Kentucky

Collin co. Texas Prect 1 1900 census
James Rutledge  born jan 1840 age 60 widow born Tenn father born Ala  mother
Ky
Edward Rutledge son  born Feb 1881 19 Ky  father born Tenn mother  Ky
James Rutledge son born Jan 1883 age 17    same
Catlin Rutledge daughter born Aug 1871 age 28 Widow born Ky father Tenn 
mother Ky
Catlins son Dillard born Sept 1900 Texas is this a daughter in law or 
daughter, on census
she is listed as Catlin Rutledge daughter
 
next door
Charles Rutledge born Jan 1876 age 24 Kentucky father born Tenn mother  Ky
Rebecca (wife) April 1880 age 20 born Tenn
James S. Sept 1900 3 mos old born Tex
 
next door
John Rutledge born Jue 1864 age 35 born Ky parents born Ky
Sarah E. born May 1874 age 26 born Ky parents born Ky married 9 years  mother
of 3
2 living
Charles A. Nov 1892 age 7 born Texas
 
anyone know who this family belongs
Jesse S. born Jan 1895 Texas
Bertie F. born Sept 1897 age 2 Texas
Mary E. Rutledge S-daughter born April 1881 age 19 Ky
 

Need information on Isaac Rutledge who married Ann Armstrong in Green Co. 
Kentcky
18 Dec 1797
Also was granted land  12 16 1798 on Harrods Fk Crocus Creek 200  acres.
Green Co.
Need parents and dates and children

Hi Ron,
Donovan Rutledge and I are cousins --- his gr grandfather George W Rutledge
and my gr grandfather Charles Edward Rutledge were brothers... both were
grandsons of the illusive Fountain Rutledge b in KY 1796.
Second Fountain Rutledge was Fountain Leonidus Rutledge, brother of George W
and Charles Edward. Fountain Leonidus was also a grandson of the KY Fountain
Rutledge
Third Fountain Rutledge was the actually James Fountain Rutledge b ca 1837
of TN, son of William H Rutledge and Clarissa Ann Belote.   This Fountain
Rutledge served in the Civil War from TN.  There was a descendant of this
family and I encouraged him to participate in the dna study, but so far I
don't know if he did.... his name escapes me at the present... think it was
Mark Rutledge??? but the old memory isn't what it used to be.
There are 3 of us (cousins) that still wonder about old Fountain's parentage
and hope we will someday find the answer.

Carole Gregory in CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Rutledge [mailto:owlcreek@crosstel.net]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:11 PM
To: RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE] War of 1812




Kermit,

This was Carol Brunner Rutledges husband, Donovan' line.    If I don't see a
response from him shortly, I will e-mail him and let him know about this.
Fountain hs been his brickwall for a long time now.   He may already have
the information, but I would like to make sure he is aware of this
information.

Also, I believe that at last count there were about 3 or more Fountain's
that have been found.    I don't know where all of them were located, but I
am fairly certain that Donovan's Fountain was in KY.

Ron, in the woods
owlcreek@crosstel.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kermit Rutledge" <KDRutledge@webtv.net
To: <RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: [RUTLEDGE] War of 1812



 Soldiers of the War of 1812 - KY
 Roll of Capt. Wm. Caldwell's Company, Kentucky Militia

 RUTLEDGE, Fountain, Pvt.
 Date of enlistment or appointment:  08 Feb 1815
 To what time engaged or enlisted:  07 Mar 1815


 KDR

Welcome to the hunters,If you can find a copy of,'CHOSEN EXILE', By Mary Bray Wheller and Genon Hickson Neblett.This is 'The life and Times of Septima Sexta Rutledge American Cultural Pioneer"There is lots of information on the family and all the interconnects.Another source, 'HIDDEN GLORY' Mary Bray Wheeler and Genon Hickerson Neblett.Maybe you can locate with this small information ?THE RUTLEDGE'S OF SOUTH CAROLINA.As I remember this followes some branches until about 1943..One hunter searched for several years to locate a male donor for DNA  testing.This helped me determine only one other Known for several generations.Keep up the hunt and continue maintaining the updates.  Another active poster shattered my brick wall.  This method has helped me several times.EDR
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No success stories here yet. I did most of all of my postings on my
Rutledge's-Lrootsweb.com back in May of this year, but I have not been
contacted by any Rutledge family members. Here's a little information from
those posting and what I already knew and some new information that I've
learned since then.

I found my gr-gr-grandfather Caleb W. Rutledge was living in McMinn
county,TN on the 1850 and 1860 census with wife Eliza, their children -
Elizabeth, William and Thomas. I found where he had married Eliza Ann Berry
in Claiborne County,TN in the 1840's. I also have information that he was
most likely born in Virginia about 1825. I was never able to find this
family on any kind of 1870 census.

The next time I picked up Caleb or C.W. Rutledge was on the 1880 Rockcastle
County,KY census. However, I believe that Caleb and wife moved back to
Claiborne County,TN area by the 1890's and that they must have died there
sometime in the 1890's.

Their children Elizabeth, William, Thomas, and Lula would marry and stay in
the Rockcastle, Laurel and Bell county area of Kentucky. I believe oldest
daughter Elizabeth Rutledge married William Barger and can be found on the
1880 Rockcastle county,KY census. William and his family (second wife) can
be found on the 1880 Rockcastle Co.,KY census and then again on the 1900
Laurel Co., KY census. Thomas and wife Eva can also be found on the 1900
Laurel Co,KY census. Youngest daughter Lula born about 1864 and married in
1884 can also be found in Laurel Cop., KY 1900 census.

From William's 1880 Rockcastle CO.,KY census you'll see has a son named
Charles. If you now jump to the 1910 Bell County,KY census you'll see
Charles or Charley is married and has three kids (it says 2 kids, but 3 are
listed).

Next I was able to get a 1960 obituary on Oscar E. Rutledge who was one of
the 3 kids from the 1910 Bell Co., KY census :

Oscar E. Rutledge's obituary appeared in the

Wednesday, June 22, 1960, edition of the Louisville,Kentucky
Courier-Journal, on

page 12. It read:



"Oscar E. Rutledge, 51, a foreman for the Raymond Krauth sheet-metal firm

at Baxter and Rogers, suffered a heart attack there Tuesday morning and

was dead on arrival at a hospital. Rutledge, 2125 Maple, had been ill

since October. Survivors are his wife, the former Virginia Gordon; two

sisters, Mrs. Cleo Tyrell, Mitchell, Kentucky, and Mrs. Leona Brooks,

Cincinnati, and a brother, Charles Rutledge, Albuquerque, New Mexico.

The body will be at Rafterman's, 2114 West Market, after 2 pm Wednesday."





I tried looking up email address and phones numbers.Yes, I made some
telephone calls to these area's in hope's of reaching his sibling's
family's. But no luck.

So that's where I'm at on my Rutledge's. I do know where some of them were
as late as the 1960's, but have not been able to pick up their trail from
there.

William
 

Don,

At least twice I've sent you info regarding my Rutledges and they've
never shown up on the website. I've also sent them to the list but it
appears no one on the list is related. But hope springs. . . so here
they are again:

John R. Rutledge (my 3G Grandfather), b. abt 1764, Wales or South
Carolina; d.10 Oct, 1832, Livingston County, Kentucky;  buried Lemon
Farm, near Salem, Livingston County, Kentucky. He is found on the 1820
US Census in Sandy Creek, East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana.

His daughter, Sarah Ann Rutledge, was born in abt 1789 in South
Carolina; d. 1873, Salem, Livingston County, Kentucky; buried Lemon
Farm, near Salem, Livingston County, Kentucky. Living next door to John
in the 1820 census is William Lemon who  fought with Andrew Jackson in
the War of 1812 at the Battle of New Orleans and married Sarah Ann
Rutledge on 6 Jun 1806 in East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana. She is
shown in the US Census with William in 1820 in Louisiana and in both
1860 and 1870 living with her son Elias B. Lemon in Salem, Livingston
County, Kentucky. Lemon is also spelled Limon or Lemen.

 From: "Don Kelly" <ocollaugh@comcast.net
 Date: Fri Dec 30, 2005  7:15:22  PM America/Phoenix
 To: RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
 Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE] Rutledge Association Website


 We still have a project to post our information to.

 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~donkelly/index.htm

 My new tagline address is ocollaugh@comcast.net

 Cousin Don


==== RUTLEDGE Mailing List ====
RUTLEDGE MOST WANTED - "Brick Wall" listings:
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Contact Don Kelly at donkelly@grovenet.net to add your "brick wall" ancestor.
 

Well, the Joseph Rutledge & Elizabeth Speer are my6th Grt. Grandparents.
Ron, in the woods
owlcreek@crosstel.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim R nioio" <nioio@gate.net
To: <RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: [RUTLEDGE] Henry Rutledge


I receivd this from a friend of mine and do not know much about any other
than they are not in My Indiana Rutledge line Does anyone tie in with this
family Jim R nioio@gate.net

 There is a marriage record for a Henry Rutlidge and Caty Bouler who were
 married 18 March 1819 in Clark County, Kentucky.

 Henry Rutledge was enumerated in the 1820 Cumberland County, Kentucky
 Census, page 158.
 Series: M33  Roll: 19  Page: 135
 Surname  GivenName  Age  Sex  Race  Birthplace  State  County  Location
 Year
 RUTLEDGE  HENRY                      KY  CUMBERLAND  PAOLI            1820

 Henry Rutledge was enumerated in the 1830 Cumberland County, Kentucky
 Census, page 134. It list 1 male, born 1826-1830; 1 male born 1816-1820; 1
 male born 1771-1780; 1 female born 1826-1830; 2 females born 1821-1825; 1
 female born 1811-1815; and 1 female born 1791-1800.

 Indiana Census (1840) Jefferson County, Lancaster Township, a Henry
 RUTLEDGE is listed as being between the ages of 50 and 60.  This census
 indicates that Henry and "Besty" RUTLEDGE had nine children (three males
 and six females) between the ages of one and thirty.

 Henry and Elizabeth Rutlidge are enumerated in the 1850 Jefferson County,
 Indiana Census. His age is given as 70 years and born in North Carolina.

