0 HEAD
1 SOUR AncestQuest
2 NAME Ancestral Quest
2 VERS 11
2 CORP Incline Software, LC
3 ADDR PO Box 95543
4 CONT South Jordan, UT 84095
1 DEST Ancestral Quest
1 DATE 8 DEC 2005
2 TIME 21:47:03
1 FILE augustbz.ged
1 GEDC
2 VERS 5.5
2 FORM LINEAGE-LINKED
1 CHAR ANSEL
0 @I1@ INDI
1 NAME August /Koberstajn/
1 SEX M
1 FAMS @F1@
1 NOTE Terry, thanks for your answer.
2 CONT An exploring your site, I found my brother: Gustavo Herman Koberstein, 
2 CONC basson player. Ernesto and Maria Conceiðcäao are may daddy and mommy.  In 
2 CONC fact my original name is KOBERSZTAJN, from Poland, Opezno or Poczno. 
2 CONT Asking my father, he told me that her father (Herman Kobersztajn married 
2 CONC with Helena Lik) arrived in Brazil in 6 august 1928 with her parents 
2 CONC (August Kobersztajn and Lidia), brothers (Karl, Hermut, Teofel) and 
2 CONC sisters (Bertha and Otilia). My granfather had another sister, Olga, who 
2 CONC has gone to Canada. 
2 CONT I don't know more than this.  Now, after discover your site, my father is 
2 CONC very interesting in our genealogie and he wil search for more 
2 CONC information. We hope help you to complete the site. I never mind thar the 
2 CONC Koberstein family was so big.
2 CONT 
2 CONT 
2 CONT August Kobersztajn x Lidia
2 CONT - Herman Kobersztajn x Helena Lik (they died)
2 CONT   + Klaus Koberstein x Irene (they live in Itajai, Santa Catarina)
2 CONT      = Helena Koberstein (iden)
2 CONT      = Moisâes Koberstein x Mãonica (iden)
2 CONT        # Jâessica
2 CONT      = Zelinda x ??? (she live in the north)
2 CONT      = Sara Koberstein (itajai, Santa Catarina)
2 CONT      = Klaus Koberstein x ?? ( he lives in Curitiba, Parana)
2 CONT   + Hilda Kleman x Evaldo Kleman (they live in Curitiba, Parana)
2 CONT      = Rute Thin x Fredolin Thin (iden)
2 CONT      = Roberto Kleman x ??? (iden)
2 CONT   + Ernesto Gustavo Koberstein x Maria conceiðcäao Pereira Koberstein 
2 CONT (Brasilia, DF)
2 CONT      = Gustavo Herman Koberstein (iden)
2 CONT      = Telma Rosãangela Koberstein (iden)
2 CONT - Karl Kobersztajn (died)
2 CONT - Helmut Kobersztajn (died)
2 CONT   + Otto Koberstein
2 CONT - Bertha (Parana)
2 CONT - Otilia
2 CONT - Olga (Regina, Canada)
2 CONT 
2 CONT 
2 CONT PS: By the way, do you speak french? It would be more easy to me.
2 CONT 
2 CONT Telma
2 CONT 
2 CONT Hi Terry
2 CONT 
2 CONT I don't know "Franz". Could you give me her mail?  In recently 
2 CONC accomplished research, my father found some information on my descent, 
2 CONC starting from my great-grandfathers, that can be useful for inclusion 
2 CONT in the site of the Kobersztajn (or Koberstein) family:
2 CONT 
2 CONT Great-grandfathers (#8211); August Kobersztajn married with Lidia Wall 
2 CONC (born in Poland, immigrated to Brazil in 06/08/1928, with their 
2 CONC children):
2 CONT 
2 CONT Teâofilo Kobersztajn, born in 10/01/1906. He died in 28/08/1971. He had 
2 CONC the following children: Clara, Henrique, Erna and Otto. They live in the 
2 CONC State of Parana.
2 CONT 
2 CONT Otilia Kobersztajn, born in 24/10/1907. She died in Curitiba, State of  
2 CONC Parana, in 11/05/1974. She married Otto Rapp and they had the children:
2 CONT 
2 CONT Walter Rapp and Hilma Rappa, both live in Curitiba too.
2 CONT 
2 CONT Carlos Kobersztajn, born in 12/12/1911, in Opoczus, Poland. He died in 
2 CONC Säao Paulo in 10/01/1985. He married Helena Murgi (died) and they had the 
2 CONC following children:
2 CONT 
2 CONT Augusto Kobersztajn and Maria Kobersztajn. Augusto lives in Porto Uniao, 
2 CONC State of Santa Catarina, and Maria got married and she lives in Säao 
2 CONC Paulo.
