0 HEAD 1 SOUR AncestQuest 2 NAME Ancestral Quest 2 VERS 12.01.23 2 CORP Incline Software, LC 3 ADDR PO Box 95543 4 CONT South Jordan, UT 84095 4 CONT USA 1 DEST Ancestral Quest 11 1 DATE 12 MAY 2010 2 TIME 04:50:19 1 FILE kobersteen.ged 1 GEDC 2 VERS 5.5 2 FORM LINEAGE-LINKED 1 CHAR UTF-8 0 @I1@ INDI 1 NAME Carl Lewis /Kobersteen/ 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 18 OCT 1883 2 PLAC Wisconsin 2 SOUR @S1@ 3 DATA 4 DATE 5 DEC 2002 1 DEAT 2 DATE 8 JAN 1975 2 PLAC Sacramento, Sacramento, California 2 SOUR @S2@ 3 DATA 4 DATE 5 DEC 2002 2 SOUR @S1@ 3 DATA 4 TEXT Name: Carl Kobersteen 5 CONT SSN: 387-07-2109 5 CONT Last Residence: 95673 Rio Linda, Sacramento, California, United States 5 CONC of America 5 CONT Born: 18 Oct 1883 5 CONT Died: Jan 1975 5 CONT State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (Before 1951) 3 _APPLIES_TO DATE_AND_PLACE 3 QUAY 2 1 _UID 70B403FB4A5BB04780BEF338185551533885 1 FAMS @F1@ 1 FAMC @F7@ 1 NOTE New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 2 CONT Name: Karl Kobersteen 2 CONT Arrival Date: 5 Sep 1922 2 CONT Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 2 CONT Age: 41 2 CONT Gender: Male 2 CONT Port of Departure: Hamburg 2 CONT Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: German 2 CONT Ship Name: Mount Clinton 2 CONT Search Ship Database: Search the Mount Clinton in the 'Passenger Ships 2 CONC and Images' database 2 CONT Port of Arrival: New York, New York 2 CONT Nativity: Germany 2 CONT Line: 5 2 CONT Microfilm Serial: T715 2 CONT Microfilm Roll: T715_3189 2 CONT Birth Location: Germany 2 CONT Birth Location Other: wartmanwrsth 2 CONT Page Number: 179 2 CONT 2 CONT Family appears in the Milwaukee City Directories for the first time in 2 CONC 1921 and for the last time in 1948. 2 CONT 2 CONT Posting in Ancestry.com database by Gary Kobersteen Kelly (name legally 2 CONC changed from Ronald Gary Kobersteen: 2 CONT "Carl was my dad's (Ronald John's father). Carl was my grandfather and 2 CONC shared several bits of information to me. The first was that the first 2 CONC Kobersteen to came to America from Germany, was seventeen and stowed away 2 CONC on a ship. He was escaping the conscription o Kaiser. The second item was 2 CONC that the name Kobersteen was actually Koberstein. The "i" was dropped in 2 CONC recording due to the dot over the "i" being omitted." 2 CONT "My given name is Ronald Gary Kobersteen. Ron was my father. Carl was my 2 CONC grandfather and was Ron's Dad. Hannah was my grandmother and Ron's 2 CONC mother. I had a legal name change from Ronald Gary Kobersteen to Gary 2 CONC Kobersteen Kelly in 1965. I was told by Carl Kobersteen that our name's 2 CONC spelling was changed from Koberstein to Kobersteen because it was 2 CONC recorded with out the dot on the i. Carl Kobersteen also told me that the 2 CONC first Kobersteen to came to American in the 1850's from Germany by 2 CONC stowing away on a ship at age seventeen. He was excaping Kaiser's 2 CONC conscription." 2 CONT 2 CONT Newspaper entries for Koberstee(i)n: 2 CONT From the Sheboygan Press of Sheboygan, Wisconsin 2 CONT 2 CONT dated April 20, 1913 2 CONT "Mr. and Mrs. Carl Kobersteen 1710 North Thirteenth street are the proud 2 CONC parents of a little eight pound daughter." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated April 21, 1913 2 CONT "Mr. and Mrs. Carl Kobersteen 1710 North Thirteenth street are the proud 2 CONC parents of a little eight pound daughter." ed.note a duplicate 2 CONT 2 CONT dated December 17, 1914 advertisement 2 CONT "Attention Auto Owners, A new Garage, known as THE NORTHSIDE GARAGE will 2 CONC be opened for business in a few days equipped with everything necessary 2 CONC for the REPAIRING OF AUTOMOBILES and Machinery in general. Ten years 2 CONC experience, (two years with the Rummel Auto Co.) In this lin enables us 2 CONC to guarantee first class work. THE NORTHSIDE GARAGE TREMBE & KOBERSTEEN 2 CONC 1210 Michigan Avenue" 2 CONT 2 CONT dated June 25, 1915 2 CONT "Mrs. C. Kobersteen will entertain the members of her club at her home on 2 CONC North Thirteenth street, Tuesday afternoon." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated June 28, 1915 2 CONT "C. L. Kobersteen of the North Side Garage attended the automobile races 2 CONC at Chicago Saturday." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated June 29, 1915 2 CONT "Mrs. C. Kobersteen was hostess to the members of her club at her home 2 CONC this afternoon." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated August 17,1915 2 CONT "Mrs. Carl Koberstein and daughter Janet are spending ten days with 2 CONC relatives at Columbus." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated October 7,1915 2 CONT "Mrs. Koberstein was hostess to the members of her club at her home on 2 CONC North Thirteenth street, Tuesday afternoon." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated December 9, 1915 2 CONT "Geroge and Arthur Kobersteen, of Kilbourn, are visiting at the home of 2 CONC Carl Kobersteen, 1710 North Thirteenth street, for a few days." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated March 18, 1916 2 CONT "Mr. and Mrs. Carl Koberstein entertained the memembers of their club at 2 CONC their home on North Thirteenth street Thursday evening." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated April 19, 1916 2 CONT "Mrs. Carl Koberstein and daughter, Jane, 1710 North Thirteenth street, 2 CONC left today for a visit with Mrs. Koberstein's parents at Columbus, Wis. 2 CONC Mr. Koberstein will join them over Sunday." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated June 13, 1916 2 CONT "Local news happening in and about town 2 CONT Mrs. L. Berdell returned to her home in Columbus, Saturday, after a three 2 CONC week's visit with her daughter Mrs. Carl Koberstein, and family of North 2 CONC Thirteenth street." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated August 22, 1917 2 CONT "About Town 2 CONT John Koberstein of Kilbourn, is visiting at the home of his brother, Carl 2 CONC Koberstein, 315 Wisconsin avenue." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated September 2, 1916 2 CONT "Mr. and Mrs. Carl Koberstein and daughter will leave tomorrow for a weks 2 CONC motor trip to the Wisconson Delsl." ed.note actual spelling 2 CONT 2 CONT dated September 15, 1916 2 CONT "Miss Cora Kobersteen is spending the day in Milwaukee, attending the 2 CONC state fair." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated November 2, 1916 2 CONT "Mrs. Carl Kobersteen has returned from a three days visit at Milwaukee." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated October 8, 1918 2 CONT "Bowling 2 CONT Mead Ladies Evening 2 CONT Stouts 2 CONT Miss Koberstein 2 CONT G. 82 2 CONT W. 100 2 CONT L. 91 2 CONT Pct. 273 2 CONT 2 CONT dated October 17, 1918 (probable Advertising) 2 CONT "Owners of the finest cars recommend the better auto repairing, the kind 2 CONC that stand the test, done at the North Side Garage, 1210 Michigan avenue. 2 CONC Phone White 460. Koberstein and Trempe, Prop." 2 CONT 2 CONT dated November 22, 1918 2 CONT "Bowling 2 CONT Mead Club 2 CONT Navy 2 CONT Koberstein 2 CONT G. 111 2 CONT W. 100 2 CONT L. 145 2 CONT Pct. 356" 2 CONT 2 CONT Entry from Society column 2 CONT March 18, 1916 Sheboygan Press (Sheboygan, Wisconsin) 2 CONT Mr. and Mrs. Carl Koberstein entertained members of their club at their 2 CONC home on North Thirteenth street Thursday evening. 