: John Kelly, MN
Seeking ANY information on the John KELLY family of Minneapolis Minnesota. John was born in Ireland settled in Minneapolis, St. Paul area. Children by first wife (Mary,or Margaaret ?) Frank W. KELLY, who worked at the Western Weighting and Inspection Bureau, Chamber of Commerce in Minneapolis, Jay and Mike KELLY one of whom I think was the postmaster in Minneapolis, Aurelia KELLY who married a HUGHES, Annie KELLY who married a TUOHY, Mary KELLY who married a KRANZ and Lewis W. KELLY who left home at 14 and died 1937 in Arizona. All these children lived in he Minneapolis area in 1937. John KELLY married a second time name of wife and any issue unknown. Have hit a BIG brick wall.
Sincerely ,Donna


Subject: James Kelly/Ann Shortel
Looking for siblings of James Kelly & Ann Shortel. James: born early 1830's reportedly in Cork, Ireland. Ann: born about 1836 in Ireland. They were married in 1858 in Jo Daviess County, IL. Ann died in 1907 in Jamestown, ND. James might have come to U.S. around 1848. Since most families back in the 1800's were rather large, I must assume each had brothers & sisters. Anyone have relatives where these names appear?
Harold Kelly Harold


From: D J Pennington
E-Mail
I think I started something. This is the information I have.
My father, D D Kelly, is the fourth child of Samuel James Julie Maude (Chatman) Kelley. My father was born in Jonesboro, TN.
My grandfather, Samuel James Kelley, was the son of William Hannah Reedy Kelley of Washington County, Tennessee. Grandpa was born April 24, 1892.
When my grandparents passed away, they were living in Hawkins County, Church Hill, Tennessee.
I know my uncles and aunts but I have no information of who my fathers aunts and uncles were.
Thanks for being interested, Donna Jo Kelly Pennington Looking for Pennington, Davis, Berry, Wright, Hudson, Kelley (Kelly), Chatman


From: D J Pennington My father's family is Kelley - east Tennessee area. After joining the service, he found out on his birth certificate he was Kelly. It was too late to change so we are Kelly. I think out of a family of 7 children (plus my father has a twin sister who is Kelley) there were 3 children with Kelly.
We don't have a problem. We just know it started way back. Donna Kelly Pennington


Christopher P Kelley wrote: I was reading through past messages from the list a little while ago when I came across the large spelling discussion from March, and a question became evident to me. My family's version of the Kelley/Kelly schism (for want of a better term) says that a distant relative got mad at the family and left, changing his name from "Kelly" to "Kelley." I don't doubt the story's authenticity, but the question is whether this is isolated to our group only, or if its a legend back through the ages. Comment on the "rebel ancestor" theory is invited. Chris Kelley ckelley84@juno.com


From: Robert Kelly Wanted: Malachi Kelly of Co. Galway, early 1800's. Malachi is recorded as father of John Kelly, who emigrated to Milford, MA in 1840's or 1850's and was employed in the shoemaking industry. John was father of James S. Kelly, who started the Kelly Shoe Mfg. Co. in Milford, MA in the late 1800's (1890's). Malachi is our link to our Kelly lineage in Ireland. Bob Kelly -- The Walking Shoe Store II 335 Duval Street Key West, FL 33040 (305) 292-2722


From: brickner To: Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 7:46 AM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly Looking for ancestors and descendants of Edward Kelly (or Kelley) who was born in Ireland probably between 1820 and 1850. Where he was born in Ireland is not known. He married Mary (surname unknown) in Ireland. Edward and his wife had at least two children. One was a boy who became a Catholic priest. The other was my grandmother, Mary Kelly, who was born about 1873. Mary was orphaned at an early age and was brought to the USA (Port of NY) in 1876. I have found records of a Mary Kelly who came to USA as an infant on board the ship "Scythia", which arrived in NY on May 4, 1876 from Liverpool, England. Mary was accompanied by a matron named Mrs. P.B. Kelly. I assume Mrs. P. B. Kelly was a wife of a relative of my grandmother. In the early 1890s, Mary Kelly married Thomas Hoary and they had eight or nine children. To the best of my knowledge, they always lived in Brooklyn, N.Y. Any information on Edward Kelly, his wife Mary, or Mrs. P.B. Kelly would be appreciated. Ken Brickner e-mail: brickner@homenet.lm.com


