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great-great-grandfather Abraham Hollinger born ~1847 in Greencastle, PA

 

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march 2006

JASON, thanks for sharing HOLLINGERS.

ALSO, our Ggranddad is Named Jason Hollinger born 1840 Columbiana Co., Oh,

WHERE did your Abraham 1847 go to and die and his kids? =

Same as ?
1860 TUSCARAWAS CO, OH
JACOB C. HOLLINGER 45 PA, LAND (ck Franklin Co., Pa, msh)
SUSAN 36 PA
RICHARD 14 PA
ABRAHAM 12 PA
SARAH F. 10 PA
SAMUEL 6 OH
MARION J. 3F OH

HELP where you can.

marie, iowa

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Hi Marie,

I don't know much about this genaeology thing, just got lucky and hooked up with a Michele Hollinger in Vancouver, BC, who found my father's lineage back to 1400's(!) for me. My 2nd cousin Mark Glover sent me that picture of Abe Hollinger. All the info I have for Abe is as follows (there are many Abes in PA in 1800's, alas, I think ours are different):

Abraham M Hollinger
father: Jacob Hollinger
mother: Susan Byers
born: 1847: in PA (or was it 185003?)
married: ????: Sarah Baker
other: 1870-1920: (living in Sugar Creek Twp, Stark Co, OH)
other: 1870: (as Hullinger, servant to Jacob Hoverland)
daughter: 1873: Clara (m: Ira L Camp of Akron, OH)
son: 1876: James Garfield (my g-gfather)
daughter: 1877: Laura (m: William Lantz of Stowes Corners, OH)
other: 1880-1910: (farmer)
other: 1880: (Sarah's brother Edward Baker was living with them as a
farm hand)
daughter: 1888: Susan (m: Henry Domer of Massillon, OH)
daughter: 189101: Cleo (m: D Walter Lash of Massillon, OH)
daughter: 1893: Lola
married: 1917: Mary ? (b: 1858)
died: 19351205: in Beach City, OH
(a daughter married Ray Justice of Beach City, OH)
(a daughter married Lee Graber of Massillon, OH)

And here's brief info going back to Switzerland (these records are very poor, back in old world they ironically become more accurate):

His father:
Jacob Hollinger
father: Abraham Hollinger
mother: Jane ?
born: 1820: in Greencastle, PA

His father:
Abraham Hollinger
father: Jacob Hollinger
mother: Maria Hess
born: 1790: in Donegal, Westmoreland, PA
died: 1857
(from here back, I relied on LDS familysearch.org)

His father:
Jacob Hollinger
father: Johann Nicklous Hollinger (born in Switzerland)
mother: Schwen Catharina Elizabeth Bauer (born in PA)
born: 1756: in PA
sons: Jacob, Abraham, Jon, Isaac
dghtrs: Elizabeth, Molly Mary, Sussanna, Margaretha, Catherine
died: 1827

Hope something there helps!

Best regards,
Jason Hollinger
jasonphollinger@yahoo.com

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JASON, thanks.

Johann Nicklaus Hollinger 1726 is a brother to our Johann? Christian Hollinger 1734.

I haven't followed Nicklaus kids' on , but, it appears the Abraham Hollinger 1790 and Jane living close to son? Jacob Hollinger 1820 and Susan that had a son Abraham 1847 in 1850 Franklin Co., Pa

DON'T have info on Jacob and Susan after 1860 Tuscarawas Co., OH.

Kinda hard to PROVE, but, possible, same as 1880 Stark Co., OH.

The obit on Abraham 1850?, I THINK, shows a sister Maria Fernsell.
Do you have ANY info on her?
I did a quick search and would like to see her.

YES, I have the same old lineage you sent, Proving the kids that connect to same is harder.

THANKS and best wishes,
marie, iowa

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Hi Marie,

I'm sorry, but I'm really bad at understanding this "genaeology-speak", so I really don't know what (if anything!) you're asking...

I should have sent you more info about Jacob (born 1820): According to my records he had sons Thomas (born 1844), Abe M (1847), and dghtr Sarah (1850). He remarried Mary Wingert (born 1825) after Jane (born
1792) died in 1868.

Do you have any information on Jane? (I don't even have maiden name.)

I'm very confused about your Richard (born 1845-6). In the 1850 census for Franklin Co PA it shows:

Jacob Hollinger 30 Laborer born in PA
Susan 25 born in PA
Thomas 6
Abraham 3
Sarah 9/12

Is your Richard my Thomas??