2 CONT 2 CONT April 19, 1916 Sheboygan Press (Sheboygan, Wisconsin) 2 CONT Interesting Local Events 2 CONT Mrs. Carl Koberstein and daughter, Janet, 1710 North thirteenth street, 2 CONC left today for a visit with Mrs. Koberstein's parents at Columbus, Wis. 2 CONC Mr. Koberstein will join them over Sunday. 2 CONT 2 CONT January 7, 1919 Sheboygan Press (Sheboygan, Wisconsin) 2 CONT Bowling 2 CONT Mead Ladies Evening 2 CONT Stout 2 CONT Mrs. Koberstein G.84, W.98, L.111, Pct. 293 2 CONT 2 CONT July 16, 1919 Sheboygan Press (Sheboygan, Wisconsin) 2 CONT Mrs. Carl Koberstein and children left Tuesday for Milwaukee, and after a 2 CONC short visit there they will visit her sister at Okauchee. 2 CONT 2 CONT Reference that indicates that Kilbourn of old is now named Wisconsin 2 CONC Dells: http://www.dells.com/dellshistory/index.htm 2 CONT 2 CONT One of the oldest sites to appear on maps of the western Great Lakes 2 CONC region is the "Dalles" of the Wisconsin River. It was identified as a 2 CONC convenient reference point by French explorers in the 1700's. The name 2 CONC stuck after the French explorers left Wisconsin, with the spelling and 2 CONC pronunciation Anglicized as the "dells". When the railroad arrived in 2 CONC 1857, the new village established at the point where the tracks crossed 2 CONC the Wisconsin River, was named Kilbourn City in honor of the railroad's 2 CONC president - but locals and visitors alike never stopped referring to the 2 CONC area as the "Dells". In 1931, the city of Kilbourn officially changed its 2 CONC name to Wisconsin Dells. 2 CONT 2 CONT Social Security Death index from which the death information for both 2 CONC Carl and Hannah was obtained indicated Carls last residence as Rio Linda, 2 CONC Sacramento, CA and the social security number as 387-07-2109. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 1 MAR 2009 3 TIME 22:40:03 0 @I2@ INDI 1 NAME Hannah /Berdall/ 2 NICK Hanna 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 22 NOV 1889 2 PLAC , Columbia, Wisconsin 2 SOUR @S3@ 3 DATA 4 DATE 5 DEC 2002 1 DEAT 2 DATE 6 NOV 1977 2 PLAC Sacramento, Sacramento, California 2 SOUR @S4@ 3 DATA 4 DATE 5 DEC 2002 3 _APPLIES_TO DATE_AND_PLACE 2 SOUR @S3@ 3 DATA 4 TEXT Social Security Death Index 5 CONT about Hannah Kobersteen 5 CONT Name: Hannah Kobersteen 5 CONT SSN: 399-09-7619 5 CONT Born: 22 Nov 1889 5 CONT Last Benefit: 95825 Sacramento, Sacramento, California, United States of 5 CONC America 5 CONT Died: Nov 1977 5 CONT State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (Before 1951) 3 _APPLIES_TO DATE_AND_PLACE 3 QUAY 2 1 _UID E9CAEE61B0686942A25B9E3B439DAB476D63 1 FAMS @F1@ 1 NOTE Social Security Death Index from which death information was derived gave 2 CONC social security number as 399-09-7619. 2 CONT 2 CONT Hi, below is the latest info I have on this family. You will notice that 2 CONC the name spelling is BERDOLL and that is correct. Your Hannah and my 2 CONC Josephine ended up using the spelling of BERDALL. I do not know when the 2 CONC changed, but the records in the Columbia County Court House in Wisconsin 2 CONC are clear. In addition the LDS records list the French spelling as 2 CONC BERDOLL and that is where Louis was born. As time permits I will dig 2 CONC deeper. Thanks for your info, Armin Gumerman 2 CONT ********************************* 2 CONC *************************************************************** 2 CONT Descendants of Louis Berdoll 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT Generation No. 1 2 CONT 2 CONT 1. LOUIS1 BERDOLL was born Abt. 1835 in France1, and died Bef. 1925 in 2 CONC Columbus, Columbia County, Wisconsin2. He married SOPHIA REIDER Unknown. 2 CONC She was born January 26, 1850 in Austria2,3, and died October 23, 19254. 