 In the 1850 census, Henry Rutledge resided in Smyrna Township, Jefferson
 County, Indiana.  Susan Rutledge Imlay and her younger siblings were born
 in Kentucky.  This census listing included: Henry (b. ca 1780, NC) and
 Besty RUTLEDGE (b. ca 1785 VA), John Rutledge (age 34), Madilla/Matilda
 Rutledge (age 17), William Rutledge (age 18), Mary Rutledge (age 16), and
 Parcrissa Rutledge (age 11, b. Indiana).

 On 29 October 1850, Henry RUTLEDGE purchased a tract of Jefferson County
 Indiana land from James Lawler on 29 Oct. 1850 and the property was
 located near Wakefield IN.  Henry RUTLEDGE and his wife, Elizabeth
 RUTLEDGE sold forty (40) acres of their real estate to William RUTLEDGE on
 20 June 1871. Elizabeth RUTLEDGE sold 20 acres of Jefferson County Indiana
 real estate to William RUTLEDGE on 11 September 1875.

 Biographical and History Souvenir for County of Clark, 1889 (p. 277)
 states that Robert STEVENSON married first to Barbara STERRETT, and they
 had four children; Robert STEVENSON married (2) 4 May 1847 to Sarah
 RUTLEDGE of Kentucky (her parents came from Virginia).   Robert and Sarah
 RUTLEDGE STEVENSON of Jefferson County, Indiana had five children namely:
 John, George, David, Sarah and Charles STEVENSON.  The theory is that the
 Rutledge family came to Indiana about 1838 or 1839 from Kentucky.

 Surname  GivenName  Age  Sex  Race  Birthplace  State  County  Location
 Year
 RUTLEDGE  HENRY  76  M  W  NC  IN  JEFFERSON  SMYRNA TWP  1860

 A John and Mary RUTLEDGE had children named Willis (b. ca 1865) and Aura
 RUTLEDGE.  One John RUTLEDGE married Mary Jane ROWLINSON on 18 December
 1848 in Jefferson County, Indiana (MR2:410).

 Henry's parents are believed to be:
 Father: Joseph RUTLEDGE b: 1749 in Rowan, North Carolina
 Mother: Elizabeth SPEER b: ca 1751-1760 in Somerset County, Maryland


 Descendants of Henry Rutledge



 1 Henry Rutledge 1780 - 1877

 .. +Elizabeth ?Gavin/Gravit? 1785 - 1877

 ........ 2 Margaret Rutledge

 ............ +William Wynn

 ........ 2 Sarah Rutledge 1818 - 1899

 ............ +Robert Stevenson, Jr. 1815 - 1896

 ........ 2 Susanna Rutledge 1823 - 1901

 ............ +John Imlay 1822 - 1881

 ................... 3 William Imlay 1850 - 1850

 ................... 3 James Fieldon Imlay 1852 - 1929

 ....................... +Rachel Ann Tobias 1848 - 1911

 ............................. 4 John Henry Imlay 1874 - 1959

 ................................. +Lona May Muchmore 1871 - 1937

 ............................. 4 George Otto Imlay 1875 - 1973

 ................................. +Letta Spall 1881 - 1964

 ............................. 4 William Ervin Imlay 1877 - 1953

 ................................. +Myrtle Cleone Carpenter 1887 - 1956

 ............................. 4 Alpha Etta Imlay 1878 - 1976

 ................................. +William E. Schultz 1880 - 1910

 ............................. *2nd Husband of Alpha Etta Imlay:

 ................................. +Milton Foster 1882 - 1952

 ............................. 4 James Sylvester Imlay 1879 - 1934

 ................................. +Cora Bell Zimmer 1892 - 1980

 ............................. 4 Mary Zetta Imlay 1882 - 1884

 ............................. 4 Susan Emeretta Imlay 1885 - 1959

 ................................. +Otis Clayton Brown 1888 - 1961

 ............................. 4 Rosa Mae Imlay 1889 - 1957

 ................................. +Cornelius Oliver White 1878 - 1930

 ................... 3 Elizabeth Frances Imlay 1854 - 1877

 ....................... +Noah Wilson

 ................... 3 John B. Imlay 1855 - 1888

 ....................... +Serena Starr 1860 - 1941

 ............................. 4 Ida May Imlay 1885 - 1957

 ................................. +Marion Mathew King

 ................... 3 Euphema W. Imlay 1859 - 1946

 ....................... +William Robert Killey 1861 - 1921

 ............................. 4 Laura Jane Killey

 ............................. 4 Susan Elizabeth Killey

 ................... 3 Mary Jane Imlay 1861 - 1943

 ....................... +Henry L. Starr 1858 - 1910

 ............................. 4 Lula Daisy Starr 1887 - 1917

 ................................. +George Collins

 ............................. 4 Luna Belle Starr 1896 - 1927

 ................................. +Lee Childers 1891 -

 ................... 3 Manerva Susa Imlay 1866 -

 ........ 2 John Rutledge 1826 -

 ........ 2 Joseph H. Rutledge 1829 -

 ............ +Sarah Landon

 ........ 2 William Rutledge 1832 -

 ........ 2 Madilla Rutledge 1833 -

 ........ 2 Mary Rutledge 1834 -

 ........ 2 Parcrissa Rutledge 1839 -

 ............ +DeWit Clinton Walker
 

I have been a long time and lately a silent (almost) member of this list.
My elusive ancestor Fountain Rutledge (b 1796 KY) is still a big brick wall.
The connection of the Rutledge and Gamble family to Ann Mayes Rutledge
caught my eye(as it may have years and years ago and I did not have the
sense or maturity to follow the lead!) As long as my Rutledge grandmother
was living she claimed we were related (cousins) to Ann Rutledge... and if
you had ever met my grandmother, you would have known better than to
question anything she said!!  I have no idea how far back the story about
being "cousins" began, or how many "removed" figure into the equation.

In reviewing all of my records concerning Fountain Rutledge, I now find the
same Gamble families living near him in KY, IN and then in MO.  Fountain
lived in Scott Co., and Jessamine Co KY before moving to Hendricks Co IN in
1837. There are Gambles in neighboring Bourbon and Harrison Co KY and this
family are then enumerated next to Fountain Rutledge in 1850 and also in
1840 Hendricks Co IN (that census is alphabetical so neighbors are not
obvious.) Josiah Gamble (b 1777 VA) purchased land in Hendricks Co IN and
moved his family there ca 1830 from Bourbon Co., KY... Fountain purchased
land in Hendricks Co IN 1837... coincidence or family following
family....cousins???

We know that sons of George and Nellie (Gamble) Rutledge came to America -
now it stands to reason that brothers of Nellie Gamble also immigrated and
may have also intermarried with the Rutledge before leaving Ireland.  All I
have to do now is prove it!!

Any info anyone might have on Nellie Gamble would be welcome and
appreciated...

Carole in CA
 

My father's middle name is Overton.  He and all my relatives - father,
grandfather don't seem to know why.  I assumed it was for some relative or
friend.  My father, John Overton Rutledge and  Robert Emmett Rutledge were
born in Mississippi ( Roxie and Copiah county , respectively ).  Any
suggestions where the middle names are from??

Robert L.
P.S. I just found a letter from John Wesley Rutledge (lived in Texas ) to my
father.  He signed it Uncle John.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rutledge" <rutlist1@rutledges.org
To: <RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE] Edward Crockett Rutledge & KY - TN


 On 19 Jul 2005 at 12:06, John and Carole Rutledge wrote:

   I've worked my Rutledge line in Cumberland Co KY and Overton Co.TN,

 John,

 In all our discussions, I don't remember Overton Co. TN being
 mentioned.  My G Grandfather moved from Stokes Co., NC to Overton Co.
 shortly after his 25th birthday in 1858, and stayed there until 1895.

 I've looked for relatives nearby but cannot find any.   I never
 thought of looking in KY, even after our DNA showed a close match.
 Where were your relatives in KY, and at what time?

 Since my James was born in 1833, and your Joseph Sr was born in 1832
 (and was the son of a James!), do you think that their might be a
 connection there?

 Maybe back in 1858, they had a better handle on near relatives than
 we do?  :-)

 Larry-
 - Larry Rutledge
 - Houston, TX

Hi,
I am a descendant of Fountain Rutledge b 1796 KY - and have exhausted just
about all venues to find his ancestors. I know of a James Fountain Rutledge
b 1839 Wilson Co TN, son of William W Rutledge and wife Clarissa Ann Belote
and nothing I have found links the two.   I can only suppose they were named
for a man named Fountain.
That brings me to the Overton name in TN.   In researching my Rutledge
family, it so happens that one of the grandsons of Fountain Rutledge,
Charles Edward Rutledge married Eva Lee Overton (my gr grandparents) and of
course my search also included the Overton family, which is another
maddening project, especially when some believe they were originally
Howerton!
In TN, there was a Major John W.Overton,son of Waller Overton and Martha
Ragland, born in Fayette Co KY in 1791 and lived most of his life in TN.
John W Overton never married, but was at one time the private secretary to
Pres. Andrew Jackson. John was very popular in TN and died at the residence
of his brother Dabney Carr Overton 25 Mar 1853 in TN.
It just maybe that your Rutledge was named for this Overton - then again -
the Overton's were as many as our Rutledge and just about as hard to sort
through -

Carole in CA
lurking and still enjoying the banter


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Rutledge [mailto:rrutledg@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:11 PM
To: RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE] Edward Crockett Rutledge & KY - TN


My father's middle name is Overton.  He and all my relatives - father,
grandfather don't seem to know why.  I assumed it was for some relative or
friend.  My father, John Overton Rutledge and  Robert Emmett Rutledge were
born in Mississippi ( Roxie and Copiah county , respectively ).  Any
suggestions where the middle names are from??

Robert L.
P.S. I just found a letter from John Wesley Rutledge (lived in Texas ) to my
father.  He signed it Uncle John.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rutledge" <rutlist1@rutledges.org
To: <RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE] Edward Crockett Rutledge & KY - TN


 On 19 Jul 2005 at 12:06, John and Carole Rutledge wrote:

   I've worked my Rutledge line in Cumberland Co KY and Overton Co.TN,

 John,

 In all our discussions, I don't remember Overton Co. TN being
 mentioned.  My G Grandfather moved from Stokes Co., NC to Overton Co.
 shortly after his 25th birthday in 1858, and stayed there until 1895.

