ARCHIVED CHAT FOR (10-12-99chat.htm) Ladd Digging Ground


>Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 8:51 PM
>Subject: Ladd Genealogy
>
>>** LUDDSHAR just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (2 members now) **
>>LUDDSHAR> Hello Janet
>>.Janet> Hi Sharon
>>LUDDSHAR> I don't know much about this William D. Ladd.
>>LUDDSHAR> Hi Donald.
>>** KYLADDS just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (4 members now) **
>>LUDDSHAR> Hi Misty
>>.Janet> Hi Misty
>>.Donald> Hi Misty!
>>.Janet> Let's see what we know about William D. Ladd, b. 1813
>in Ohio.
>>KYLADDS> I have started putting the ladds into a database finally!
>>.Janet> Oh my--ALL the Ladds?
>>KYLADDS> But don't have any Ohio ones.
>>.Janet> Do you go by where they were born?
>>LUDDSHAR> I can help with the Ohio ones too.
>>.Janet> If a Ladd is born in Virginia and then goes to Ohio to live all
his
>life, is he a VA Ladd or an OH Ladd?
>>.Donald> This is as much as I have on William D.
>>KYLADDS> Well, starting with the major lines, since my line dead ends so
>quickly! LOL
>>.Donald> b. 1813 Ohio, d. 1872 IN
>>.Donald> s/o Amos Terrell LADD
>>KYLADDS> Both!
>>.Donald> & Sarah BARR
>>.Donald> m. Sarah PRICE
>>.Donald> no marriage date
>>.Donald> at least 5 children
>>.Janet> Do you have the 1850 census info on him?
>>.Donald> all born in Vigo Co. IN
>>.Janet> Where is that coming from Donald?
>>.Donald> Elizabeth b. abt 1835 d. 1920 Luther Twp OK Terr
>>.Donald> Amanda b abt 1837 NFI
>>.Donald> Leonard b. abt 1840  NFI
>>.Donald> William G.  b. abt 1844  NFI
>>.Janet> Elizabeth, Amanda, Leonard, and William G. were all born in
Indiana
>according to the 1850 census.
>>LUDDSHAR> I have birth dates of these children.  Do you need them
>>.Janet> Yes, Sharon, and where did the dates come from?
>>LUDDSHAR> [email protected]
>>LUDDSHAR> Mary b. abt 1831 in Ohio
>>LUDDSHAR> Elizabeth b. abt 1835 in Indiana M. William J. Morgan
>>LUDDSHAR> These are all about dates.
>>LUDDSHAR> Leonard b. abt 1840
>>LUDDSHAR> William J or G b. abt 1844
>>LUDDSHAR> Amanda b. abt 1837
>>.Janet> It was Lyn who posted on the list about William.
>>.Janet> I don't see the Mary b. abt 1831.
>>LUDDSHAR> Leonard's children:  John, William, Alfred "Al" & Charles.  I
>have no dates.
>>.Janet> Is this out of the Warren Ladd book?  do you know?
>>LUDDSHAR> I have some notes on the family
>>LADD1> is Amos Terrell LADD the s/o Robert LADD & Mary TERRELL?
>>LADD1> in Sandusky Ohio, before 1813
>>LUDDSHAR> I have him listed as the son of Amos Terril
>>LUDDSHAR> Sorry, Amos Terril is the son of Cornelius.
>>LADD1> Is there more than one Amos Terrell LADD?
>>.Janet> Sam said that the info an Amos Terril Ladd's ancestors is from the
>Warren Ladd book which Thomas Mifflin Ladd repeated in his 1964 book.  The
>info on Amos Terril Ladd's descendants is strictly from the Thomas Mifflin
Ladd book.
>>.Janet> His question then was...is the William shown as a son to Amos
>Terril Ladd, the William D. Ladd b. 1813 in Ohio???
>>.Janet> Donald, I do see another Amos Terril Ladd born to Cornelius Ladd
>and Sarah Hoiles.  No date.
>>.Janet> Do we know when Amos Terril Ladd (the first one) died?
>>LADD1> which one is the first one?