2 CONT 2 CONT More About LOUIS BERDOLL: 2 CONT Occupation: Saloon Keeper5 2 CONT 2 CONT Children of LOUIS BERDOLL and SOPHIA REIDER are: 2 CONT i. OTTO2 BERDOLL, b. Abt. 1870, Columbia County, Wisconsin5. 2 CONT ii. LOUIS BERDOLL, b. Abt. 1875, Columbia County, Wisconsin5. 2 CONT iii. WILLIE BERDOLL, b. Abt. 1875, Columbia County, Wisconsin5. 2 CONT 2. iv. ELMER BERDOLL, b. Abt. 1877, Columbia County, Wisconsin; d. 2 CONC Unknown. 2 CONT 3. v. JOSEPH PATRICK BERDOLL, b. October 5, 1878, Columbia County, 2 CONC Wisconsin; d. September 30, 1965, Columbus, Wisconsin. 2 CONT vi. MARY BERDOLL, b. Abt. 1880, Columbia County, Wisconsin5. 2 CONT vii. ALBERT BERDOLL, b. July 27, 1883, Columbia County, Wisconsin6; d. 2 CONC December 1971, Milwaukee, Wisconsin6. 2 CONT viii. LENA C BERDOLL, b. Abt. 1885, Columbia County, Wisconsin7; m. FRANK 2 CONC MCGRAY, JR, October 17, 1911, Columbia County, Wisconsin7; b. Unknown. 2 CONT ix. HANNA BERDOLL, b. November 22, 1889, Columbia County, Wisconsin7; m. 2 CONC CARL KOBERSTEIN, June 27, 1911, Columbia County, Wisconsin7; b. Unknown. 2 CONT x. LEO BERDOLL, b. Unknown. 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT Generation No. 2 2 CONT 2 CONT 2. ELMER2 BERDOLL (LOUIS1) was born Abt. 1877 in Columbia County, 2 CONC Wisconsin8, and died Unknown. He married ANNA BASSLER October 2, 1901 in 2 CONC Columbia Co, Wisconsin9, daughter of LOUIS BASSLER and JOSEPHINE 2 CONC UNDERSTOECK. She was born Unknown. 2 CONT 2 CONT Marriage Notes for ELMER BERDOLL and ANNA BASSLER: 2 CONT Birth listed under the name Bardoll 2 CONT 2 CONT Child of ELMER BERDOLL and ANNA BASSLER is: 2 CONT 4. i. JOSEPHINE3 BERDOLL, b. July 14, 1902, Columbia County, Wisconsin; 2 CONC d. June 27, 1987, Sun City, Arizonia. 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT 3. JOSEPH PATRICK2 BERDOLL (LOUIS1) was born October 5, 1878 in Columbia 2 CONC County, Wisconsin9,10, and died September 30, 1965 in Columbus, 2 CONC Wisconsin11. He married CAROLINE ADELIA ZINK May 16, 1905 in Columbus, 2 CONC Wisconsin11, daughter of LOUIS ZINK and ADELIA ANKENBRANDT. She was born 2 CONC February 7, 188411, and died May 26, 1945 in Columbia County, Wisconsin. 2 CONT 2 CONT Children of JOSEPH BERDOLL and CAROLINE ZINK are: 2 CONT i. ADELIA CORA3 BERDOLL, b. March 28, 1907, Columbia County, Wisconsin11; 2 CONC d. March 15, 1962, Columbia County, Wisconsin11. 2 CONT ii. CATHERINE MARY BERDOLL, b. May 7, 1909, Columbia County, Wisconsin11; 2 CONC m. NORBERT J IOMBROOSKE, May 7, 1935, Columbia County, Wisconsin11; b. 2 CONC Unknown. 2 CONT iii. BERNARD L BERDOLL, b. August 13, 1912, Columbia County, 2 CONC Wisconsin11,12; d. October 11, 1994, Milwaukee, Wisconsin12. 2 CONT iv. NORBERT BERDOLL, b. January 20, 192112; d. October 1974, Wisconsin12. 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT Generation No. 3 2 CONT 2 CONT 4. JOSEPHINE3 BERDOLL (ELMER2, LOUIS1) was born July 14, 1902 in 2 CONC Columbia County, Wisconsin13, and died June 27, 1987 in Sun City, 2 CONC Arizonia14. She married DR GEORGE JOHN GUMERMAN II August 3, 1932 in 2 CONC Milwaukee, Wisconsin15, son of JOHANN GUMMERMANN and AMANDA JUBECK. He 2 CONC was born April 27, 1906 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin15, and died April 3, 1998 2 CONC in Tucson, Arizonia16. 2 CONT 2 CONT More About JOSEPHINE BERDOLL: 2 CONT Burial: August 20, 1987, Holy Cross Cemetery, Milwaukee, Wisconsin17 2 CONT 2 CONT More About DR GEORGE JOHN GUMERMAN II: 2 CONT Burial: March 30, 2001, Holy Cross Cemetery, Milwaukee, Wisconsin17 2 CONT Occupation: Physician 2 CONT Religion: Catholic 2 CONT 2 CONT Child of JOSEPHINE BERDOLL and GEORGE GUMERMAN is: 2 CONT i. DR GEORGE JOHN4 GUMERMAN III, b. February 6, 1936, Milwaukee, 2 CONC Wisconsin18; m. SHEILA BAUMGAERTNER, December 22, 1959, Milwaukee, 2 CONC Wisconsin18; b. April 13, 1937, Milwaukee, Wisconsin19. 