 I've looked for relatives nearby but cannot find any.   I never
 thought of looking in KY, even after our DNA showed a close match.
 Where were your relatives in KY, and at what time?

 Since my James was born in 1833, and your Joseph Sr was born in 1832
 (and was the son of a James!), do you think that their might be a
 connection there?

 Maybe back in 1858, they had a better handle on near relatives than
 we do?  :-)

 Larry-
 - Larry Rutledge
 - Houston, TX
 

Kate, I got most of my information on Rutledge/McKinney from Lynn
Dielman and Wilma McKinney.  Lynn said they shared much info.  Maybe
you can touch bases with them.  I think Lynn's email is: 
lynnd@adnc.com     and I believe Wilma's is:   <SIVEDETTE@aol.com
It seems to me someone I was in contact with had an Abraham McKinney in
the ancestry.  Good luck!
Marcia in CA
On May 30, 2005, at 7:45 AM, Kate Mullins wrote:

 Will the person who is related to the McKinney's talk to me about that
 family? I am a Rutledge from MS but lurk on this list a lot--not doing
 Rutledge research but like the  folks on this list.  I am looking for
 the McKinney's in TN and KY and what the tie is between the two--my
 primary family if Prather--Eleanor Prather married Abraham McKinney in
 KY and moved to MO--ring any bells?  Kate

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Paul Quesinberry [mailto:paulquesin@comcast.net]
 Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:27 AM
 To: RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
 Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE] Rutledge Family in McMinn County,TN 1850 -1860

 I have Stephen W. Rutledge married to Mary Massey.  Their daughter,
 Flora Josephine Rutledge married Meldon Price McKinney.  Their son,
 Frederick Wilson McKinney married Alice Thomas.  Their son, Elvin Harry
 McKinney (my father) married Leah Pitcher.  Their children, Charles
 Frederick McKinney (married l. Barbara Mahoney,  2. Barbara ?
 (adopted),  Dennis Lee McKinney (married Lorrita Martin),   myself -
 Marcia Sue McKinney (married Paul Quesinberry), and Marilyn Jane
 McKinney (married 1. Patrick Fisher, 2. Vincent Ford, and 3. Joseph
 Cyrus). I can give you our childrens names, etc. if you want to go that
 deep.  I also have some brothers and sisters to my grands, and
 gggrands, etc.

 My dad, Elvin, and his brother Dalton, hopped a train to come from
 Missouri to California.  My dad was born in Pittsburg, Kansas.
 On May 29, 2005, at 9:49 PM, Don Kelly wrote:

 Marcia, can I have two or three paragraphs about your grandfather and
 great grandfather?
 Thinks for helping fill this out. All the kids then all the grandkids.
 Don
 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Quesinberry"
 <paulquesin@comcast.net
 To: <RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE] Rutledge Family in McMinn County,TN 1850 -1860


 Don, thanks for sharing.  Stephen R. was my gg grandfather.  I love
 having all your research about him.  Thanks!
 Marcia in CA
 On May 29, 2005, at 9:17 AM, Don Kelly wrote:

 Good morning cousins. In case anyone missed it, there is a migration
 page for the family headed by Stephen Rutledge (my 3gfather) in
 which accumulation of birth records and other data indicates one of
 Stephen's children was born in Alabama.

 I assembled all of the information I had.....very carefully......and

 posted it at:

 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~donkelly/RUTLEDGE/Rutstates/
 Stephen_Rutledge/migration.htm

 If anyone can add to this webpage, or have any corrections, or
 better documentation, please send them on and they will be added.

 Have a great holiday.

 Cousin Don Kelly
 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Lynn"
 <bmhale@myexcel.com
 To: <RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 11:12 PM
 Subject: [RUTLEDGE] Rutledge Family in McMinn County,TN 1850 -1860


 Hi Kermit,
 I was able to take a look at the header page on ancestry.com for
 the Rutledge's in Claiborne County,TN in 1830 and 1840. But I don't

 have  a paid subscription to that site so I couldn't take a look at

 the  actual census records. So I wasn't able to make any kind of
 connection that my Caleb would be related to these Rutledge's.
 However, I'm betting that if Caleb got married in Claiborne in the

 early 1840's that he would be related to some of the other
 Rutledge's  that lived there and showed up on the 1840 census. It
 sounds like you  might be on to something with the Caleb Rutledge
 who lived in Green  County,TN in 1840. And then with a name like
 Caleb Rutledge, he could  have very well been related to my Caleb
 Rutledge. I also saw some of  those Ratleges who lived in McMinn
 County in 1850 and 1860. And I  believe you may be correct when you

 say they ended up spelling / or  leaving their name as Ratlege and
 not Rutledge. I believe that even  today, that some of them
 probably continue to spell their name as  Ratledge. We're they
 related ? The name sure sounds and looks to much  alike for it to
 be a just a coincidence, for them not to have been  related. But I
 do know that mine never changed the spelling of their  name from
 1850 and on. My Caleb Rutledge's spelled their name as  Rutledge.
 Now I can only take a guess as to when Caleb died. However,  if I
 were to take a educated guess based upon the information that I
 have, I would say it was between 1890 and 1900. For one thing,  I'm

  pretty sure that I have some information around here somewhere
 that  says that Caleb filed his civil war papers in Kentucky in
 1890.
 Thanks,Bill

 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kermit Rutledge"
 <KDRutledge@webtv.net
 To: <RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE] Rutledge Family in McMinn County,TN 1850
 -1860



 Bill, since Caleb married in Claiborne County, have you looked at
 the
 Rutledges who were there in 1830-1840-1850? According to the
 indexes,
 there were one or two families each census year.  I only found the
 index, not the transcriptions, or I would have looked, myself.
 And  if I
 remember correctly,  there were a considerable number of Hursts.

 There is a Caleb Rutledge on the 1840 Greene County, TN census.
 Too old
 to be your Caleb, but on the other hand, that is not exactly a
 common
 given name among Rutledges, so maybe something to do with a
 naming-pattern?  Also, a Benjamin Rutledge is on this census, next

 door
 to a Stephen Massey, and someone on this list has ancestors among
 those
 two families, I believe.  (Benjamin Rutledge married Mary "Polly"
 Massey).

 All those Ratlage/Ratledge/Ratlege families in McMinn County have
 me
 wondering if they were indeed Rutledges, or if they should be
 considered
 an entirely different surname.  Ordinarily, I would have suspected
 enumerator misspellings, except cemetery records also reflect the

 "Ra"
 spelling.

 Any idea where Caleb died?  Do you know if they remained in KY,
 after
 1880?


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Below is a listing from Ancestry.com.   It states that Mary M. Rutledge was
married to John Washburn.  I believe that this Mary M. is also known as Mahala
and was later married to my gr grandfather....Abner E. Smith.   Abner later
married Nancy Jane Rutledge, daughter of John and Susan Lyons Rutledge.  Can
anyone verify that Mary M. and Mahala are the same people?   Cheryl

1.  John WASHBURN was born 21 Jul 1829 in Flemingsburg,,Ky, and died 16 Aug
1891 in Heyworth,McLean,Ill. He was the son of 2. Uriah Simpson WASHBURN and 3.
Mahalia .... He married Barentha VANNALEY. She was born 1834 in ,,Ind. He
married Mary M RUTLEDGE 21 Jul 1853 in Heyworth,McLean,Ill, daughter of Thomas
Officer RUTLEDGE and Cynthia RUTLEDGE. She was born 16 Jan 1835 in
Heyworth,McLean,Ill, and died 16 Apr 1874 in Heyworth,McLean,Ill.      
 

While researching my SEE line, I was looking through a lists of marriages
from Clark county, Kentucky and seen a Jacob Rutledge who married an Elizabeth
Seares on January 9,1828.(this date of course could be the date of the marriage
license return)  It also states that surety is Isaiah Webb. (whatever that
means)
This info was found under.......marriage bonds of Clark cty, Kentucky.
1793-1850
Clark county Library
Winchester, Kentucky
I cant send a link as it came from info that was submitted on a private
website. Sorry. Hope this helps someone. Cheryl


 

Hi, Don,

I sent you these once before but since they never showed up  on the
most wanted list I thought I'd try again.

I have only two Rutledges & know very little about the father - here
goes:

My 4G Grandfather was John R. RUTLEDGE who was born abt 1764 at an
unknown place - possibly Wales or South Carolina. He died (no date) in
Livingston Co., Kentucky and is buried at the Lemon Farm Cemetery near
Salem, Livingston Co., Kentucky along with his wife for whom I have no
name. He is on the 1820 census in Sandy Creek, Feliciana Parish,
Louisiana along with William LEMON, my 3G Grandfather who married
John's daughter Sarah Ann RUTLEDGE. By 1830 he was in Livingston Co.,
Kentucky. Sarah was born in 1789 in East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana.
She married William LEMON 6 Jun 1806, East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana.
She died in 1873, Livingston Co., Kentucky and is also buried in the
Lemon Farm Cemetery. Note: my source for most of this refers to EAST
Feliciana Parish but according to the census records it's Feliciana
Parish (no East). I have quite a bit more information on Sarah but 
John is a real mystery.

Thanks for any help.

Sara Bradley Mason

Jim,
Isaac Archibald Rutledge's parents were:
Henry Rutledge  b. 1798 in Winchester, Clark, Kentucky d. 1833/1836
     in  Winchester, Clark, Kentucky and
Catherine Boulware b. 1802 ,Madison County, Kentucky d. after 1860
     prob N. Carolina
They were married 18 Mar 1819 in Clark County, Kentucky

Thanks to the assistance of many, I have quite a few lines back.  Let me
know if you would like more information.          Charlene

Charlene do you know the parents of Issac Archibald Rutledge and where they
were born,I am from IN original now live in FL but my line is John Rutledge
1801 b in Baltimore MD he came to Indiana in 1831 to Delaware CO, In and he
married had 5 kids and his wife died and he remarried and had 7 more my
e-mail is nioio@gate.net
Please let me know if you have any of this info I have been working on this
line for several years now thanks and have a good holiday.
Jim R. swimming with the mermaids

In a message dated 12/6/02 10:55:38 AM, jlroggy@essex1.com writes:

<< Welcome..... I don't know if this is going to help you any or not, but
here goes.
I checked Rachel Clemon's book on the Rutledge's and found this info. I
thought
that perhaps the Musson might have been Mason? I know that Oquawka, IL isn't
far
from where my Rutledge's lived, but I have found no connection. Let me know if
this might be your line. Jan

Thanks for that information, Jan, but I don't think it gets me any closer. I
discovered a large hunk of Rachel Clemon's genealogy on the Internet while
doing a search for my grandfather William Mason Danner. I believe she
misidentified him as "William E. Danner," rather than William M. Danner."
I've seen initials changed like that when one is trying to read notes perhaps
scribbled while looking at a microfilm reader. I tried to contact Ms. Clemon,
only to be informed that she has died. I was directed to this Rutledge group.
I can say with certainty that William Danner married Lois Elizabeth Rutledge
(1863-1943), the daughter of James Edward Rutledge (1834-1917) of Virginia,
who in turn was the son of Elijah Rutledge.