Subsequent census data I've found only show Abe and Sarah: 1870, 1880, 1890, and 1900, all in Sugar Creek Twp, Stark Co, OH. Do you think Jacob and Susan moved to OH at the same time? I seem to remember failing to find them in PA censuses.

Yes, obit for Abe 1850 shows sister Maria Fernsell in Dundee, OH:

[from Canton, OH Repository, died 5 Dec 1935]
Abraham M Hollinger, age 85, born 1850, life resident of Beach City, OH, died at his home near here after a lingering illness. He leaves 5 daughters, Mrs William Lantz of Stowe's Corners, Mrs Clara Camp of Akron, Mrs Ray Justice of Beach City, Mrs Walter Lash and Mrs Henry Domer of Massillon and a son, James of Massillon and a sister Mrs Maria Fernsell of Dundee, OH. Funeral services will be at the home with Rev J E Wyant of Magnolia officiating. Burial in South Lawn cemetery Beach City with E D Adams in charge.

Sarah's obit (died 23 March 1915 in Beach Ciry, OH) has no add'l info.

So... if my g^7-gfather Hans Jacob is your g^N-gfather, what does that make us?? :) Besides confused. 8th cousins possibly-some-number-removed?

I don't know if you're interested in this kind of thing, but I just got my report back from National Geographics Genographic project. They test men's Y chromosome and women's mitochondrial RNA for markers that allow them to trace your paternal or maternal (respectively) lineage back to the hypothetical Adam and Even back in Africa tens of thousands of years ago. Your father would have carried the same Y chromosome as me, so the results are equally applicable to you. I've attached a stripped version of the HTML report I got off of nationalgeographic.com (I can't just give you a link because they've got all sorts of security and passwords and stuff guarding my "genetic secrets" -- hah!). For more info, the project's website is:

https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/

Anyway, it's kind of amusing.

-Jason

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JASON, we have a small Hollinger discussion group and web pages. We have a few members who have taken our dna tests and results are at =
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~holinger/hollydnaresults.htm

I can hardly read on this background, so hope you can.
We don't have a lot of interest in the dna, maybe because several of the Hollingers are pretty well proved with church records, etc.
It appears your test is same as my husbands whick would indicate a common ancester, which is probably Hans Jacob 1700.
We can't send attachments thro the Hollinger/Rootsweb group.
But, may I have your permission to show your results on our dna page??

I need to read more or ask for advice on this 389-2 reading where your charts shows a 16 and ours 29??

answer your other letter later.
marie, iowa
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Wow, interesting. How were the four results shown on the page below produced? Some sort of "private" DNA test? Or did one or more go through nationalgeographic's test, as well? I'm a little surprised they're as different as they are. What do the results from an unrelated person look like?? Oh, yes, by all means, share whatever you like with other Hollingers, I just don't know the etiquette myself, so I'm letting you post whatever is postable. Neat, thanks for sharing that with me. I have
*no* idea what it means, but it's still neat! ;)

-Jason

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JASON , thanks.
Ft dna = family tree dna did our tests.

I also found = if you add geographic, etc results of their 389-1 and 389-2 together it will equal the 38912 of ftdna! Your 389-1 = 13 and 389-2 = 16 and would = 29 (same as my husband = Hans Jacob 1700 )

I will add your results to this small group and appreciate you sharing..

The result on the bottom chart is way off from ours and not related. The numbers can't be off over 1 or 2 markers.

The link at the top of our page I Think takes you to some of our other pages that explains SOME and shows our family history. Maybe that will help you SEE.

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Abraham HOLLINGER  died 5 Dec 1935. His obituary from the Canton (OH) Repository:

"Abraham M Hollinger, age 85, born 1850, life resident of Beach City, OH,
died at his home near here after a lingering illness. He leaves 5 daughters,
Mrs William Lantz of Stowe's Corners, Mrs Clara Camp of Akron, Mrs Ray
Justice of Beach City, Mrs Walter Lash and Mrs Henry Domer of Massillon and
a son, James of Massillon and a sister Mrs Maria Fernsell of Dundee, OH. (Tuscarawas,msh)
Funeral services will be at the home with Rev J E Wyant of Magnolia
officiating. Burial in South Lawn cemetery Beach City with E D Adams in
charge."