2 CONT 2 CONT More About DR GEORGE JOHN GUMERMAN III: 2 CONT Occupation: Archaeologist 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT Endnotes 2 CONT 2 CONT 1. 1880 Federal Census - Wisconsin. 2 CONT 2. Vital Records, Wisconsin. 2 CONT 3. 1880 Federal Census - Wisconsin. 2 CONT 4. Vital Records, Wisconsin. 2 CONT 5. 1880 Federal Census - Wisconsin. 2 CONT 6. Social Security Death Index. 2 CONT 7. Vital Records, Wisconsin. 2 CONT 8. 1880 Federal Census - Wisconsin. 2 CONT 9. Vital Records, Wisconsin. 2 CONT 10. 1880 Federal Census - Wisconsin. 2 CONT 11. Vital Records, Wisconsin. 2 CONT 12. Social Security Death Index. 2 CONT 13. Vital Records, Wisconsin. 2 CONT 14. Obituary. 2 CONT 15. Vital Records, Wisconsin. 2 CONT 16. Obituary. 2 CONT 17. Cemetery Record. 2 CONT 18. Vital Records, Wisconsin. 2 CONT 19. 1860 Federal Census - Indiana. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 1 MAR 2009 3 TIME 16:32:57 0 @I3@ INDI 1 NAME Janet /Kobersteen/ 2 NICK Janette 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 21 APR 1913 2 PLAC Sheboygan, Sheboygan, Wisconsin 2 SOUR @S5@ 3 DATA 4 DATE 5 DEC 2002 1 DEAT 2 DATE ABT 1999 1 _UID 05C5F2DFDB42004FA6764A3C6DF8D313F4F2 1 FAMS @F5@ 1 FAMC @F1@ 1 NOTE Listed in the Milwaukee City Directory at an address separate from 2 CONC parents for the first time in 1930 as student, then stenographer, then 2 CONC timekeeper. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 MAY 2010 3 TIME 04:39:16 0 @I4@ INDI 1 NAME Ronald John /Kobersteen/ 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 23 MAR 1917 2 PLAC Sheboygan, Wisconsin 1 DEAT 2 DATE 26 AUG 1997 2 PLAC Bellingham, Washington 2 SOUR @S10@ 3 DATA 4 TEXT Name: Ronald J. Kobersteen 5 CONT SSN: 397-03-8694 5 CONT Last Residence: 98225 Bellingham, Whatcom, Washington, United States of 5 CONC America 5 CONT Born: 23 Mar 1917 5 CONT Died: 26 Aug 1997 5 CONT State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (Before 1951) 3 _APPLIES_TO DATE_AND_PLACE 3 QUAY 2 1 _UID 1B0E2F237D641141AA2FEBB84D2CB9DD39B0 1 FAMS @F2@ 1 FAMS @F8@ 1 FAMC @F1@ 1 NOTE List in the Milwaukee city directories for the first time at an address 2 CONC other than his parents in 1935 as dental helper then as a dental 2 CONC technician. 2 CONT 2 CONT Social Security Death Index gives last residence as Bellingham, Whatcom, 2 CONC WA and social security number of 397-03-8694. 2 CONT 2 CONT Entry in Koberstein Surname web site guestbook by Gary Kobersteen Kelly 2 CONC on November 23, 2002. 2 CONT 2 CONT Carl and Hannah Koebersteen are listed in vital records for Sheboygan, 2 CONC WI. My father was born in Sheboygan, WI. on 3/23/1917. He was the second 2 CONC of four children. Janet was the oldest, Ron, Doris and Lois. 2 CONT Carl changed the spelling of the last name when he started working. He 2 CONC said everyone spelled it that way anyway. He once told me he had a auto 2 CONC mechanic job in Milwaukee where he signed his name a lot. He would not 2 CONC dot the "i" so it became an "e." 2 CONT Carl also told me that in the early 1850's, a seventeen year old male 2 CONC stowed away on a ship from Germany to dodge Kaiser's conscripton. Settled 2 CONC in the Wisconsin area. Carl and Hannah lived in Milwaukee, move to 2 CONC Florida during the depresion and ended up in the Sacramento, CA area. 2 CONC Here are some vitals: 2 CONT Janet Kobersteen married John Dunn and had Patrick and Susie. Janet died 2 CONC several years ago. 2 CONT Ronald, my dad, married Bernice Landgren, had me and died in 1997 in 2 CONC Bellingham, WA 2 CONT Doris, married Edward Bramer and had Gary and Kathleen. Doris lives in 2 CONC Carson City, NV. 2 CONT Lois married Kenny Lauer and had Larry and Lynn. They live in Neveda, 2 CONC near Lake Tahoe. 