For the record I add below my grandmother's obituary as it appeard in the New
York Times in 1943. They misspelled her first name. William Mason Danner, Jr.
was my father.

Peter Danner

[From the New York Times 1943]
Montclair, N,J., Sept. 27—Mrs. Louis [Lois] Rutledge Danner, long active in
welfare work for lepers in association with her husband William Mason Danner,
former general secretary of the American Mission to Lepers, died Saturday of
a heart ailment at her home, 56 South Park St. Mrs. Danner, who was 80, was
first treasurer of the National Y.W.C.A. in 1888.
A descendant of Edward Rutledge, signer of the Declaration of Independence,
Mrs. Danner was born in Oquawka, Ill., and was a graduate of Iowa Wesleyan
College at Mount Pleasant. After her marriage, she lived for a time at
Louisville, Ky., where Mr. Danner was general secretary of the Y.M.C.A. She
had lived here since 1918.
Besides her husband, Mrs. Danner leaves two songs, Paul Rutledge Danner, who,
as manager of the Manila office of the Asia Life Insurance Company, has been
interned with his family since the Japanese attacked the Philippines; Dr.
William Mason Danner Jr., an instructor at Santa Barbara (Calif.) College,
and a daughter, Mrs. Charles A. Stender of Montclair.

Danville, Vermillian County, Illinois:   From: "Donnabritta" <donnabritta@outdrs.net Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: [RUTLEDGE] Leander Rutledge
 I have this Leander Rutledge b abt 1805. in KY living in Danville,
 Vermillion Co. IL in the 1860 census
 Donna in Oregon

  1860 census for Danville Township, Vermillion Co.,
  Illinois.  Page 25, lines 5-10, household 165, family 171:

  Leander RUTLEDGE 55...M...Cabinet Maker...KY
  W.A........................18...M............................IL
  Joseph H.................16...M............................IL
  Thomas C..................9...M...........................IL
  Bruce.........................7...M..........................IL
  Lucy H.......................3...F...........................IL

Clark County: 02/12/08

Charlene, Saw your posts re: info on Isaac and Henry Rutledge of Clark Co. KY.

Have we ever traded info on the Clark Co Rutledges..?  I don't see a record
in my file that we have....  Anyway... I have tons of stuff on these folk,
including numerous Clark Co Circuit Court documents... several for Henry and
his widow, Catherine.  A couple of these documents can be used to prove
Henry's dod as 1833... one a lawsuit filed by their children against
Catherine in 1848 which states Henry died intestate "fifteen years ago".  It
was filed in 1848.  The second a Court record in which Henry has a neighbor,
Mitchell Byrd, arrested for trespass, trampling his crops and threatening
Henry and his family with a gun.  This suit was filed in April 1833, but
dropped due to the death of Henry.

Also, I have some photos of Isaac A. Rutledge and his family with Millie
Martin Bradley.  I also have photos of his brother John P Rutledge and Honor
Aldridge, including pics of their gravesites in Middle Grove, MO.

I also have add'l info on John Sr, and several of his other children.... Let
me know if you've seen this stuff .... if not, I'd be most happy to send it
on to you.

John Rutledge in Oregon

02/12/08

hello!! i finally found my WM RUTLEDGE born 1868 in PA in the 1920
census. it says his parents were from KY.
he married my gr,grandmother ANNIE in 1898, he is my step-grandfather so
not much has been done with his genealogy.
but we have a pic of him in full Native regalia!!! it's pretty neat!! as
soon as i get a scanner i will put it on my homepage.
SO if anyone here has a RUTLEDGE from KY and they had a son WM about
1868 please contact me!!
thank you
kathy

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GERMANS-OH-STARKCO-L@rootsweb.com
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RUTLEDGE DUDLY  LIEUT. COL. NIXON'S REG'T MISSISSIPPI IL  PRIVATE   65 602
RUTLEDGE JOSEPH  LIEUT. COL. NIXON'S REG'T MISSISSIPPI MIL.  PRIVATE 65 602
RUTLEDGE ABRAHAM  7 REG'T CAV. (STREETT'S), MARYLAND MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE ALEXANDER  3 REG'T (COPELAND'S) WEST TENNESSEE MIL.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE ALEXANDER  4 REG'T (STEELE'S) W. TENNESSEE MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE ANDREW T 28 REG'T (RUTLEDGE'S) SOUTH CAROLINA MIL.  PRIVATE 65 602
RUTLEDGE BENJAMIN  1 REG'T (METCALFE'S) W. TENNESSEE MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE BLANKS  6 REG'T (SHARP'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE BLANKS  98 REG'T (GREEN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE CHARLES  1 REG'T (WYNNE'S) W. TENNESSEE MILITIA.  PRIVATE 65 602
RUTLEDGE DAVID  2 REG'T (CHEATHAM'S) W. TENNESSEE MIL.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE DAVID  4 REG'T (GREENHILL'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA.  PRIVATE   65 602
RUTLEDGE EDWARD  5 REG'T (MCDOWELL'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE EDWARD  7 REG'T, CAV. (STREETT'S), MARYLAND MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE ELIJAH  1 REG'T (HALL'S) TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS.  PRIVATE   65 602
RUTLEDGE ELIJAH  3 REG'T (ROULSTON'S) WEST TENNESSEE MIL.  PRIVATE 65 602
RUTLEDGE ELIJAH R 6 REG'T CAV. (MOORE'S), MARYLAND MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE ELISHA  13 REG'T (GRAY'S) KENTUCKY MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE EPHRAIM  41 REG'T (HUTCHINS') MARYLAND MILITIA.  PRIVATE   65 602
RUTLEDGE FOUNTAIN  7 REG'T (FRANCESCO'S) KENTUCKY MILITIA.  PRIVATE 65 602
RUTLEDGE GEORGE  75 REG'T (FEB., 1815), VIRGINIA MILITIA.  PRIVATE 65 602
RUTLEDGE HENRY  BATTALION 3 (WOODFOLK'S) TENNESSEE MIL  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE HENRY  17 REG'T (FRANCESCO'S) KENTUCKY MILITIA.  PRIVATE   65 602
RUTLEDGE ISAAC  1 REGIMENT (SUTTON'S), OHIO MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE JAMES  5 REGIMENT VIRGINIA MILTIIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE JAMES  14 REG'T (MITCHISSON'S) KENTUCKY MILITIA.  PRIVATE   65 602
RUTLEDGE JOHN  NACE'S REGIMENT, MARYLAND MILITIA.  1 SERGEANT  65 602
RUTLEDGE JOHN  42 REGIMENT (SMITH'S) MARYLAND MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE JOHN  49 REG'T (VEAZEY'S) MARYLAND MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE JOHN  BOWLING'S DETACHMENT GEORGIA MILITIA.  SERGEANT  65 602
RUTLEDGE JOHN  YOUNGBLOOD'S REG'T, SOUTH CAROLINA MIL.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE JOHN  1 REG'T (WYNNE'S) W. TENNESSEE MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE JOHN  3 REG'T (RUTLEDGE'S) SOUTH CAROLINA STATE TROOPS  LT COLONEL 65 602
RUTLEDGE JOHN  10 AND 20 CONSOLIDATED REGIMENT, LOUISIANA MILITIA.  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE JOHN E BATT'N ART'Y (DUNSCOMB'S), NEW YORK  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE JOSEPH  4 REGIMENT (BOOTH'S), GEORGIA MILITIA  PRIVATE  65 602
RUTLEDGE JOSHUA  1 RIFLE REG'T (ALLEN'S), KENTUCKY VOLS.  PRIVATE   65 602
RUTLEDGE JOSHUA  9 REGIMENT (SIMRALL'S), MOUNTED, KENTUCKY OLS.  SERGEANT  65 602
RUTLEDGE JOSHUA  13 REG'T (GRAY'S) KENTUCKY MILITIA.  SERGEANT  65 602