From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 3:00 PM Subject: Most Wanted Kelly Looking for information about THOMAS J. KELLY born 1866 in Palmerston County Dublin. he came to the states in 1880 according to th 1900 census for Indian Territory now Oklahoma he was a naturalized citizen. in 1900 he married Sarah(Sally) Elizabeth Catherine Hamby in Ft Smith Arkansas sept 6th he was working for the RR the Frisco Line when they met and married. they moved about quite a bit and for the most part were associated with RR work the last know message from Thomas was a note to my Grandmother that he was sick and staying in the usual place in Ft. Smith. I have not been able to determine where Thomas came into the states or what ship he came on. My grandmother shows up on the 1910 Colorado Census as a Widow so somewhere between 1904 when he sent the note and 1910 something happened to Thomas and sofar I have not been able to find anything about him anywhere so if someone has any information I would be very appreciative my e mail address is jwade65128@aol.com


From: Subject: kitson Hello Don came across your site by chance, my surname is Kitson, grandfather Stanley, lived in Wonford area of Exeter, Devon, UK until 1980's - am not getting success with my surname in England but it seems to crop up in Ireland - Co. Clare - any info would be much appreciated , Thank you Carole Kitson


From: Benjamin B Smith Subject: Most Wanted Kelly Alexander Kelly, born 1750, County Armagh, Ireland. Brought to America in infancy. Lived Greenbrier, VA. Enlisted as Revolutionary soldier July 9, 1776, taken prisoner at Germantown Oct 4, 1777. Moved to Tennessee, Lt. Col. of Knox County Regiment. Elected senator from Blount County, March 28, 1796, reelected Sept 18, 1797. Received 3,000 acres on Tennessee River in 1824, Sequatchie Valley. Drowned in Sequatchie River soon after arrival. Son, Col. John Kelly, Born Jun 2, 1779, died Nov 26, 1845, at Kelly's Ferry, TN. married Apr 8, 1798 to Nancy Mayo, in Monroe County, TN.


From: Ellen Hollow Subject: Most Wanted JOHN KELLY
JOHN KELLY married ELENORA HEAD 16 Jan 1799 Killenaule R.C. Clonbrogen TIPPERARY IRELAND Parents and siblings of both parties and any further details unknown. Issue THOMAS KELLY born about 1800 Married MARY CODY 1 Feb 1819 in Killunaule Clonbrogen Tipperary Ireland. Mary CODY was born about 1798 parents unknown.

Their Children 1. JOHN KELLY baptised 20 Feb 1819. Baptism Ref 2 January 1814 -10 August 1827 Register of the parish of Killenaule & Moyglass Transported VDL Australia1841 as per "Prince Regent." Arrested 1 January 1841. Convicted of theft two pigs Cashel Quarter Sessions. Sentance deportation 7 years VDL. AUSTRALIA Departed Dublin August 1840 as per ship "Prince Regent " Arrived Hobarton Tasmania 2 Jan 1841.
Marriage Registration Early Church Records No 983.Ellen Quinn Marriage certificate signed John Kelly and The Mark of Ellen Quinn. St Francis R.C. Melbourne Death Registration Deaths in tthe district of Avenel in the colony of Victoria. No 9485 / 27December 1866. John Kelly Dairyman Male aged 45 years.
2. EDMUND /EDWARD KELLY baptised 10 Jul 1822 Baptism Killenaule & Moyglass Diocese Migrated Port Phillip Victoria Australia 1857 on ship MALDON.Single male 35 years. Catholic. Neither Reads or writes No marriage found in Vic Tas NSW Australia
3.THOMAS KELLY baptised 14 nov 1825 . He remained in Ireland. Possibly died as an infant? 4.MARY KELLY baptised 3 Nov 1828 .Migrated Port Phillip Victoria Australia. 1857 on ship MALDON.Single female 28 years. Catholic. Neither Reads or writes. No marriage found in No marriage found in Vic ,Tas, NSW Australia
5.ANNE KELLY (Maryanne Annie)baptised 16 Jul 1831 Migrated Port Phillip 1857 on ship MALDON. Single female 24 years. Catholic. Neither Reads or writes Married James/ John Ryan in Melbourne 1858 died Benalla Victoria Australia 1818.
6.JAMES KELLY baptised 30 Aug 1835 Register of the parish of Killenaule & Moyglass Diocese of Cashel& Emly Migrated Port Phillip 1857 on ship MALDON.Single male 22 years. Catholic. Neither Reads or writes. No marriage found in Vic ,Tas, NSW Australia
7.DANIEL KELLY Baptised 3 Feb 1839 Register of the parish of Killenaule & Moyglass Diocese of Cashel& Emly National .Migrated Port Phillip 1857 on ship MALDON.Single male 18 year No marriage found in Vic ,Tas, NSW Australia
I wonder if anyone has any information on these TIPPERARY Kellys which may be related to the above family including: possible other siblings to my Thomas b 1800, John b 1805, Patrick b 1807, Edward b1809 Family were born in another parish as they are not on the Killenaule Baptisms, and remained living in Moyglass Patrick Kelly married Elizabeth HAYES 1837 probably Moyglass. Might be a
sibling to my Thomas. Also seeking any family information and links to Elenora Head and Mary Cody as well as the parents and siblings to the earliest mentioned John Kelly Thanks in advance Ellen Hollow