2 CONT 
2 CONT Olga Kobersztajn, who immigrated to Canada. She married Gustav and 
2 CONT 
2 CONT they had a daughter Marie that married Bill Moffat. They live in Regina 
2 CONC city, in Canada. This is the only information that we have obtained.
2 CONT 
2 CONT Bertha Kobersztajn, born in 22/07/1922. She lives in Lanðca city, State of 
2 CONC  Santa Catarina. She married Emâilio Heimann (died) and 
2 CONT 
2 CONT they had the children Alvino, Arlindo, Carlos, Irene and Olivia.
2 CONT 
2 CONT Herman Kobersztajn, born in 08/12/1909 in Opoczno (or Operno), Poland. He 
2 CONC died in in 26/02/1996. 
2 CONT 
2 CONT He had the following children: Ernesto Gustavo Koberstein (my father), 
2 CONC Klaus Koberstein and Hilda Kleman.
2 CONT 
2 CONT My father was born in 27/10/1945 and we live in Brasilia, Federal 
2 CONC District.
2 CONT 
2 CONT I have a brother, Gustavo Herman Koberstein, born in 19/11/1972. m Telma 
2 CONC Rosãangela Koberstein, born in 26/08/1974.
2 CONT 
2 CONT Klaus was born in 26/07/1950 and he lives in Itajaâi, Santa Catarina. He 
2 CONC married Irene and they have the children 
2 CONT 
2 CONT Klaus, Moisâes (married Mãonica; child 
2 CONT 
2 CONT Jâessica), Sara, Zelinda and Elena.  
2 CONT 
2 CONT Hilda was born in 25/11/1937, married Evaldo Kleman and they have the 
2 CONC children 
2 CONT 
2 CONT Rute (married Fredolin) and Roberto (married Josâelia).
2 CONT 
2 CONT It is important to say that my grandfather Herman registered her 
2 CONC children's last name with Koberstein (for ignored reasons). Thereafter 
2 CONC all of children started to have the last name Koberstein in the place of 
2 CONC KOBERSZTAJN.
2 CONT 
2 CONT This is the information that we obtained regarding my family.  My 
2 CONC great-grandfather had lost hir official papers arriving in Brazil, so we 
2 CONC didn't get this information and any new information will be valuable for 
2 CONC us.
2 CONT 
2 CONT Thankful
2 CONT Telma
2 CONT 
2 CONT 
2 CONT 
2 CONT From: "Terry Koberstein" <koberstein@compuserve.com>
2 CONT To: <trkob@hotmail.com>
2 CONT Subject: RE: Koberstein name
2 CONT Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:41:39 -0800
2 CONT 
2 CONT Thanks so much for the information, it is now published on the Koberstein 
2 CONC web site.  Do you know anything about a "Franz" as given in the e-mail 
2 CONC copied below which I just received?
2 CONT 
2 CONT 
2 CONT Hi,
2 CONT My name is Marcos Schroeder, 39 years old, born in Rio do Sul, State of 
2 CONC Santa Catarina, South of Brazil. Since many years I search about my 
2 CONC antcestors and towns where they lived.  I know that the first teacher in 
2 CONC Rio do Sul (at that time Sèudarm, later Bela Alianðca and finally Rio do 
2 CONC Sul) was Franz KOBERSTEIN. He was born at 06.06.1846 and died at 
2 CONC 30.07.1924.  I have only this information about him and know that exist 
2 CONC some families descendents in Rio do Oeste, near to Rio do Sul and others 
2 CONC in Paranâa, another State .
2 CONT 
2 CONT By,
2 CONT Marcos
2 CONT 
2 CONT Sorry, I don't speak French.  I wish I did speak another language.  I 
2 CONC look forward to communicating with you as we all do more research on the 
2 CONC Koberstein Family.
2 CONT 
2 CONT Terry Koberstein
2 CONT California, USA
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:34:39
0 @I2@ INDI
1 NAME Lidia /Wall/
1 SEX F
1 BIRT
2 PLAC Poland
1 FAMS @F1@
1 SOUR @S1@
2 DATA
3 DATE 23 JUN 0002
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:21:41
0 @I3@ INDI
1 NAME Herman /Koberstajn/
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 8 DEC 1909
2 PLAC Opoczno, Poland