>>.Janet> Amos Terril Ladd that some suspect as being the father of William
>D. Ladd.
>>.Janet> If Elizabeth b. 1826 was b. in Indiana we should be able to look
at
>the 1830 census of Indiana and see who is there.
>>LADD1> Then which one is the second one?
>>.Janet> Amos Terril Ladd the son of Cornelius is the second one.
>>LADD1> I don't have the Cornelius in my data!
>>.Janet> In 1830, the only Ladd in Vigo County (and it's wrong in the
>printed index as Clin. Co.) is a Noble.
>>.Janet> Cornelius must be in the Mifflin book.
>>LADD1> Janet, do you have the 1820 or 1840 census for IN?
>>.Janet> I have the printed 1820, and some of the 1840.
>>LUDDSHAR> I have info on 1860 Census on William D. Ladd
>>LUDDSHAR> The generations of William D. Ladd (what I have) are:
>>LUDDSHAR> John Ladd (the immigrant)
>>LUDDSHAR> William Ladd
>>LUDDSHAR> James Ladd
>>LUDDSHAR> James Ladd
>>LUDDSHAR> James Binford Ladd
>>LUDDSHAR> Cornelius Ladd
>>LUDDSHAR> Amos Terril Ladd
>>LUDDSHAR> William D. Ladd
>>LUDDSHAR> Spelled Terill
>>.Janet> Who is the Noble then on the 1830 Vigo Co., IN census?
>>.Janet> Noble Ladd, 1840 age 60-70, wife's age 50-60.  One son listed 5-10
>years, and one dau 10-15 another dau 15-20.
>>LADD1> If Cornelius dob is 25 Jun 1806 then William D. dob 1813, cannot be
>his grand son
>>.Janet> Lyn wrote:  I have this from a descendant from the daughter of
>William D. Ladd, Amanda...
>>LUDDSHAR> The dates have to be wrong then.
>>LADD1> I do have Cornelius in my data  just not extended beyond his
>Father's data page.
>>.Janet> William D. Ladd m. Sarah Price.  His parents were Amos Terrill
Ladd
>who was b. about 1780 in Sandusky OH, m. to Sarah Barr, b. 1782.  Are we
>okay so far?
>>.Janet> The Sarah on the 1850 census was born 1782.
>>LADD1> All of James Binford LADd & Elizabeth VAUGHAN's children are well
>documented except James (jr) with a ca 1808 dob
>>.Janet> Then this descendant showed Amos Terrill Ladd as being the son of
>Cornelius Ladd b. June 25, 1806, d. 1891 in Ohio, m. to Sarah Hoiles.
>>.Janet> Is it Cornelius b. in 1806 or Amos Terrill ??
>>.Janet> Next line says Cornelius a son of James Binford Ladd, b. Feb. 11,
>1770 w. married Elizabeth Vaughn.
>>.Janet> I am VERY confused!
>>LADD1> Cornelius dob1806
>>.Janet> If we look at the 1850 census, the Sarah the we suspect as being
>William's mother was Sarah, b. 1782.  She is widowed.  Did Amos Terrill
Ladd
>died before 1850?
>>.Janet> There's no Amos in Indiana in 1830 or in 1820.  Going by the 1850
>census they were in Ohio in 1822 but in Indiana in 1826.
>>.Janet> Do any of you have the 1820 census index for Ohio?  Is there an
>Amos listed?
>>LADD1> None of Gerrard LADD descendants qualify as their dob is later than
>what we are looking for and none are names Amos
>>KYLADDS> nothing I type goes through
>>LADD1> The LADDs that went up to Ohio in the Smithfield area might be
listed
>in the Quaker minutes for Ohio
>>.Janet> Do you think Amos went to the Smithfield area?
>>LADD1> No  but Robert LADD & Mary TERRELL did!
>>LADD1> I can't recall all the LADD families that went into this area and
>joined the Quaker MM there
>>LADD1> Smithfield is on the eastern side of Ohio, Sandusky is on the Lake
>>LADD1> not a great distance to travel, I suppose if work was available
>there
>>LADD1> Does anyone have the Quaker minutes for Ohio?