Don - I found your name and email address at usgenweb site. Do you have any information on Alexander Kelly b. 1755 of Greenbriar, Va. I have his birthplace as Armagh Co., Ireland. I have his wife as Nancy Robinson. I have their issue as being 6 in number and I am descended via their son John. Thanks for any additional info that you may have. Jody Raulston Loyd lewslodge@aol.com


I see two listings for Jonathan Kelly in Tyrone from the IGI British Isles site. They are: Jonathan KELLY Born: 1801 Tyrone, Ireland Father: Jonathan KELLY Mother: (Not listed) Batch number: 8022837 Sheet: 18 Jonathan KELLY Christened: Feb 1797 Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland Father: Thomas KELLY Mother: Anne Batch number: C700701 Their birth years are not that far apart. I guess you'd have to check them both out in order to be able to rule one out. Who knows, maybe they're cousins? Altogether there are 23 Jonathan Kelly listings (Includes KELLEY variant), those two in N. Ireland, several listings in Dublin and some in England. I'll check for Sarah Bates in a few minutes. Hope this is helpful. Gloria


I have a family story. My great-great grandfather Peter Kelly was living in Ireland and studying to become a priest, when one night on a trip to a tavern he lost his short Irish temper and in a brawl accidently killed. I wondered where there may be information on this, and to find out it's accuracy. He found himself eventually in NewBrunswick Canada and married Jane McClane (No date given), he had my great-great grandfather in NewBrunswick on March 30, 1850, who died in Germania Township, MN on March 9, 1917 Thank you Lisa


The 1860 Census for Schenectady, New York, lists a family grouping that may be my ggg grandfather, Michael KELLEY, age 47, born about 1813 in Ireland. He married a Bridget ? born about 1820 in Ireland. His occupation is listed as Blacksmith. There are six children. The first three were born in Ireland, and the last three were born in Schenectady, NY. There was also a male, blacksmith, age 47 named Meichael FARRELL living in the household. Could this be a brother of the wife Bridget ? The children were: Meary KELLY, born 1842, Ireland John KELLY, born 1843, Ireland Michael KELLY, Jr., born 1845, Ireland Stephen KELLY, born 1844 - 1848 in Schenectady, NY (If this is the correct gg grandfather he married Mary KENNY and I have all the descendants. My family was Catholic and we are told came from Rosscommon County in Ireland) Peter KELLY, born 1851, Schenectady, NY Winnefred KELLY, born 1853, Schenectady, NY Any information would be appreciated. Kathryn Kelly Murray


I am searching for a JOHN__(?)___KELLY born in Ireland (date unknown). He was one of six brothers brought to America by their father (name unknown). Mother of brothers was dead. Brothers were carpenters and brick masons. John (who may have been the youngest of the brothers) married a SUSANNAH POWELL (nee NAYLOR?) JOHN and SUSANNAH moved to Kansas. It is not known how many of their children were born there (although it is known that JOHN ELIAS KELLY -- my grandfather -- was born in Kansas). At some point they started back to West Tennessee in a (covered wagon) where JOHN had previously settled and married SUSANNAH when he was age 40. JOHN ___?___KELLY died in Joplin, Missouri and was buried there. SUSANNAH brought her children back home to Tennessee, Lauderdale County. JOHN ELIAS (b.20 June, 1878) in Kansas married SALLY ANN MILLER (b.28 June, 1873 in Murfreesboro, TN) They settled in Lauderdale County, Tennessee and had 11 children, one of whom was my mother. Any help in developing this KELLY line would be sincerely appreciated. Oral history said that JOHN___?___ and his five brothers drifted apart after they lived in the America for a while. They may have entered through a Philadelphia port, but I do not know this to be a fact. Kay McDonagh KMcdon8376@aol.com