2 CONT My birth name was Ronald Gary Kobersteen, and I was born in Seattle, WA 2 CONC on 3/23/1946. I now live in Mukilteo, WA and have a daughter Kristene, 2 CONC married to Rodger Hanson, serving on the USS Lincoln. 2 CONT Legally changed my name from Ronald Gary Kobersteen to Gary Kobersteen 2 CONC Kelly in 1965. 2 CONT Would really appreciate any help i can get to trace my family back to the 2 CONC German area they came from. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 MAY 2010 3 TIME 04:42:41 0 @I5@ INDI 1 NAME Doris /Kobersteen/ 1 SEX F 1 _UID 9B41EFAD6C22174F9F5A68EE60E160AF0BA3 1 FAMS @F9@ 1 FAMC @F1@ 1 NOTE Listed in the Milwaukee Directories at a separate address from parents in 2 CONC 1940 as a book keeper then a clerk. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 5 DEC 2002 3 TIME 20:28:31 0 @I6@ INDI 1 NAME Lois /Kobersteen/ 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 17 JUN 1923 2 PLAC Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 2 SOUR @S7@ 3 DATA 4 DATE 8 DEC 2002 1 _UID A4058A7D8ADA8047B9CFC9B931404C3FE1E4 1 FAMC @F1@ 1 NOTE Listed in the Milwaukee city directories for the first at an address 2 CONC separate from parents in 1942 as a clerk. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 8 DEC 2002 3 TIME 14:03:53 0 @I7@ INDI 1 NAME Ronald Gary /Kobersteen/ 2 NICK Gary K. Kelly 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 23 MAR 1946 2 PLAC Seattle, Washington 1 _UID E696502D725E814498EFB6D01BDE7CC7D705 1 FAMS @F10@ 1 FAMC @F2@ 1 NOTE Changed name legally to Gary Kobersteen Kelly in 1965. 2 CONT 2 CONT Entry in Koberstein Surname web site guestbook by Gary Kobersteen Kelly 2 CONC on November 23, 2002. 2 CONT 2 CONT Carl and Hannah Koebersteen are listed in vital records for Sheboygan, 2 CONC WI. My father was born in Sheboygan, WI. on 3/23/1917. He was the second 2 CONC of four children. Janet was the oldest, Ron, Doris and Lois. 2 CONT Carl changed the spelling of the last name when he started working. He 2 CONC said everyone spelled it that way anyway. He once told me he had a auto 2 CONC mechanic job in Milwaukee where he signed his name a lot. He would not 2 CONC dot the "i" so it became an "e." 2 CONT Carl also told me that in the early 1850's, a seventeen year old male 2 CONC stowed away on a ship from Germany to dodge Kaiser's conscripton. Settled 2 CONC in the Wisconsin area. Carl and Hannah lived in Milwaukee, move to 2 CONC Florida during the depresion and ended up in the Sacramento, CA area. 2 CONC Here are some vitals: 2 CONT Janet Kobersteen married John Dunn and had Patrick and Susie. Janet died 2 CONC several years ago. 2 CONT Ronald, my dad, married Bernice Landgren, had me and died in 1997 in 2 CONC Bellingham, WA 2 CONT Doris, married Edward Bramer and had Gary and Kathleen. Doris lives in 2 CONC Carson City, NV. 2 CONT Lois married Kenny Lauer and had Larry and Lynn. They live in Neveda, 2 CONC near Lake Tahoe. 2 CONT My birth name was Ronald Gary Kobersteen, and I was born in Seattle, WA 2 CONC on 3/23/1946. I now live in Mukilteo, WA and have a daughter Kristene, 2 CONC married to Rodger Hanson, serving on the USS Lincoln. 2 CONT Legally changed my name from Ronald Gary Kobersteen to Gary Kobersteen 2 CONC Kelly in 1965. 2 CONT Would really appreciate any help i can get to trace my family back to the 2 CONC German area they came from. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 MAY 2010 3 TIME 04:42:49 0 @I8@ INDI 1 NAME Christopher /Eisenlauer/ 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT 1973 1 _UID A37976C52871394999043A4E1323FD0BD5C2 1 FAMC @F4@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 27 MAR 2003 3 TIME 22:22:27 0 @I9@ INDI 1 NAME Patrick /Dunn/ 1 SEX M 1 _UID 96C340A6A5C34B4E85FEFB3A5CD606BBEB5B 1 FAMC @F5@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 27 MAR 2003 3 TIME 22:20:00 0 @I10@ INDI 1 NAME Eric /Eisenlauer/ 1 SEX M 1 _UID 83ACF564CA9C4A44B1D203C224E946ADC4D8 1 FAMS @F4@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 27 MAR 2003 3 TIME 22:20:38 0 @I11@ INDI 1 NAME Brian /Eisenlauer/ 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT 1971 1 _UID F1C66388407315449BB99BE6CC1157E9A024 1 FAMS @F3@ 1 FAMC @F4@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 27 MAR 2003 3 TIME 22:21:55 0 @I12@ INDI 1 NAME John /Dunn/ 1 SEX M 1 _UID F6A47E8865283546A8637ABAC7A14735CBF9 1 FAMS @F5@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 27 MAR 2003 3 TIME 22:18:27 0 @I13@ INDI 1 NAME Suzanne /Dunn/ 1 SEX F 1 _UID 8695EBE9B8C0234DB5BB97D373C535FB19AB 1 FAMS @F4@ 1 FAMC @F5@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 27 MAR 2003 3 TIME 22:19:34 0 @I14@ INDI 1 NAME Kristin /Johnson/ 1 SEX F 1 _UID 1DCFB9FD1BEA5C4EB861F3DD7382BD1400DA 1 FAMS @F3@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 27 MAR 2003 3 TIME 22:22:53 0 @I15@ INDI 1 NAME Brandon /Eisenlauer/ 1 SEX M 1 _UID 6238675F1287454294E0E594C68191F83D3D 1 FAMC @F3@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 27 MAR 2003 3 TIME 22:23:26 0 @I18@ INDI 1 NAME C. /Kobersteen/ 1 SEX M 1 _UID C17ABD34EBF03246817DE4979BCB96B7AB5C 1 FAMS @F7@ 1 SOUR @S11@ 2 DATA 3 TEXT Name: C. Kobersteen 4 CONT Census Date: 1895 4 CONT Residence County: Columbia 4 CONT Residence State: Wisconsin 4 CONT Locality: Portage Ward 4 4 CONT Line: 9 4 CONT Roll: v226_11 1 CHAN 2 DATE 1 MAR 2009 3 TIME 17:02:34 0 @I19@ INDI 1 NAME John /Koberstein/ 1 SEX M 1 _UID 4CA0C52C1F4EA842B7B1849B5A379B533A16 1 FAMC @F7@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 1 JUN 2003 3 TIME 16:32:21 0 @I20@ INDI 1 NAME Bernice /Landgren/ 1 SEX F 1 _UID 05F31A6F0817DC40A3B78D412A0F7CEB8435 1 FAMS @F2@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 27 NOV 2007 3 TIME 21:42:38 0 @I21@ INDI 1 NAME Babetta Ann /Wheeler/ 1 SEX F 1 _UID 05E73E9768158E4ABFAEF68E997BFA1D32FF 1 FAMS @F8@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 27 NOV 2007 3 TIME 21:57:41 0 @I22@ INDI 1 NAME Edward /Bramer/ 1 SEX M 1 _UID 4E91A4438C67744087285D920FC6FB8560E4 1 FAMS @F9@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 MAY 2010 3 TIME 04:41:02 0 @I23@ INDI 1 NAME Gary /Bramer/ 1 SEX M 1 _UID 2B776EE0A4FE4B438DC8FF95A70E567B8FA0 1 FAMC @F9@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 MAY 2010 3 TIME 04:41:11 0 @I24@ INDI 1 NAME Kathleen /Bramer/ 1 SEX F 1 _UID DA0B5EDC8BC6F34C9C29C4395F9D283DD259 1 FAMC @F9@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 MAY 2010 3 TIME 04:41:22 0 @I25@ INDI 1 NAME Kristene /Kobersteen/ 1 SEX F 1 _UID 6FE064AF039A4847A479EC6360895174A893 1 FAMS @F11@ 1 FAMC @F10@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 MAY 2010 3 TIME 04:43:41 0 @I26@ INDI 1 NAME Rodger /Hanson/ 1 SEX M 1 _UID 6F95CBD3C64265488DFFA6A685D8EA5FD566 1 FAMS @F11@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 MAY 2010 3 TIME 04:43:57 0 @F1@ FAM 1 _STAT MARRIED 1 HUSB @I1@ 1 WIFE @I2@ 1 _UID 1110E38DDC1DCA4AAD5AFFB3648842E16684 1 CHIL @I3@ 1 CHIL @I4@ 1 CHIL @I5@ 1 CHIL @I6@ 1 MARR 2 DATE 27 JUN 1911 2 PLAC , Columbia, Wisconsin 0 @F2@ FAM 1 _STAT MARRIED 1 HUSB @I4@ 1 WIFE @I20@ 1 _UID D41FC93F80C0564FBD1D9AF023ABD3D4B9AB 1 CHIL @I7@ 1 MARR 2 DATE 9 DEC 1943 2 PLAC , Kitsap, Washington 2 SOUR @S8@ 3 DATA 4 TEXT Ranald J. Kobersteen 5 CONT Bernice Landgren 5 CONT 9 Dec 1943 5 CONT Kitsap county Washington State 3 _APPLIES_TO DATE_AND_PLACE 