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Hi Carol, Wow, you really have given me something to think about! I am going to take time to digest this but after reading through everything twice, you maybe on the right track. It is hopeful and as you say it is a theory. I have always believed that the freed Charlie was not originally Fountain's or his mother's and that he, Fountain, had acquired him by his second marriage to Mary. The census of 1830 Scott Co KY does not show Fountain with any slave count. We have guessed (no record found to date) that the second marriage of Fountain was after 1830. The date of the emanicpation of Charlie is dated 17 Feb 1834, two years after the death notice of Elizabeth Allen Rutledge. Why didn't Fountain free Charlie sooner? I haven't found any Slave census rolls that list Elizabeth or Fountain as owners. Maybe Charlie was with the elusive husband and father of Fountain! On the Jessamine Co KY tax roll of 1815 & 1816, Elizabeth is taxed on 3 horses. Question: If she had a slave, wouldn't she be taxed on that also? In 1817, Jessamine Co KY tax roll, Fountain is listed on the tax roll with 3 horses. Did they list him instead of his mother and if so was it because he was an adult? After 1816, Elizabeth A. Rutledge is not listed on any census or tax roll and the only thing I have on her is that in 1825, she and son Fountain were members of the Long Lick Baptist Church and in 1832 a notice in the church records of her death. For 16 years, she wasn't with Fountain, so where was she? The will of Edmund Walker <"Edmund Walker, in his will of 1765 gave to his daughter ELIZABETH WALKER, 2 negroes, Charlie and Buck.". The land was given to the sons, slave to the daughters and granddaughters. How did our Elizabeth A. Rutledge acquire any of this Walker land? Was it by bequeath from one of this Walker family between 1765 and 1799 when Elizabeth Allen Rutledge & the two Walker women engaged Matthew William Walker to settle the sale of land in Charlotte Co VA. "From the Commissioners Deeds Jessamine County, Book A p. 18 Walker to Walker Know all men by these pesents that we Mary Walker, Elizabeth Allen Rutledge and Mary Walker (Junieress) all of the County of Jessamine and State of Kentucky have nominated appointed and ordained Matthew William Walker our local attorney in fact to negotiate all our business in Charlote County and State of Virginia particularly to sell and convey a deed in fee simple a certain tract of land lying baing (sic) and situated in the county of and state aforesaid containing two hundred and eighty acres by survey adjoining William Fears, John Carrier and Levi Blankinship and Joseph Chaffings and to do all such other things that we might or could do if we were personally present which shall be binding on us our heirs (symbol) jointly and severally forever in we have hereunto set our hands and affixed our seals this twenty fifth day of May Anno Domini 1799 Mary Walker - her mark, Elizabeth A. Rutledge - her mark Mary Walker Junss? - her mark." As you see, you have started me thinking again about these Rutledges and asking questions! You can be sure that there is more to come! cousin, Carole G in CA From: Carol or Donavon Rutledge ; Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 8:27 PM Subject: Elizabeth Allen Rutledge: theory Hello. This is a theory, only. Please let me know if you see anything in this or have an idea as to how to proceed. Travelin' John, you were so helpful... see anything here? Carole G. hope this puts hope back into the picture and Jim Small... hey, maybe we're related afterall! Okay folks... can't seem to get this all together but I cannot wait any longer... I hope I am able to reach Jim Small via the email address above, because I now believe that his ancestors may be ours, also. Read on. I will repeat a lot of information, so forgive me. And we will need to do a lot more research before we can prove any of this. For some time now, Carole Gregory and I have been intrigued by the fact that Elizabeth Allen Rutledge (mother of Fountain) inherited land in Charlotte Court House VA along with Walkers. So the primary goal in Donavon's and my trip a month ago to VA was to find out if she was a Walker or just how she was related to them. It is through her that we hope to eventually find Fountain's dad. Theory: From what we discovered, I think it is plausible that Elizabeth Allen Rutledge mother of Fountain Rutledge, was born Elizabeth Walker and that she married an Allen (perhaps David) and when he died leaving her with 5 young children, she married a Rutledge. (Chalkey Book III on wills, landsales and other court appearances, reports that David Allen died young. In David Allen's will of September 1779, his wife Elizabeth and her mother, Mary Allen inherit. So also do Robert Allen, infant; John C. Allen, infant; James Allen, infant; David Allen, infant; and Mary Allen, infant. Witnesses were John Allen and Thomas Allen.) But I get ahead of myself. First the Walker information. A very wealthy man, Edmund Walker, in his will of 1765 gave to his daughter ELIZABETH WALKER, 2 negroes, Charlie and Buck. See why this is important later on. Are you with me Carole? It appears that Edmund's children were quite young at the time of his death. Will of Edmund Walker (mother was Mary Holdcrop) Wife was Judith. They had: Edmund Townes Walker James Walker Judith Walker Hannah Walker ELIZABETH WALKER Sarah Walker Lucy Clark Walker Alexander Walker Frances Walker Grandsons Edmund Walker- Joseph Scott Walker Daughter Mary Caventon Grand daughter Mairy Caventon - Ursley Caventon _Milly Caventon Daughter Ann Clement Grand Daughter Ann Daughter Rebecca Macon In this will dated 8 November 1765, Edmund is giving away plantations (note plural) and estates (note plural) to his sons. He gives slaves to his daughters and granddaughters. Of particular interest to us is that he gives to his daughter Elizabeth Walker, 2 negros, Buck and CHARLIE. Last month, Rutledge descendants in Charlotte Court House Virginia told us that in the research they had done, they found no Rutledge's in that area who owned slaves. We told them that our Fountain Rutledge had a slave and that he emancipated his slave CHARLIE about 20 years before the civil war. HOWEVER, when we later found the above information on Edmund Walker who bequeaths a slave Charlie to his daughter Elizabeth, we began to feel that Charlie belonged to Elizabeth and not Fountain, and that perhaps the slave Charlie was from one of the Walker Plantations. I believe the emancipation of Charlie occured about the time of the death of our Elizabeth in 1835. If slavery was incompatible with Fountain's beliefs, he might have emancipated Charlie at that time. It is of course speculation, but when we struggled and struggled through the myriad of records and finally came to slave Charlie (if he is the same slave as those whose papers were found in Jessamine KY) and found him to "belong" to an Elizabeth Walker... we felt as if we had found a clue. It is fascinating to think of the slave Charlie being the person who will link us to our lost grandfather. This is the first time I have felt hopeful about finding a link to Fountain's Dad. Again: (Theory) Perhaps Elizabeth Walker (daughter of wealthy land owner Edmund Walker who willed her a slave named Charlie) married a man by the name of Allen (Allens were prominant in the CCH area of Virginia.) They might have had 5 children before Allen died. AFterwhich, Elizabeth WAlker Allen married a Rutledge. By now she is more advanced in age and therefore has only the two children, Elizabeth and Fountain. More theory. It is possible that our unknown Rutledge was William who had at least two brothers John and James and one sister Catherine (Marshall). James Rutledge had a son Edward who is the father of Rosanna, of "Rosy Ann's Bible" found in Fort Collins Co near where our people lived. Rosanna never married and died within 2 years of Fountain's birth. Her mother Sarah and her brother George inherit. George Rutledge is executor. Edward and Sarah Rutledge are the parents of this possible William. They lived on 250 acres at Flag Springs on Middle River, patent from Kerr, which property they gave to son George. Chalkey, book III. George Rutledge's land became a marker for others. As did John and Thomas' land, we frequently find markers on the lands of the oldest settlers. There is a certain amount of connection with these VA Rutledge's and South Carolina. Thomas Rutledges will of 10 October 1785 (wife Jean) gave 100 acres on Fishing Creek Branch in South Carolina to sons Thomas and Ed. I can't find my notes right now, but the afore mentioned William left (apparently for acreage in South Carolina). Information about him is scanty. Questions. Questions. Questions. Is William, son of Edward and Sarah, the father of Fountain? Did he marry Elizabeth (Walker) Allen? Or were they living together without the benefit of matrimony as people sometimes say? Is he the William whose name was crossed out and replaced with Elizabeth Allen Rutledge's name in the land ledger? If he is our elusive grand-father, why did he go to South Carolina and Elizabeth with children stay in Jessamine County, KY? Help. Help. Help. CBR


I recieved this today, hope it helps someone. I believe I have found my grandfather and great-grandfather here. From the 1900 census of Fayette Co. City of Vandalia, p.14: 258 Ruthledge, Oct 1838 61 married 27 years KY KY carpenter Mary C wife May 1850 9 children 7 living IL AL KY John C son Jun 1875 24 schoolt eacher Saml. T son Sept 1876 23 bartender Geo. M son Jun 1880 19 Jennie dau Mar 1882 18 H.P. son Apr 1884 16 T.A. son Aug 1888 11 ( all children IL KY IL ) The 1870 census shows J.B. Ruthledge age 31 born KY listed with Fernando Ruthledge ae 21 IL. and Sebastian Ruthledge age 13 IL. That record is from Sharon Twp. Any tie ins with anyone out there, please let me know. Bob Rutledge Donkelly wrote: Merry Christmas to all and to all a Happy New Year. The Kelly family.

FYI: Found these interesting and wanted to pass them on: ROCKCASTLE CO, KENTUCKY STATE VITAL STATISTICS, by Jeanne S. Bonham & Patricia H Hiatt, High Grass Publications, Greenwood IN 46142 PG 191 - BIRTHS Rutledge, Charles W. 8 May 1874 FA: Thos Rutledge FPOB: TN Male MOTH Maggie Patterson MPOB: TN Pg 226 - Births Chas W. Rutledge - 30 Apr 1878 FA Rutledge: Wm J. FPOB: TN Male MOTH: Lovina Randall MPOB Laurel, KY Pg 222- Deaths Barger, Elizabeth 1 Nov 1874 Rutledge, Caleb, pob: TN Female Mar'd Consumption Rutledge, Eliza Rutledge, Elizabeth Barger Pg 226 Rutledge, Charles W. 16 May 1874 Rutledge, Caleb, Father's BP:TN Male Infant Unknown Rutledge, Eliza Mother's BP:TN Pg 266 Rutledge, Ida Dec 1879 3/12 Fa: POB VA 1880/96/217 Croup Moth MPOB: KY JESSAMINE CO. KENTUCKY - Marriages, 1799-1850; Compiled by Bill & Kathy Vockery Page 62 RUTLEDGE, FOUNTAIN mar Finney,Judy Feb 7, 1823 RET 7 Sept 1823 Bondsman: Andrew Finney Consented: Finney, Andrew - Brother

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Gregory" To: Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE-L] Rutledges of KY ---------- From: Carol or Donavon Rutledge To: RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE-L] Rutledges of KY Date: Sunday, August 15, 1999 7:43 AM At 02:16 AM 8/15/1999 -0500, Jean Buckley wrote: FYI: Found these interesting and wanted to pass them on: JESSAMINE CO. KENTUCKY - Marriages, 1799-1850; Compiled by Bill & Kathy Vockery Page 62 RUTLEDGE, FOUNTAIN mar Finney,Judy Feb 7, 1823 RET 7 Sept 1823 Bondsman: Andrew Finney Consented: Finney, Andrew - Brother Thanks Jean! The day we found this, Donavon and I looked at each other in amazement and asked simultaneously "What happened to Mary?" We were tracing backward and knew a Mary as his wife. If the Vockerys had found a marriage between Mary and Fountain, in the late 1820s or early 30s it would have shown up in their book, right? Here is what might have happened: Fountain married Judy Finney in 1823 (fact), our ancestor John was born in 1826 (fact), Carole Gregory believes there is also a sister Elizabeth) and then sometime shortly after, Judy may have died. Perhaps in child birth? We do not have her death date nor do we have a marriage date of Fountain and Mary, but suddenly we find Fountain and Mary have a girl Mary Ann (abt 1835). To compound matters, we do not know for sure who Mary Ann married - she said James Rutledge but there is no mention of him in a thorough obituary, and her grand daughter said: "Grandma never married." Would you watch for a date for the marriage of Fountain and Mary please? Possibilities for her last name include McAlister (various spellings) and Palmer. She was born about 1796 in Pennsylvania and died in Lewis Co Mo Sept. 18, 1881. And if we could impose on you further - in your research, if you come across Judy Finney Rutledge's death notice, we would be really happy! Sounds silly to be happy over a death notice..... Thanks! CBR Hi Jean, Yes, a death notice for Judy Finney Rutledge would make us happy, a marriage for Fountain and a Mary would put us even happier! But a record of the elusive father of Fountain Rutledge would put us in orbit! Carole G in CA