Alexander Kelly, b. County Armagh, Ireland, ca. 1750, d. 1824, Marion County, TN. Brought to American in infancy, Lived Greenbriar, Virginia during Revolution. Enlisted July 9 1776, taken prisoner at Germantown, Oct. 4, 1777. After war moved to TN, Lt. Col. of Knox County Regiment (name on muster roll Aug 27, 1794) Elected senator from Blunt Country, March 28, 1796, re-elected Sept 18, 1797. Received 3,000 acres on Tennesee River in 1824, Sequatchie Valley. Drowned in Sequatchie River soon after arrival. One male child, Col. John Kelly, b. Jun 2, 1779, d. Nov 26, 1845 at Kelly's Ferry, TN. Spouse Nancy Mayo, m. Apr 8, 1798, Monroe County, TN. Information about Irish origins most wanted.


Researching James KELLEY b abt 1833 Ireland, m Margaret CANNON in Cincinnati Ohio 9 April 1855. Children were : Edward b 1858, John b 1860, Elizabeth b 1862, Eleanor b 1866, Eugene b 1868, Daisey b 1871, Joseph b 1873, Marcella b 1875 and Robert b 1878. In 1874 James KELLEY lived on Linn St. (ward 15) in Cincinnati, in 1880 on Clinton St. (ward 8) and was a policeman and in 1890 lived on Ellen St. (ward 1). I am trying to find where in Ireland he was born, when he came to the U. S. and the names of his parents. I have not been able to determine a death date or aquire a death certificate. There seems to be no reference for James KELLEY in the Cincinnati City Directory after 1890 although I find references for his sons after this date. If someone can help with the information I need, I would be most appreciative. Lynn Sammysmamy@aol.com


Thomas Kelly b.11-25-1844, Limerick, Ire. son of Michl Kelly & Bridget Siston, came to US at age 7 to live with only brother Michael & wife Mayme. at Cohoes, NY Was in Civil War from Troy NY 12th NY Batt. was prisoner at Andersonville. He was only 16, a weaver, when he enlisted Nov 1861, discharged June 14, 1865. He went west after war, married Lydia Ellen Kenton at St. Joseph, Mo 9-24-1877 settled in Steele City, Ne. until his death 2-25-1929. Had 5 children Mary Emma(Mrs. Harm )Rucker, Charles d. at age23 of typhoid fever, Anna (Mrs. Frank) Crincklaw she spent 5 years visiting relatives in Amsterdam, NY 1893-1898, Myrtle( Mrs. Ralph)Liebengood, twin and Gertrude (Mrs. Ed) Hicks. twin. . Emma was my grandmother and corresponded with relatives in NY but no one remembers who or where. Would like any information , have all dead ends as anyone knows when researching a Thomas Kelly in NY who came over after the Potato Famine knows.Thanks.


Alexander Kelly, b. County Armagh, Ireland, ca. 1750, d. 1824, Marion County, TN. Brought to American in infancy, Lived Greenbriar, Virginia during Revolution. Enlisted July 9 1776, taken prisoner at Germantown, Oct. 4, 1777. After war moved to TN, Lt. Col. of Knox County Regiment (name on muster roll Aug 27, 1794) Elected senator from Blunt Country, March 28, 1796, re-elected Sept 18, 1797. Received 3,000 acres on Tennesee River in 1824, Sequatchie Valley. Drowned in Sequatchie River soon after arrival. One male child, Col. John Kelly, b. Jun 2, 1779, d. Nov 26, 1845 at Kelly's Ferry, TN. Spouse Nancy Mayo, m. Apr 8, 1798, Monroe County, TN. Information about Irish origins most wanted.


Looking for information on the following: Susan BRADLEY (born 1835 in Andstraw, Tyrone Co.) m. William LONERGAN Peter BRADLEY m. Mary KELLY (born 1810) (parents of Susan) Dennis KELLY m. Susan ? (parents of Mary) Thanks, Jerry at jjaaa5@aol.com


Jim & Patty Norlin Jan 25, 1999.

KELLY, Edward:
QUERY: Ggrandfather Edward b. Mar 1852 Co. Cork. Parents Michael Kelly and Elis Mahoney (his death cert). One family story was that at age 12 in 1864 he stowed away on a ship bounded for America. His siblings are unknown. He was m. April 1, 1877 McLean Co. IL to Mary Murphy b. June 1859 KY. Most of their descendents are documented. We would like to verify his parentage and birthplace in Ireland in hopes of finding if he had any siblings. Thanks.