0 @F3@ FAM 1 _STAT MARRIED 1 HUSB @I11@ 1 WIFE @I14@ 1 _UID 02BCCBE66317674F9B25C25A4FE313C78755 1 CHIL @I15@ 0 @F4@ FAM 1 _STAT MARRIED 1 HUSB @I10@ 1 WIFE @I13@ 1 _UID C4DC25D837D27D4CB82AEAE2E8E459CC0EE0 1 CHIL @I11@ 1 CHIL @I8@ 0 @F5@ FAM 1 _STAT MARRIED 1 HUSB @I12@ 1 WIFE @I3@ 1 _UID E97FC657CB58F54F8C0D924FE5D841D5390A 1 CHIL @I13@ 1 CHIL @I9@ 0 @F7@ FAM 1 _STAT MARRIED 1 HUSB @I18@ 1 WIFE @I0@ 1 _UID 82BAAAFAE2805B43B925444A93190F727901 1 CHIL @I1@ 1 CHIL @I19@ 0 @F8@ FAM 1 _STAT MARRIED 1 HUSB @I4@ 1 WIFE @I21@ 1 _UID 85B59A241A99014F9E877400DA34D1BE3184 1 MARR 2 DATE 5 JUL 1972 2 PLAC Reno, Washoe, Nevada 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 DATA 4 TEXT Ronald John Kobersteen 5 CONT Babetta Ann Wheeler 5 CONT 5 Jul 1972 5 CONT Reno, Washoe, Nevada 0 @F9@ FAM 1 _STAT MARRIED 1 HUSB @I22@ 1 WIFE @I5@ 1 _UID 93E832BC77817E4CBADB88F0CFFDA8D27EC9 1 CHIL @I23@ 1 CHIL @I24@ 0 @F10@ FAM 1 _STAT MARRIED 1 HUSB @I7@ 1 WIFE @I0@ 1 _UID 880EED00C4F77243B61037DDC3922FF849B7 1 CHIL @I25@ 0 @F11@ FAM 1 _STAT MARRIED 1 HUSB @I26@ 1 WIFE @I25@ 1 _UID 80C56A5197003D468FD16A55434A9C0E70E4 0 @S1@ SOUR 1 REPO @REPO1@ 1 _TYPE Social Security Death Index 1 TITL Social Security Death index for Carl Kobersteen 1 ABBR Social Security Death index for Carl Kobersteen 1 QUAY 2 1 TEXT Found on Ancestry.com 1 _MASTER Y 1 _ITALIC Y 1 _PAREN Y 0 @S2@ SOUR 1 REPO @REPO2@ 1 _TYPE Death Registration 1 TITL California Death index for Carl Kobersteen 1 ABBR California Death index for Carl Kobersteen 1 TEXT Carl Kobersteen died 8 Jan 1975 in Sacramento, CA 0 @S3@ SOUR 1 REPO @REPO1@ 1 _TYPE Social Security Death Index 1 TITL Social Security Death Index for Hannah Kobersteen 1 ABBR Social Security Death Index for Hannah Kobersteen 1 QUAY 2 1 TEXT Born on 22 Nov 1889 and Social security number issued in Wisconsin. 1 _MASTER Y 1 _ITALIC Y 1 _PAREN Y 0 @S4@ SOUR 1 REPO @REPO2@ 1 _TYPE Death Registration 1 TITL Hannah Koberstein death, 6 Nov 1977, Sacramento, Sacramento, California 1 ABBR Hannah Koberstein death, 6 Nov 1977, Sacramento, Sacramento, California 1 QUAY 2 0 @S5@ SOUR 1 REPO @REPO3@ 1 _TYPE Newspaper Clipping (Identified) 1 TITL 8 lb daughter born 21 Apr 1913, assumed to be Janel 1 ABBR 8 lb daughter born 21 Apr 1913, assumed to be Janel 1 QUAY 2 1 TEXT The date is the date of the paper and may not be the actual birth date. 1 _ITALIC Y 1 _PAREN Y 0 @S7@ SOUR 1 REPO @REPO5@ 1 _TYPE Birth Registration 1 TITL Lois Hannah Kobersteen born June 17, 1923 in Milwaukee, Milwaukee, 2 CONC Wisconsin 1 ABBR Lois Hannah Kobersteen born June 17, 1923 in Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1 QUAY 3 1 TEXT Lois Hannah Kobersteen born June 17, 1923 in Milwaukee, Milwaukee, 2 CONC Wisconsin to Carl Lewis Kobersteen and Hannah nee Berdall. 0 @S8@ SOUR 1 REPO @REPO6@ 1 _TYPE Marriage Certificate 1 TITL Marriage Certificate 1 ABBR Marriage Certificate 1 _MASTER Y 0 @S9@ SOUR 1 REPO @REPO7@ 1 _TYPE Marriage Registration 1 TITL Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005 1 ABBR Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005 0 @S10@ SOUR 1 REPO @REPO7@ 1 _TYPE Social Security Death Index 1 TITL Social Security Death Index, CA 1 ABBR Social Security Death Index, CA 1 QUAY 2 1 _MASTER Y 0 @S11@ SOUR 1 REPO @REPO7@ 1 _TYPE Census 1 TITL 1895 WI state census 1 ABBR 1895 WI state census 1 _MASTER Y 0 @REPO1@ REPO 1 NAME Social Security Death Index 1 ADDR Ancestry.com 0 @REPO2@ REPO 1 NAME Californial Death Index 1 ADDR Ancestry.com 0 @REPO3@ REPO 1 NAME Sheboygan Press 1 ADDR Sheboygan, Sheboygan, Wisconsin 0 @REPO5@ REPO 1 NAME Milwaukee County Vital Records 0 @REPO6@ REPO 1 NAME Washington State Digital Archives 1 ADDR www.digitalarchives.wa.gov 0 @REPO7@ REPO 1 NAME ancestry.com 0 TRLR