>>.Janet> It's 1820 and 1830 listings from AIS but I don't think they got
>everybody.
>>LADD1> I can't recall ever seeing it!
>>.Janet> I don't have any Quaker minutes, sorry to say.
>>LUDDSHAR> no
>>LADD1> that would be vol V of Hinshaw's works I believe
>>LADD1> Virginia is vol VI is it not?
>>.Janet> AIS (Accelerated Indexing System??) 1820:  Amos Lad in Surry Co.,
>NC; Amos Ladd in Henrico Co. VA, and Amos Ladd in Pendleton Co., SC.
>>.Janet> Are the Quaker minutes on the web?
>>LADD1> I believe not but would not know where to look for it if it were!
>>.Janet> 1820 Ohio:  Asa Ladd in Fairfield Tp, Highland Co., Ohio.
Benjamin
>W. Ladd in Smithfield, Jefferson Co., OH., Daniel Jr. in Mantua, Portage
>Co., Oh.,  David Ladd in Kenia Town, Green Co., Ohio.
>>.Janet> David Ladd in Mantua, Portage Co., Ohio.....do you already have
all
>this or should I keep going?
>>LADD1> Does Salt Lake have these volumns?
>>.Janet> I'm not sure Donald.
>>LADD1> I beleive that this David is of the Daniel LADD line of Haverhill

>>.Janet> Did you want more 1820 Ohio Ladd's?
>>LADD1> does it break them down by county?
>>.Janet> Actually this list is by first name...all Lad, Ladd, Ladds, Sad,
>and Sadd.
>>LADD1> do you know why the SAD & SADD names are included?
>>.Janet> I asked for them because the "L" and the "S" look so much alike on
>the early census.  My Constantine in 1850 is in the index of Ark. as Sadd.
>>.Janet> The list I have was requested in 1978 and I know not all the
states
>were indexed then.
>>LADD1> Then you have to ask for the equivilient of L300 for
>>LADD1> SAD &SADD?
>>.Janet> I didn't ask for the printout by soundex codes, just by names if I
>remember correctly.
>>.Janet> But, yes, if you want to search for Sadd, it's a different code
>entirely.
>>.Janet> Probably S300.
>>LADD1> makes sense
>>.Janet> It's sure a pain!
>>LADD1> I can see where it would be!
>>.Janet> Usually I think they get it indexed correctly, but if you can't
>find someone, it's worth trying.
>>.Janet> Well, we didn't get far with William D., or Amos Terril did we?
>>LADD1> Was Robert LADD & Mary TERRELL indexed in Ohio around 1820?
>>.Janet> Is it Amos Terril that you think might be Quaker?
>>LADD1> If he is actually the s/o Robert & Mary
>>.Janet> No Robert in Ohio
>>LADD1> he may be
>>.Janet> Robert in Charles City Co., VA, Henry Co., KY, Orange Co., VT, and
>Robert G. in Monroe Co., KY.
>>LADD1> I wonder if the Quakers refused to give personal information?
>>LADD1> Robert & Mary may have returned to VA  ????
>>.Janet> Or it could be another Robert Ladd, right?
>>LADD1> right!
>>.Janet> Here's the 1810 Robert Ladd in Virginia...Charles City Co.  BRB
>>LADD1> Robert G.  may be the Robert G  that married in Bourbon Co Ky in
>1809
>>.Janet> Robert 00010-20301-20
>>.Janet> Do you have the key for the 1810?
>>.Janet> There were other Ladds really close by too.
>>LADD1> no key
>>.Janet> Benjamin W. #955 (man this writing is little!), James D. #940,
>Jesse, #956, John #938, Peter #954, Robert #955, Samuel #954.
>>LADD1> Benjamin W. & Robert have the same call number?
>>.Janet> Males left to right Under 10, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45, 45 & over.
Same
>for females, and then All others, then slaves.
>>LADD1> as does Peter & Samuel?
>>.Janet> Same page.
>>LADD1> oh
>>LADD1> I thought it was the dwelling number
>>.Janet> Not on this one I think
>>LADD1> Well, it is now 7ish  do we continue or what?
[We decided to exit the chat]


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