Patrick & Sandra Kelly Jan 24, 1999.

KELLY, Thomas P.:
QUERY: Grandfather Thomas was born Jan 2, 1864 County Roscommon, parish of moore of moycarn, Ireland. He was the son of Patrick and Margaret Kelly. Thomas came to Waterbury, CT and died there Mar 5, 1905. He was married to Mary Kenny. Thank you.


Mag10ga@aol.com Jan 18, 1999.

KELLY's:
QUERY: Do these KELLY names / dates / places ring a bell?:

Patrick b. Clare/British Army/retired Kingston, Jamaica.
Mary b. Clare, Ireland d. Dover, England, carriage accident.
Charles b. Jan 21, 1873 Barbados, believed d. Kingston, Jamaica.
Geraldine Augusta CROSSWELL b. 1888 Port au Prince Haiti.


Peter O'Kelly Jan 16, 1999.

O'KELLY, Peter:
QUERY: Peter (O'Kelly / Kelly) b. 1751 Kilkenny, Ireland. Family landed in Annapolis, MD 1766. Lived Laurens Co. SC 1775. Married Jane Ewing. Children: Enoch L. (m. Sarah Green), Sarah (m. Zadock Adair), Ewing, John (m. Sarah George), Margaret (m. John Spinks. Lived Wilkes Co. GA 1781-82, Green Co. GA 1782-92, Laurens SC 1792-1801, Livingston, KY, 1801-1812, and d. Wilcox Co., AL ca. 1839.



Ken Jones, NH Jan 16, 1999.

KILKELLY, Patrick:
QUERY: Patrick was born County Galway, Irelend. He came to Huntingdon, PA and shortened his name to, Kelly. He served in the Civil War. His son, James Squire Kelly born in Huntingdon, PA was my ggrandfather. Any information under the names Kilkelly or Kelly would be much appreciated. Willing to share information.



Steve Kelly Jan 15, 1999.

KELLY, Michael:
QUERY: Don - I submit the following: Seeking information regarding the family of my paternal grandfather: Michael James KELLY, b. May 1, 1873 Carraghs West Townland, (1901 census says Fortaugustus Townland, Roscommon) Kiltullagh Parish, County Roscommon, Ireland; emigrated to USA in 1910 (ship unknown) d. June 23, 1964 Providence, RI. Parents were James KELLY, a tailor (legend), b. abt. 1832 and Catherine (MURRAY), b. abt. 1838. Siblings unknown. Grampa Mike m. Mary Margaret Morrison July 2, 1912, Pomfret, CT. Mary b. September 24, 1885, d. May 22, 1977, Providence, RI. Her parents in Paisley, Renfrewshire Co., Scotland were David MORRISON and Isabella (WHYTE), siblings unknown. Any info greatly appreciated.
TIA, Steve Kelly.



My gggrandfather, Jonathan KELLY emigrated to Canada from Tyrone abt 1818, settling in Quebec. There seems to be no trace of where in Tyrone he came from. Names of his seven sons, in birth order, are James, Robert, Jonathan, Thomas, George, Samuel, Joseph. He married in Canada Sarah Jane BATES who was also from Tyrone. -Colin


Am looking for the parents of my grandfather James Monroe Kelly/Kelley. James named his oldest son Marion Franklin and there are other Franklins in our family as given names. I have two lines of Kellys, since James married his cousin Mary Frances Trant whose grandmother was Rebecca Kelly born SC. Rebecca's father was Daniel Kelly supposedly from Ireland and shows in records in SC and in Warren Co., Ga in 1805 in tax records. Both the Trant/Trent and Kelly/Kelly families were in Wilkes Co. and Warren Co. at same time. James mother supposedly was named Martha and when she died James father remarried. James had brothers Thomas, John and Frank and a sister if this passed down info is correct. James father was a gunsmith and was killed by an inebriated customer. Does this have any connection with your family?


Looking for information about the origins of Martin Kelly, probably born in County Galway around 1818. He came to the US in the 1840s and settled in Portland, ME. He married in 1848 to Mary Nee (Needham) and had several children. In 1867 he moved to Lewiston, ME and stayed there until he died. His first child was Michael and next was Brian. Kathy Amoroso kathya@neis.net


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