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SAME? AS

1850 FRANKLIN CO, PA CENSUS INDEX=
ABRAHAM HOLLINGER 60 PA, PAGE 470 GREEN CASTLE ANTRIM ,
JANE 58 PA
SAMUEL 26 PA
ABRAHAM 25 PA
DAVID 23 PA
JOSEPH 20 PA
NANCY 21 PA

next

JOHN HOLLINGER 36 PA
SOPHIA 26 PA
MARY 4 PA
SUSAN 2 PA
SAMUEL 2/12 PA

2 doors down
JACOB HOLLINGER 30 PA (ck Tuscarawas, Ohio)
SUSAN 25 PA
THOMAS 6 PA
ABRAHAM 3 PA
SARAH 9/12 PA

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1860 TUSCARAWAS CO, OH
JACOB C. HOLLINGER PA, LAND (ck Franklin Co., Pa, msh) WHERE died? or went to? msh
SUSAN 36 PA
RICHARD 14 PA
ABRAHAM 12 PA
SARAH F. 10 PA
SAMUEL 6 OH
MARION J. 3F OH

 

1870

Jacob Hollinger Perry, Stark, OH abt 1824 Pennsylvania White Male =

Jacob Hullinger Lawrence, Stark, OH abt 1826 Pennsylvania White Male =

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1870 STARK CO, OH
FROM            "Mark Glover" <mark@baserunner.com>
In the 1870 census (Sugar Creek Twp, Stark Co, OH):

Abraham Hullinger, age 20, born in PA.
He is listed as a "Domestic Servant" in the household of Jacob Hoverland.

Sarah Hullinger, age 19, born in OH.
She is listed as a "Domestic Servant" in the household of Henry Bose.

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1880

 Census Place: Sugar Creek, Stark, Ohio
 Source: FHL Film 1255068  National Archives Film T9-1068     Page 421B
 Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Abe HULLINGER Self M M W 30 PA
 Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA
Sarah HULLINGER Wife F M W 29 PA (ca1851)
 Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA
Mary A. HULLINGER Dau F S W 9 OH
 Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA
Clara D. HULLINGER Dau F S W 7 OH
   Fa: PA Mo: PA
James HULLINGER Son M S W 4 OH
   Fa: PA Mo: PA
Laura HULLINGER Dau F S W 3 OH
   Fa: PA Mo: PA
Edward BAKER Other M S W 17 OH (1863)
 Occ: Works On Farm Fa: PA Mo: PA

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1900 Abraham Hollinger found in:

Census Microfilm Records: Ohio, 1900
Lived in: Sugar Creek Township, Stark County, Ohio =
Abraham Holling Sugar Creek, Stark, Ohio abt 1850 Ohio White Head
View Record Cleo Holling Sugar Creek, Stark, Ohio abt 1891 Ohio White Daughter
View Record James Holling Sugar Creek, Stark, Ohio abt 1877 Ohio White Son
View Record Laura Holling Sugar Creek, Stark, Ohio abt 1879 Ohio White Daughter
View Record Lola Holling Sugar Creek, Stark, Ohio abt 1893 Ohio White Daughter
View Record Sarah Holling Sugar Creek, Stark, Ohio abt 1851 Ohio White Wife

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1910 STARK CO., OHIO

Abraham Hollinger Sugar Crk Twp, Stark, OH abt 1850 Ohio White Male,M1 30YRS, DAD PA, MOM OH
SARAH 59 PA, M1 30YRS, 10KIDS 9 LIVING, BOTH PARENTS PA
SUSA 22 OH, DAD OH, MOM PA ON ALL KIDS
CLEO 19F OH
LOLA 16F OH

James Hollinger 2-Wd Massillon, Stark, OH abt 1880 Ohio White Male , BOTH PARENTS OH, M1 7YRS
FRANCES 28 OH, M 1 7 YRS, 2/2, DAD OH, MOM GERMANY
RUTH 6 OH
JAMES 3 OH

 

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1920 STARK CO, OH

Abraham Hollinger found in:

Census Microfilm Records: Ohio, 1920 Age: 69 Gender: M Race: W Birthplace: PENNSYLVANIA
State: OH County: STARK Locale: BREWSTER Page: 241B
Mary Hollinger Sugar Creek, Stark, Ohio abt 1858 Ohio White
living alone

 

J G Hollinger Massillon Ward 2, Stark, Ohio abt 1880 Ohio White
View Record Mary G Hollinger Massillon Ward 2, Stark, Ohio abt 1882 Ohio White
View Record Ruth R Hollinger Massillon Ward 2, Stark, Ohio abt 1904 Ohio White
View Record James F Hollinger Massillon Ward 2, Stark, Ohio abt 1907 Ohio White
View Record Hope P Hollinger Massillon Ward 2, Stark, Ohio abt 1910 Ohio White
View Record Mary Alice Hollinger Massillon Ward 2, Stark, Ohio abt 1911 Ohio White
View Record Robert F Hollinger Massillon Ward 2, Stark, Ohio abt 1913 Ohio White
ARCHOYD OLLIE 60 SWITZERLAND, 1916 AL, FIL