From: Carol or Donavon Rutledge <rutledge@cjnetworks.com
To: RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE-L] Rutledges of KY
Date: Sunday, August 15, 1999 7:43 AM

At 02:16 AM 8/15/1999 -0500, Jean Buckley wrote:
FYI:  Found these interesting and wanted to pass them on:

<snip
J

ESSAMINE CO. KENTUCKY - Marriages, 1799-1850;
Compiled by Bill & Kathy Vockery

Page 62
RUTLEDGE, FOUNTAIN  mar Finney,Judy  Feb 7, 1823   RET  7 Sept 1823
      Bondsman: Andrew Finney    Consented: Finney, Andrew - Brother

Thanks Jean!  The day we found this, Donavon and I looked at each
other in amazement and asked simultaneously "What happened to Mary?"
We were tracing backward and  knew a Mary as his wife.  If the
Vockerys had found a marriage between Mary and Fountain, in the late
1820s or early 30s it would have shown up in their book, right? 

Here is what might have happened:  Fountain married Judy Finney
in 1823 (fact),  our ancestor John was born in 1826 (fact),
Carole Gregory believes there is also a sister Elizabeth)
and then sometime shortly after, Judy may have died.  Perhaps
in child birth?  We do not have her death date nor do we have a
marriage date of Fountain and Mary, but suddenly we find Fountain
and Mary have a girl Mary Ann (abt 1835).  To compound matters, we
do not know for sure who Mary Ann married - she said James Rutledge
but there is no mention of him in a thorough obituary, and her grand
daughter said: "Grandma never married."  

Would you watch for a date for the marriage of Fountain and Mary please?
Possibilities for her last name include McAlister (various spellings) and
Palmer. She was born about 1796 in Pennsylvania and died in Lewis Co Mo
Sept. 18, 1881.

And if we could impose on you further - in your research, if you come
across Judy Finney Rutledge's death notice, we would be really happy!
Sounds silly to be happy over a death notice..... Thanks!  CBR


Hi Jean,
Yes, a death notice for Judy Finney Rutledge would make us happy,  a
marriage for Fountain and a Mary would put us even happier!   But a record
of the elusive father of Fountain Rutledge would put us in orbit!   Carole
G  in CA



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Donkelly,
    You must be a truly wonderful person, I have seen so many of your
messages where you have given of yourself to help others. Merry Christmas
to you and all of the other Rutledges out there.
    I recieved this today, hope it helps someone. I believe I have found
my grandfather and great-grandfather here.
    From the 1900 census of Fayette Co. City of Vandalia, p.14:
            258 Ruthledge, Oct 1838 61 married 27 years KY KY carpenter
            Mary C wife May 1850 9 children 7 living IL AL KY
            John C son Jun 1875 24 schoolt eacher
            Saml. T son Sept 1876 23 bartender
            Geo. M son Jun 1880 19
            Jennie dau Mar 1882 18
            H.P. son Apr 1884 16
            T.A. son Aug 1888 11  ( all children IL KY IL )
The 1870 census shows J.B. Ruthledge age 31 born KY listed with Fernando
Ruthledge ae 21 IL. and Sebastian Ruthledge age 13 IL. That record is from
Sharon Twp.
    Any tie ins with anyone out there, please let me know.
Bob Rutledge

Donkelly wrote:

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FYI:  Found these interesting and wanted to pass them on:

ROCKCASTLE CO, KENTUCKY STATE VITAL STATISTICS, by Jeanne S. Bonham &
Patricia H Hiatt, High Grass Publications, Greenwood IN 46142

PG 191 - BIRTHS
Rutledge, Charles W.   8 May 1874   FA: Thos Rutledge  FPOB: TN
    Male                            MOTH  Maggie Patterson MPOB: TN

Pg 226 - Births
Chas W. Rutledge - 30 Apr 1878      FA Rutledge: Wm J.  FPOB: TN
  Male                              MOTH: Lovina Randall MPOB Laurel, KY

Pg 222- Deaths
Barger, Elizabeth    1 Nov 1874    Rutledge, Caleb,   pob: TN
     Female Mar'd    Consumption   Rutledge, Eliza
Rutledge, Elizabeth Barger

Pg 226
Rutledge, Charles W.    16 May 1874  Rutledge, Caleb,  Father's BP:TN
   Male Infant          Unknown      Rutledge, Eliza   Mother's BP:TN

Pg 266
Rutledge, Ida           Dec 1879   3/12      Fa: POB VA   1880/96/217
                        Croup                Moth  MPOB:  KY


JESSAMINE CO. KENTUCKY - Marriages, 1799-1850;
Compiled by Bill & Kathy Vockery

Page 62
RUTLEDGE, FOUNTAIN  mar Finney,Judy  Feb 7, 1823   RET  7 Sept 1823
      Bondsman: Andrew Finney    Consented: Finney, Andrew - Brother


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Hi Carol,
Wow, you really have given me something to think about!    I am going to
take time to digest this but after reading through everything twice, you
maybe on the right track.  It is hopeful and as you say it is a theory.

I have always believed that the freed Charlie was not originally Fountain's
or his mother's and that he, Fountain, had acquired him by his second
marriage to Mary.  The census of 1830 Scott Co KY does not show Fountain
with any slave count. We have guessed (no record found to date)  that the
second marriage of Fountain was after 1830.  The date of the emanicpation of
Charlie is dated 17 Feb 1834, two years after the death notice of Elizabeth
Allen Rutledge.   Why didn't Fountain free Charlie sooner?   I haven't found
any Slave census rolls that list Elizabeth or Fountain as owners.    Maybe
Charlie was with the elusive husband and father of Fountain!

 On the Jessamine Co KY tax roll of 1815 & 1816, Elizabeth is taxed on 3
horses. Question:  If she had a slave, wouldn't she be taxed on that also?
In 1817, Jessamine Co KY tax roll, Fountain is listed on the tax roll with 3
horses. Did they list him instead of his mother and if so was it because he
was an adult?    After 1816, Elizabeth A. Rutledge is not listed on any
census or tax roll and the only thing I have on her is that in 1825, she and
son Fountain were members of the Long Lick Baptist Church and in 1832 a
notice in the church records of her death.    For 16 years, she wasn't with
Fountain, so where was she?

The will of Edmund Walker <"Edmund Walker, in his will of 1765 gave to his
daughter ELIZABETH WALKER, 2 negroes, Charlie and Buck."  . The land was
given to the sons, slave to the daughters and granddaughters.    How did our
Elizabeth A. Rutledge acquire any of this Walker land?  Was it by bequeath
from one of this Walker family between 1765 and 1799  when  Elizabeth Allen
Rutledge & the two Walker women engaged Matthew William Walker to settle the
sale of land in Charlotte Co VA.
"From the Commissioners Deeds Jessamine County, Book A p. 18
Walker to Walker
Know all men by these pesents that we Mary Walker, Elizabeth Allen Rutledge
and Mary Walker (Junieress) all of the County of Jessamine and State of
Kentucky have nominated appointed and ordained Matthew William Walker our
local attorney in fact to negotiate all our business in Charlote County and
State of Virginia particularly to sell and convey a deed in fee simple a
certain tract of land lying baing (sic) and situated in the county of and
state aforesaid containing two hundred and eighty acres by survey adjoining
William Fears, John Carrier and Levi Blankinship and Joseph Chaffings and to
do all such other things that we might or could do if we were personally
present which shall be binding on us our heirs (symbol) jointly and
severally forever in we have hereunto set our hands and affixed our seals
this twenty fifth day of May Anno Domini 1799  Mary Walker - her mark,
Elizabeth A. Rutledge - her mark   Mary Walker Junss? - her mark."

As you see, you have started me thinking again about these Rutledges and
asking questions!    You can be sure that there is more to come!

cousin, Carole G in CA



 ----- Original Message -----
From: Carol or Donavon Rutledge <rutledge@cjnetworks.com
To: <RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com; <caroleg@prodigy.net; <jsmall@mounet.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 8:27 PM
Subject: Elizabeth Allen Rutledge: theory


Hello.  This is a theory, only.  Please let me know if you see anything in
this
or have an idea as to how to proceed.  Travelin' John, you were so
helpful...
see anything here?  Carole G. hope this puts hope back into the picture
and
Jim Small... hey,  maybe we're related afterall!

Okay folks... can't seem to get this all together but I cannot wait any
longer...  I hope I am able to reach Jim Small via the email address
above,
because I now believe that his ancestors may be ours, also.  Read on.  I
will repeat a lot of information, so forgive me. And we will need to do a
lot more research before we can prove any of this.

For some time now, Carole Gregory and I have been intrigued by the fact
that
Elizabeth Allen Rutledge (mother of Fountain) inherited land in Charlotte
Court House VA along with Walkers.  So the primary goal in Donavon's and
my
trip a month ago to VA was to find out if she was a Walker or just how she
was related to them.  It is through her that we hope to eventually find
Fountain's dad.

Theory: From what we discovered, I think it is plausible that Elizabeth
Allen Rutledge mother of Fountain Rutledge, was born Elizabeth Walker and
that she married an Allen (perhaps David) and when he died leaving her
with
5 young children, she married a Rutledge.  (Chalkey Book III on wills,
landsales and other court appearances, reports that David Allen died
young.
In David Allen's will of September 1779, his wife Elizabeth and her
mother,
Mary Allen inherit.  So also do Robert Allen, infant; John C. Allen,
infant;
James Allen, infant; David Allen, infant; and Mary Allen, infant.
Witnesses
were John Allen and Thomas Allen.)