1 DEAT
2 DATE 26 FEB 1996
1 FAMS @F2@
1 FAMC @F1@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:35:37
0 @I4@ INDI
1 NAME Helena /Lik/
1 SEX F
1 DEAT
2 DATE Deceased
1 FAMS @F2@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:38:37
0 @I5@ INDI
1 NAME Klaus /Koberstein/
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 26 JUL 1950
1 FAMS @F3@
1 FAMC @F2@
1 NOTE Per March 7th, 2002 e-mail they live in Itajai, Santa Catarina, Brazil.
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:38:33
0 @I6@ INDI
1 NAME Irene //
1 SEX F
1 FAMS @F3@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:39:13
0 @I7@ INDI
1 NAME Helena /Koberstein/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F3@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:40:24
0 @I8@ INDI
1 NAME Moisâes /Koberstein/
1 SEX M
1 FAMS @F4@
1 FAMC @F3@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:44:07
0 @I9@ INDI
1 NAME Mãonica //
1 SEX F
1 FAMS @F4@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:43:42
0 @I10@ INDI
1 NAME Jâessica /Koberstein/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F4@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:44:16
0 @I11@ INDI
1 NAME Zelinda /Koberstein/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F3@
1 NOTE Per e-mail dated March 7, 2002 from Telma Rosãangela Koberstein, she lives 
2 CONC in northern Brazil and is married.
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:46:34
0 @I12@ INDI
1 NAME Sara /Koberstein/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F3@
1 NOTE Per e-mail dated March 7, 2002 from Telma Rosãangela Koberstein, she lives 
2 CONC in itajai, Santa Catarina, Brazil.
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:47:02
0 @I13@ INDI
1 NAME Klaus /Koberstein/
1 SEX M
1 FAMC @F3@
1 NOTE Per e-mail dated March 7, 2002 from Telma Rosãangela Koberstein, he lives 
2 CONC in Curitiba, Parana, Brazil and is married.
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:47:34
0 @I14@ INDI
1 NAME Hilda /Koberstein/
1 SEX F
1 FAMS @F5@
1 FAMC @F2@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:51:52
0 @I15@ INDI
1 NAME Evaldo /Kleman/
1 SEX M
1 FAMS @F5@
1 NOTE Per e-mail dated March 7, 2002 from Telma Rosãangela Koberstein, they live 
2 CONC in Curitibia, Parana, Brazil.
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:49:09
0 @I16@ INDI
1 NAME Rute /Kleman/
1 SEX F
1 FAMS @F6@
1 FAMC @F5@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:49:56
0 @I17@ INDI
1 NAME Fredolin /Thin/
1 SEX M
1 FAMS @F6@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:50:13
0 @I18@ INDI
1 NAME Roberto /Kleman/
1 SEX M
1 FAMS @F16@
1 FAMC @F5@
1 NOTE Per e-mail dated March 7, 2002 from Telma Rosãangela Koberstein, he is 
2 CONC married.
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:50:43
0 @I19@ INDI
1 NAME Ernesto Gustavo /Koberstein/
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 27 OCT 1945
1 FAMS @F7@
1 FAMC @F2@
1 NOTE Per e-mail dated March 7, 2002 from Telma Rosãangela Koberstein, they live 
2 CONC in Brazilia, DG, Brazil.
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:36:53
0 @I20@ INDI
1 NAME Maria conceicäao /Pereira/
1 SEX F
1 FAMS @F7@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:52:52
0 @I21@ INDI
1 NAME Gustavo Herman /Koberstein/
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 19 NOV 1972
1 FAMS @F15@
1 FAMC @F7@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:37:18
0 @I22@ INDI
1 NAME Telma Rosãangela /Koberstein/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F7@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:55:09
