Group 4 Anglins

Contents

• Summary of Participants
  
  
• Summary of Findings
  
  
• The Thomas B. Anglin and David W. Anglin Question
  
  
• Documents:          Henry Anglin's Revolutionary War Pension Application
  
  
• Pedigree Pages with Photographs:           A15           A20           A24
  
  
• Test Results
  
  
• Mutation/Lineage Charts
  
  
• Recruiting Goals
  
  
• Descendants Chart
  
  

Summary of Participants

All of the people in Group 4 are obviously closely related, and all of the participants in Group 4 are descended from James Anglin, who was in Augusta County, Virginia, in 1755; later lived in North Carolina; and then moved to Wilkes County, Georgia, where he died in 1778. We have descendants of each of the sons James named in his will and one participant with a gap in his lineage:

• 2 descendants of John (A20 and A39);
  
  
• 1 descendant of David (A16);
  
  
• 4 descendants of Henry (A5, A15, A21, and A47);
  
  
• 1 descendant of William (A24);
  
  
• 1 descendant of Thomas B. Anglin, whose exact connection to James is not known (A30).
  
  

Summary of Findings

• James is unrelated to his fellow colonial Virginians, William and Adrian.
  
  
• Daniel Benjamin Anglin, born about 1806 in Georgia, is not descended from James, as many had thought, but from Adrian.
  
  
• A39 matched Group 4's ancestral haplotype on all 37 markers, so he was clearly descended from James, but we were unable to find the line from his great, great grandfather to James. Johnny Anglin has kindly filled in the gaps for us, and A39 fits nicely now. Many thanks to Johnny for his help.
  
  
• Thomas B. Anglin, born about 1798 in Georgia, and married to Edith Culver, is a descendant of James. Thomas was almost certainly the brother of David W. Anglin, who was born about 1797 in Georgia and was married to Edith Culver's sister Sarah. Since Thomas B. Anglin's descendant A30 has the same mutation at DYS 458 as the descendant of James's son William (A24), it is likely that Thomas B. Anglin was also a son of James's son William. We should test others, though, to make sure that this mutation was not a parallel mutation, but one inherited from a common ancestor. In Group 3, we established that two participants who had the same mutation had a parallel mutation rather than one inherited from a common ancestor, which illustrates our need to be careful not to jump to conclusions.
  
  

Hypothetical Branch

Test Results

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		DYS Numbers
ID	Ancestor	3 9 3	3 9 0	1 9 *	3 9 1	3 8 5 a	3 8 5 b	4 2 6	3 8 8	4 3 9	3 8 9 i	3 9 2	3 8 9 i i	4 5 8	4 5 9 a	4 5 9 b	4 5 5	4 5 4	4 4 7	4 3 7	4 4 8	4 4 9	4 6 4 a	4 6 4 b	4 6 4 c	4 6 4 d	4 6 0	G A T A H 4	Y C A II a	Y C A II b	4 5 6	6 0 7	5 7 6	5 7 0	C D Y a	C D Y b	4 4 2	4 3 8
Group 4:       James Anglin, b. abt 1720 Ireland, d. 1778, Wilkes Co., GA   •   SNP-tested Haplogroup R1b1b2a1b6* (R-L21*).
A16	David	14	23	15	10	11	15	12	12	13	14	13	30	17	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	32	15	16	16	19	10	11	19	23	16	16	16	17	35	39	12	12
A20	John	14	23	15	10	11	15	12	12	13	14	13	30	17	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	32	15	16	16	19	10	11	19	23	16	16	16	17	35	39	12	12
A39	John	14	23	15	10	11	15	12	12	13	14	13	30	17	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	32	15	16	16	19	10	11	19	23	16	16	16	17	35	39	12	12
A30	Thomas	14	23	15	10	11	15	12	12	13	14	13	30	16	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	32	15	16	16	19	10	11	19	23	16	16	16	17	35	39	12	12
A24	William	14	23	15	11	11	15	12	12	13	14	13	30	16	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	32	15	16	18	19	10	11	19	23	16	16	17	17	35	39	12	12
A5	Henry	14	23	15	10	11	15	12	12	13	14	13	30	17	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	32	15	15	16	18	10	11	19	23	16	15	16	17	35	39	12	12
A47	Henry	14	23	15	10	11	15	12	12	13	14	13	30	17	9	9	11	11	26	15	19	32	15	15	16	19	10	11	19	23	16	16	16	17	35	38	12	12
A15	Henry	14	23	15	10	11	15	12	12	13	14	13	30	17	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	32	15	15	16	19	10	11	19	23	16	17	16	17	34	38	12	12
A21	Henry	14	23	15	10	11	15	12	12	13	14	13	30	17	9	9	11	11	25	15	19	32	15	15	16	19	10	11	19	23	16	17	16	17	34	38	12	12

Mutations from the ancestral haplotype are shown in bold type. Participants with no mutations indicated have the ancestral haplotype, i.e. the same haplotype as James, the earliest known common ancestor.

In addition to the STR testing referred to above, one Group 4 participant has had SNP-testing, which tells us about the deep ancestry of the group, i.e before the adoption of surnames. His results would apply to everyone in the group.

• He is P95+ (this SNP defines R1b1b2, formerly called R1b1c);
• He is S116+ (this SNP defines R1b1b2a1a2 and appears to be a very large subgroup of R1b1b2a, and it may well be strongly identified with Celtic culture.
• He is L21+. This SNP defines the subclade R1b1b2a1a2f, which is so newly discovered that we don't yet know it's extent, but in the testing done so far, it is very strong in Ireland, Scotland, and Wales; and less prevalent in England.
• He is negative for all of the known SNP's downstream of L21.




Mutations and Lineages




We know the haplotypes of everyone whose name is in dark blue. Where there are no mutations noted anywhere in the line, each person in the line has the ancestral haplotype (i.e. the same haplotype as the patriarch James). Where we don't know where mutations occurred, I have placed them at the bottom of the line, except for those mutations shared by A21 and A15, where we have narrowed it down to two possible generations in which any one or two or three of the mutations could have occurred. We have established that the mutation at DYS 464b, which is shared by A5, A21, and A15, occurred when James begot Henry. Where it is unknown where a mutation occurred, in order to establish that, we need to start by testing a descendant of a brother of the top person in the line whose name is in light blue. So in A5's line, we need to test a descendant of a brother of Hnery's son James. And in A21's and A15's line, we need to test a descendant of a brother of Peter. In A24's line, we need to test a descendant of a brother of William.

We can also see from this chart where we need to branch out more. We have descendants from one son of James's son John, from one son of James's son David, and from one son of James's son William (until we establish whether Thomas B. Anglin was also a son of William, that is).



Recruiting Goals

• a descendant of a brother of A24's ancestor John;
  
  
• a descendant David W. Anglin, born about 1797 in Georgia;
  
  
• a descendant of a brother of A15 and A21's ancestor Peter;
  
  
• a descendant of a brother of A5's ancestor James (son of Henry);
  
  
• a descendant of a brother of A39's and A20's ancestor John;
  
  
• a descendant of a brother of A16's ancestor David (son of James);
  
  


Descendants Chart

This is a bare-bones chart; it shows only the lines of the participants
in this group whose exact connection to James is known.