But I get ahead of myself.  First the Walker information. A very wealthy
man,  Edmund Walker, in his will of 1765 gave to his daughter ELIZABETH
WALKER, 2 negroes, Charlie and Buck.  See why this is important later on.
Are you with
me Carole?  It appears that Edmund's children were quite young at the time
of his death.

Will of Edmund Walker (mother was Mary Holdcrop) Wife was Judith.
         They had:
         Edmund Townes Walker
         James Walker
         Judith Walker
         Hannah Walker
         ELIZABETH WALKER
         Sarah Walker
         Lucy Clark Walker
         Alexander Walker
         Frances Walker
         Grandsons Edmund Walker- Joseph Scott Walker
         Daughter Mary Caventon
         Grand daughter Mairy Caventon - Ursley Caventon _Milly Caventon
         Daughter Ann Clement
         Grand Daughter Ann
         Daughter Rebecca Macon

In this will dated 8 November 1765, Edmund is giving away plantations
(note
plural) and estates (note plural) to his sons.  He gives slaves to his
daughters and granddaughters. Of particular interest to us is that he
gives
to his daughter Elizabeth Walker, 2 negros, Buck and CHARLIE.

Last month, Rutledge descendants in Charlotte Court House Virginia told us
that in the research they had done, they found no Rutledge's in that area
who owned slaves. We told them that our Fountain Rutledge had a slave and
that he emancipated his slave CHARLIE about 20 years before the civil war.
HOWEVER, when we later found the above information on Edmund Walker who
bequeaths a slave Charlie to his daughter Elizabeth, we began to feel that
Charlie belonged to Elizabeth and not Fountain, and that perhaps the slave
Charlie was from one of the Walker Plantations.  I believe the
emancipation
of Charlie occured about the time of the death of our Elizabeth in 1835.
If
slavery was incompatible with Fountain's beliefs, he might have
emancipated
Charlie at that time.  It is of course speculation, but when we struggled
and struggled through the myriad of records and finally came to slave
Charlie (if he is the same slave as those whose papers were found in
Jessamine KY)  and found him to "belong" to an Elizabeth Walker... we felt
as if we had found a clue.  It is fascinating to think of the slave
Charlie
being the person who will link us to our lost grandfather.

This is the first time I have felt hopeful about finding a link to
Fountain's Dad.  Again:  (Theory) Perhaps Elizabeth Walker (daughter of
wealthy land owner Edmund Walker who willed her a slave named Charlie)
married
a man by the name of Allen (Allens were prominant in the CCH area of
Virginia.) They might have had 5 children before Allen died.  AFterwhich,
Elizabeth WAlker Allen married a Rutledge.  By now she is more advanced in
age and therefore has only the two children, Elizabeth and Fountain.

More theory.  It is possible that our unknown Rutledge was William who had
at least two brothers John and James and one sister Catherine (Marshall).
James Rutledge had a son Edward who is the father of Rosanna, of "Rosy
Ann's
Bible" found in Fort Collins Co near where our people lived.  Rosanna
never
married and
died within 2 years of Fountain's birth.  Her mother Sarah and her brother
George inherit.  George Rutledge is executor.

Edward and Sarah Rutledge are the  parents of this possible William.  They
lived on 250 acres at Flag Springs on Middle River, patent from Kerr,
which
property
they gave to son George. Chalkey, book III. George Rutledge's land became
a marker for others.  As did John and Thomas' land, we frequently find
markers on the lands of the oldest settlers.

There is a certain amount of connection with these VA Rutledge's and South
Carolina.  Thomas Rutledges will of 10 October 1785 (wife Jean) gave 100
acres on Fishing Creek Branch in South Carolina to sons Thomas and Ed.  I
can't find
my notes right now, but the afore mentioned William left (apparently for
acreage in South Carolina).  Information about him is scanty.

Questions.  Questions.  Questions.  Is William, son of Edward and Sarah,
the
father of Fountain?  Did he marry Elizabeth (Walker) Allen?  Or were they
living together without the benefit of matrimony as people sometimes say?
Is he the William whose name was crossed out and replaced with Elizabeth
Allen Rutledge's name in the land ledger?  If he is our elusive
grand-father,
why did he go to South Carolina and Elizabeth with children stay in
Jessamine
County, KY?

Help. Help. Help.  CBR




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Hi Carol,
Wow, you really have given me something to think about!    I am going to
take time to digest this but after reading through everything twice, you
maybe on the right track.  It is hopeful and as you say it is a theory.

I have always believed that the freed Charlie was not originally Fountain's
or his mother's and that he, Fountain, had acquired him by his second
marriage to Mary.  The census of 1830 Scott Co KY does not show Fountain
with any slave count. We have guessed (no record found to date)  that the
second marriage of Fountain was after 1830.  The date of the emanicpation of
Charlie is dated 17 Feb 1834, two years after the death notice of Elizabeth
Allen Rutledge.   Why didn't Fountain free Charlie sooner?   I haven't found
any Slave census rolls that list Elizabeth or Fountain as owners.    Maybe
Charlie was with the elusive husband and father of Fountain!

 On the Jessamine Co KY tax roll of 1815 & 1816, Elizabeth is taxed on 3
horses. Question:  If she had a slave, wouldn't she be taxed on that also?
In 1817, Jessamine Co KY tax roll, Fountain is listed on the tax roll with 3
horses. Did they list him instead of his mother and if so was it because he
was an adult?    After 1816, Elizabeth A. Rutledge is not listed on any
census or tax roll and the only thing I have on her is that in 1825, she and
son Fountain were members of the Long Lick Baptist Church and in 1832 a
notice in the church records of her death.    For 16 years, she wasn't with
Fountain, so where was she?

The will of Edmund Walker <"Edmund Walker, in his will of 1765 gave to his
daughter ELIZABETH WALKER, 2 negroes, Charlie and Buck."  . The land was
given to the sons, slave to the daughters and granddaughters.    How did our
Elizabeth A. Rutledge acquire any of this Walker land?  Was it by bequeath
from one of this Walker family between 1765 and 1799  when  Elizabeth Allen
Rutledge & the two Walker women engaged Matthew William Walker to settle the
sale of land in Charlotte Co VA.
"From the Commissioners Deeds Jessamine County, Book A p. 18
Walker to Walker
Know all men by these pesents that we Mary Walker, Elizabeth Allen Rutledge
and Mary Walker (Junieress) all of the County of Jessamine and State of
Kentucky have nominated appointed and ordained Matthew William Walker our
local attorney in fact to negotiate all our business in Charlote County and
State of Virginia particularly to sell and convey a deed in fee simple a
certain tract of land lying baing (sic) and situated in the county of and
state aforesaid containing two hundred and eighty acres by survey adjoining
William Fears, John Carrier and Levi Blankinship and Joseph Chaffings and to
do all such other things that we might or could do if we were personally
present which shall be binding on us our heirs (symbol) jointly and
severally forever in we have hereunto set our hands and affixed our seals
this twenty fifth day of May Anno Domini 1799  Mary Walker - her mark,
Elizabeth A. Rutledge - her mark   Mary Walker Junss? - her mark."

As you see, you have started me thinking again about these Rutledges and
asking questions!    You can be sure that there is more to come!

cousin, Carole G in CA



 ----- Original Message -----
From: Carol or Donavon Rutledge <rutledge@cjnetworks.com
To: <RUTLEDGE-L@rootsweb.com; <caroleg@prodigy.net; <jsmall@mounet.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 8:27 PM
Subject: Elizabeth Allen Rutledge: theory


Hello.  This is a theory, only.  Please let me know if you see anything in
this
or have an idea as to how to proceed.  Travelin' John, you were so
helpful...
see anything here?  Carole G. hope this puts hope back into the picture
and
Jim Small... hey,  maybe we're related afterall!

Okay folks... can't seem to get this all together but I cannot wait any
longer...  I hope I am able to reach Jim Small via the email address
above,
because I now believe that his ancestors may be ours, also.  Read on.  I
will repeat a lot of information, so forgive me. And we will need to do a
lot more research before we can prove any of this.

For some time now, Carole Gregory and I have been intrigued by the fact
that
Elizabeth Allen Rutledge (mother of Fountain) inherited land in Charlotte
Court House VA along with Walkers.  So the primary goal in Donavon's and
my
trip a month ago to VA was to find out if she was a Walker or just how she
was related to them.  It is through her that we hope to eventually find
Fountain's dad.

Theory: From what we discovered, I think it is plausible that Elizabeth
Allen Rutledge mother of Fountain Rutledge, was born Elizabeth Walker and
that she married an Allen (perhaps David) and when he died leaving her
with
5 young children, she married a Rutledge.  (Chalkey Book III on wills,
landsales and other court appearances, reports that David Allen died
young.
In David Allen's will of September 1779, his wife Elizabeth and her
mother,
Mary Allen inherit.  So also do Robert Allen, infant; John C. Allen,
infant;
James Allen, infant; David Allen, infant; and Mary Allen, infant.
Witnesses
were John Allen and Thomas Allen.)

But I get ahead of myself.  First the Walker information. A very wealthy
man,  Edmund Walker, in his will of 1765 gave to his daughter ELIZABETH
WALKER, 2 negroes, Charlie and Buck.  See why this is important later on.
Are you with
me Carole?  It appears that Edmund's children were quite young at the time
of his death.

Will of Edmund Walker (mother was Mary Holdcrop) Wife was Judith.
         They had:
         Edmund Townes Walker
         James Walker
         Judith Walker
         Hannah Walker
         ELIZABETH WALKER
         Sarah Walker
         Lucy Clark Walker
         Alexander Walker
         Frances Walker
         Grandsons Edmund Walker- Joseph Scott Walker
         Daughter Mary Caventon
         Grand daughter Mairy Caventon - Ursley Caventon _Milly Caventon
         Daughter Ann Clement
         Grand Daughter Ann
         Daughter Rebecca Macon

In this will dated 8 November 1765, Edmund is giving away plantations
(note
plural) and estates (note plural) to his sons.  He gives slaves to his
daughters and granddaughters. Of particular interest to us is that he
gives
to his daughter Elizabeth Walker, 2 negros, Buck and CHARLIE.