0 @I23@ INDI
1 NAME Karl /Koberstajn/
2 NICK Carlos
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 12 DEC 1911
2 PLAC Opoczus, Poland
1 DEAT
2 DATE 10 JAN 1985
2 PLAC Sao Paulo, Brazil
1 FAMS @F10@
1 FAMC @F1@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:28:17
0 @I24@ INDI
1 NAME Helmut /Koberstajn/
1 SEX M
1 DEAT
2 DATE Deceased
1 FAMS @F8@
1 FAMC @F1@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:55:59
0 @I25@ INDI
1 NAME Otto /Koberstein/
1 SEX M
1 FAMC @F8@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 12 MAR 2002
3 TIME 06:56:19
0 @I26@ INDI
1 NAME Bertha /Koberstajn/
1 SEX F
1 BIRT
2 DATE 22 JUL 1922
1 FAMS @F14@
1 FAMC @F1@
1 NOTE Per e-mail dated March 7, 2002 from Telma Rosãangela Koberstein, she is 
2 CONC living in Parana, Brazil.
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:31:53
0 @I27@ INDI
1 NAME Otilia /Koberstajn/
1 SEX F
1 BIRT
2 DATE 24 OCT 1907
1 DEAT
2 DATE 11 MAY 1974
2 PLAC Curitibia, Parana, Brazil
1 FAMS @F9@
1 FAMC @F1@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:24:43
0 @I28@ INDI
1 NAME Olga /Koberstajn/
1 SEX F
1 FAMS @F12@
1 FAMC @F1@
1 NOTE Per e-mail dated March 7, 2002 from Telma Rosãangela Koberstein, she is 
2 CONC living in Regina, Canada.
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:30:33
0 @I29@ INDI
1 NAME Otto /Rapp/
1 SEX M
1 FAMS @F9@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:24:59
0 @I30@ INDI
1 NAME Walter /Rapp/
1 SEX M
1 FAMC @F9@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:25:57
0 @I31@ INDI
1 NAME Hilma /Rappa/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F9@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:26:14
0 @I32@ INDI
1 NAME Helena /Murgi/
1 SEX F
1 DEAT
2 DATE Deceased
1 FAMS @F10@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:28:55
0 @I33@ INDI
1 NAME Augusto /Koberstajn/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F10@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:29:27
0 @I34@ INDI
1 NAME Maria /Koberstajn/
1 SEX F
1 FAMS @F11@
1 FAMC @F10@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:29:39
0 @I35@ INDI
1 NAME unknown //
1 SEX M
1 FAMS @F11@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:30:00
0 @I36@ INDI
1 NAME Gustav //
1 SEX M
1 FAMS @F12@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:30:47
0 @I37@ INDI
1 NAME Marie //
1 SEX F
1 FAMS @F13@
1 FAMC @F12@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:31:03
0 @I38@ INDI
1 NAME Bill /Moffat/
1 SEX M
1 FAMS @F13@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:31:19
0 @I39@ INDI
1 NAME Emilio /Heimann/
1 SEX M
1 DEAT
2 DATE Deceased
1 FAMS @F14@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:32:25
0 @I40@ INDI
1 NAME Alvino /Heimann/
1 SEX M
1 FAMC @F14@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:32:43
0 @I41@ INDI
1 NAME Arlindo /Heimann/
1 FAMC @F14@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:33:30
0 @I42@ INDI
1 NAME Carlos /Heimann/
1 SEX M
1 FAMC @F14@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:33:41
0 @I43@ INDI
1 NAME Irene /Heimann/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F14@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:33:50
0 @I44@ INDI
1 NAME Olivia /Heimann/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F14@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:34:01
0 @I45@ INDI
1 NAME Telma /Rosangela/
1 SEX F
1 BIRT
2 DATE 26 AUG 1974
1 FAMS @F15@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:37:55
0 @I46@ INDI
1 NAME Sara /Koberstein/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F4@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:39:04
0 @I47@ INDI
1 NAME Zelinda /Koberstein/
1 FAMC @F4@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:39:15
0 @I48@ INDI
1 NAME Elena /Koberstein/
1 FAMC @F4@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:39:25
0 @I49@ INDI
1 NAME Joselia //
1 SEX F
1 FAMS @F16@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 16:40:11
0 @I50@ INDI
1 NAME Teofilo /Koberstajn/
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 10 JAN 1906
1 DEAT
2 DATE 28 AUG 1971
1 FAMS @F17@
1 FAMC @F1@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 21:31:03
0 @I51@ INDI
1 NAME Clara /Koberstajn/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F17@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 21:31:17
0 @I52@ INDI
1 NAME Henrique /Koberstajn/
1 SEX M
1 FAMC @F17@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 21:31:31
0 @I53@ INDI
1 NAME Erna /Koberstajn/
1 SEX F
1 FAMC @F17@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 21:31:42
0 @I54@ INDI
1 NAME Otto /Koberstajn/
1 SEX M
1 FAMC @F17@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 23 JUN 2002
3 TIME 21:31:52
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1 CHIL @I42@
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1 _STAT MARRIED
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1 CHIL @I52@
1 CHIL @I53@
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1 TITL E-mail from Telma dated 5/28/2002
1 ABBR E-mail 
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