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1930
Abraham Hollinger Sugar Creek, Stark, OH abt 1850 Pennsylvania Head

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Type: Y-Chromosome
Haplogroup: J2 (M172)

Your STRs DYS393: 12 DYS439: 13 DYS388: 15 DYS385a: 14
DYS19: 14 DYS389-1: 13 DYS390: 23 DYS385b: 18
DYS391: 10 DYS389-2: 16 DYS426: 11 DYS392: 11

How to Interpret Your Results
Above are results from the laboratory analysis of your Y-chromosome. Your DNA was analyzed for Short Tandem Repeats (STRs), which are repeating segments of your genome that have a high mutation rate. The location on the Y chromosome of each of these markers is depicted in the image, with the number of repeats for each of your STRs presented to the right of the marker. For example, DYS19 is a repeat of TAGA, so if your DNA repeated that sequence 12 times at that location, it would appear: DYS19 12. Studying the combination of these STR lengths in your Y Chromosome allows researchers to place you in a haplogroup, which reveals the complex migratory journeys of your ancestors. Y-SNP: In the event that the analysis of your STRs was inconclusive, your Y chromosome was also tested for the presence of an informative Single Nucleotide Polymorphism (SNP). These are mutational changes in a single nucleotide base, and allow researchers to definitively place you in a genetic haplogroup.







Your Y chromosome results identify you as a member of haplogroup J2, a lineage defined by a genetic marker called M172. This haplogroup is the final destination of a genetic journey that began some 60,000 years ago with an ancient Y chromosome marker called M168.
The very widely dispersed M168 marker can be traced to a single individual—"Eurasian Adam." This African man, who lived some 31,000 to 79,000 years ago, is the common ancestor of every non-African person living today. His descendants migrated out of Africa and became the only lineage to survive away from humanity's home continent.

Population growth during the Upper Paleolithic era may have spurred the M168 lineage to seek new hunting grounds for the plains animals crucial to their survival. A period of moist and favorable climate had expanded the ranges of such animals at this time, so these nomadic peoples may have simply followed their food source.

Improved tools and rudimentary art appeared during this same epoch, suggesting significant mental and behavioral changes. These shifts may have been spurred by a genetic mutation that gave "Eurasian Adam's" descendants a cognitive advantage over other contemporary, but now extinct, human lineages.

Some 90 to 95 percent of all non-Africans are descendants of the second great human migration out of Africa, which is defined by the marker M89.

M89 first appeared 45,000 years ago in Northern Africa or the Middle East. It arose on the original lineage (M168) of "Eurasian Adam," and defines a large inland migration of hunters who followed expanding grasslands and plentiful game to the Middle East.

Many people of this lineage remained in the Middle East, but others continued their movement and followed the grasslands through Iran to the vast steppes of Central Asia. Herds of buffalo, antelope, woolly mammoths, and other game probably enticed them to explore new grasslands.

With much of Earth's water frozen in massive ice sheets, the era's vast steppes stretched from eastern France to Korea. The grassland hunters of the M89 lineage traveled both east and west along this steppe "superhighway" and eventually peopled much of the continent.

A group of M89 descendants moved north from the Middle East to Anatolia and the Balkans, trading familiar grasslands for forests and high country. Though their numbers were likely small, genetic traces of their journey are still found today.

Haplogroup J2, defined by marker M172 originated in the Fertile Crescent and marks a major milestone of the human journey. Some 10,000 to 15,000 years ago the members of this group became the first farmers during a period known as the Neolithic Revolution. With the success of agriculture, they later pioneered the rise of modern, sedentary communities and cities.

M172 defines a major subset of this haplogroup which arose from the M89 lineage. It is found today in North Africa, the Middle East, and southern Europe. In southern Italy it occurs at frequencies of 20 percent, and in southern Spain ten percent of the population carries this marker.

This lineage's early farming successes spawned population booms and encouraged migration throughout much of the Mediterranean world. Later migrations carried M172 through the river valleys of Central Asia and into northern India.

Descendants of M172 have left a physical footprint that matches their genetic journey. Sites such as Jericho (Tell el-Sultan) are among the world's oldest settled communities, and allow archaeologists to trace many millennia of growth and development.

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