Last month, Rutledge descendants in Charlotte Court House Virginia told us
that in the research they had done, they found no Rutledge's in that area
who owned slaves. We told them that our Fountain Rutledge had a slave and
that he emancipated his slave CHARLIE about 20 years before the civil war.
HOWEVER, when we later found the above information on Edmund Walker who
bequeaths a slave Charlie to his daughter Elizabeth, we began to feel that
Charlie belonged to Elizabeth and not Fountain, and that perhaps the slave
Charlie was from one of the Walker Plantations.  I believe the
emancipation
of Charlie occured about the time of the death of our Elizabeth in 1835.
If
slavery was incompatible with Fountain's beliefs, he might have
emancipated
Charlie at that time.  It is of course speculation, but when we struggled
and struggled through the myriad of records and finally came to slave
Charlie (if he is the same slave as those whose papers were found in
Jessamine KY)  and found him to "belong" to an Elizabeth Walker... we felt
as if we had found a clue.  It is fascinating to think of the slave
Charlie
being the person who will link us to our lost grandfather.

This is the first time I have felt hopeful about finding a link to
Fountain's Dad.  Again:  (Theory) Perhaps Elizabeth Walker (daughter of
wealthy land owner Edmund Walker who willed her a slave named Charlie)
married
a man by the name of Allen (Allens were prominant in the CCH area of
Virginia.) They might have had 5 children before Allen died.  AFterwhich,
Elizabeth WAlker Allen married a Rutledge.  By now she is more advanced in
age and therefore has only the two children, Elizabeth and Fountain.

More theory.  It is possible that our unknown Rutledge was William who had
at least two brothers John and James and one sister Catherine (Marshall).
James Rutledge had a son Edward who is the father of Rosanna, of "Rosy
Ann's
Bible" found in Fort Collins Co near where our people lived.  Rosanna
never
married and
died within 2 years of Fountain's birth.  Her mother Sarah and her brother
George inherit.  George Rutledge is executor.

Edward and Sarah Rutledge are the  parents of this possible William.  They
lived on 250 acres at Flag Springs on Middle River, patent from Kerr,
which
property
they gave to son George. Chalkey, book III. George Rutledge's land became
a marker for others.  As did John and Thomas' land, we frequently find
markers on the lands of the oldest settlers.

There is a certain amount of connection with these VA Rutledge's and South
Carolina.  Thomas Rutledges will of 10 October 1785 (wife Jean) gave 100
acres on Fishing Creek Branch in South Carolina to sons Thomas and Ed.  I
can't find
my notes right now, but the afore mentioned William left (apparently for
acreage in South Carolina).  Information about him is scanty.

Questions.  Questions.  Questions.  Is William, son of Edward and Sarah,
the
father of Fountain?  Did he marry Elizabeth (Walker) Allen?  Or were they
living together without the benefit of matrimony as people sometimes say?
Is he the William whose name was crossed out and replaced with Elizabeth
Allen Rutledge's name in the land ledger?  If he is our elusive
grand-father,
why did he go to South Carolina and Elizabeth with children stay in
Jessamine
County, KY?

Help. Help. Help.  CBR




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I have  printed just the family of John James, Jr. believe that I have most
of the children of John James  Rutledge and Jane Officer.  Hope this helps.
Rachel Demaree Clemons
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 JOHN JAMES2 RUTLEDGE, JR.  (JOHN JAMES1) was born 11/May/1781 in Fairfield
Co., SC, and died 03/Dec/1835 in Petersburg, Menard Co., ILL.  He married
MARY ANN MILLER 15/Jan/1808 in Henderson Co., KY.
    Notes for JOHN JAMES RUTLEDGE, JR.:
    OTHER:Material from Springfield, ILL gathered by R. C. Clemons from
Rutledge
Museum.
    OTHER:Info from James Rutledge Saunders, son of Sarah F. of Sixquoc, CA to
Mrs. F. W. Smith, Greenville, P. " A Few Family Records, No8, BBB Misc, Pam
01 Topeka, KS.
    OTHER:Camerons "Westward They Came" Film 1321103 FHC--James Rutledge was
drafted for War of 1812, but because of lame foot he sent his brother William
Rutledge in his place.
    CENSUS: 1810 Henderson Co., KY, 336, 00010-10100-00
    1860 Van Buren Co., Licking Creek, IA. Mary Rutledge age 72, bp SC living
with
J. M. Rutledge
    Book USCAN 976.9, D2f, Vol II, pg 49-- Marriages by Rev James McGrady
gives bride as Mary Ann Walker.(Same date as for Mary Ann Miller in other
records.)
Information from James Rutledge Saunders, s/o Sarah F.  Rutledge Saunders of
Sisquoc, Cal. to Mrs. F. W. Smith, Greenville, PA, -- taken from book --
Custer A  Few Family Records, No. 8 1924
    John James Rutledge had a lame foot so when he was drafted for the War
1812, he sent his brother in his place.
    He was member of the Cumberland Presb. Church.
    More About JOHN JAMES RUTLEDGE, JR.:
    Bur.: Old Concord Cem, later moved to Petersburg Cem.
    Notes for MARY ANN MILLER:
    Info from James Rutledge Saunders, son of Sarah F Rutledge of Sisquoc, CA
to Mrs. F. W. Smith, Greenville, PA.
    OTHER:Mary Ann Miller Rutledge moved to IA 1837 (Birmingham) with six
children. Family Bible gives; James Rutledge, father of Ann, was born May 11,
1781 and Mary Ann Miller was born Oct 21 1787
    OTHER:Book, Camerons Westward They Came."Obit. of Mary Ann (Miller)
Rutledge, from Birmingham Enterprise--Jan 2, 1879--"Died, Dec 26, 1878, at
the residence of Mrs. N. C. Prewitt, Mary ann Rutledge, age 91 years, 2
months and 5 days.
The deceased was born Oct. 21, 1787, near Winnsboro, SC. While quite young
her parents moveds to GA.  where they remained till she was about grown. She
also spent a part of her life in KY, ILL, and since 1837 in Van Buren Co.
Three
years after moving to Ky was married to James Rutledge, and with her
husband united with the Old School Presb. Ch.
 MARY ANN MILLER: Bur.: Birmingham. Kefferspm Co., IA Burial: Bethel Cem.
    Children of JOHN RUTLEDGE and MARY MILLER are:
    i.  JANE OFFICER3 RUTLEDGE, b. 23/Nov/1808, Henderson Co., KY; d.
24/Aug/1866, Petersburg, Ill; m. JAMES BERRY, 28/Feb/1828, Menard Co., ILL.
Notes for JAMES BERRY: Had 9 children.  He was at one time a partner of
Abraham Lincoln.
    2.  ii. JOHN MILLER RUTLEDGE, b. 29/Nov/1810, Henderson Co., KY; d.
17/May/1879, Birmingham, Van Buren Co.,  IA.
    iii.    ANN MAYES RUTLEDGE, b. 07/Jan/1813, Henderson Co., KY; d.
25/Aug/1835, ILL.
    Notes for ANN MAYES RUTLEDGE:
    She was engaged to Abraham Lincoln
    Material from Springfield, ILL gathered by RC from Library and Museum: 
Ann Rutledge buried in Oakland Cemetary.
    iv. DAVID HAMILTON RUTLEDGE, b. 22/Aug/1815, White Co., ILL; d.
07/Jun/1842, Petersburg, ILL; m. ELIZABETH SIMMS, 24/Dec/1840, Lewistown,
Fulton Co., ILL, by Rev. N. G. Bergman.

    Notes for DAVID HAMILTON RUTLEDGE:
    The Lincoln Herald, V 52-54, 1950-52 L2 L7387l V52-54--Abraham Lincoln
and David Rutledge by Vern Nance Pond V52 #2, pg 20--After leaving college
David Rutledge went to Lewiston, Fulton Co., ILL whence his mother had moved
her small children in 1836 following the death's of her husband and Ann in the
previous year.
    From Custer- A few Family Records No. 8 1924--,Rutledge, of New Salem,
Menard Co., ILL.,  Says no Surv. desc. Served in Black Hawk War.
3.  v.  ROBERT BRANNON RUTLEDGE, b. 23/Feb/1819, White Co., ILL; d.
06/May/1881, Missouri Valley, IA.
    vi. NANCY CAMERON RUTLEDGE, b. 10/Feb/1821, Enfield twp, White Co., ILL;
d. 16/Jan/1901, Fairfield, IA; m. ANTHONY PREWITT, 14/Aug/1846, Birmingham,
Van Buren Co., IA.

Notes for ANTHONY PREWITT:
After death of Nancy, Anthony T. Prewitt went on to CA


    vii.    MARGARET ARMSTRONG RUTLEDGE, b. 21/Jun/1823, Enfield Twp, White
Co., ILL; d. 15/May/1864, Birmingham, Van Buren Co., IA.

Notes for MARGARET ARMSTRONG RUTLEDGE:
Never married. Buried Bethel m. E. Cemetery. While an invalid for many years,
Margaret was a model of piety. She died at the home of her sister and
brother-in-law, Nancy and Anthony T. Prewitt.

More About MARGARET ARMSTRONG RUTLEDGE:
Bur.: Bethel M. E. Cem., Van Buren Co., IA

4.  viii.   WILLIAM BLACKBURN RUTLEDGE, b. 29/Nov/1826, New Salem, ILL.; d.
26/Jul/1917, Glasco, Cloud Co., KS.
    ix. MARY ANDERSON RUTLEDGE, b. 05/Jun/1827, New Salem, ILL.; d.
23/Jul/1827, New Salem, ILL..

More About MARY ANDERSON RUTLEDGE:
Bur.: Old Concord Cem., Petersburg, ILL

5.  x.  SARAH FOSTER RUTLEDGE, b. 20/Oct/1829, New Salem, ILL.; d.
01/May/1922, Lompoc, Santa Barbara Co., CA.


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Fellow Rooters,
Don't know if this has been published before or not on the "Net" but
didn't think it would hurt and might solve another puzzle for someone!

Cumberland County Deeds, Kentucky, 1799-1847
Henry Rutledge & w. Elizabeth of Clark Co. to John Rutledge land on
Sexton Fork of Illwill, 11/7/1836,  Vol J, Pg 190


John Rutledge of Clark Co. KY to Wm Carver land on Sexton's Fork of
Illwill Creek, 2/13/1837  Vol J, Pg 200


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