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> .Janet> Hi Donald
> .Janet> Hi Sharon
> LUDDSHAR> Hi all
> .Sharon> Donald, sounds like the whole Ladd clan is ganging up on you.
> .Janet> Yes, no one seems to want to miss the fun!
> .LaddofOhio@aol.c> Hi you guys...I have my ARMOR on so have at it!
> ** KYLADDS just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (4 members now) **
> ** BOOKLOVER1 just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (5 members now) **
> KYLADDS> Been awhile since I've been here!!!
> BOOKLOVER1> Greetings and Felicitations!
> .Janet> Hi Misty!  Hi Lee!!
> KYLADDS> Hey!!
> BOOKLOVER1> Hi Misty!  Hi Janet!
> .Sharon> Hi Misty, Hi Lee
> .LaddofOhio@aol.c> Hi Misty  Ididn't see you come aboard  Hi Lee
> BOOKLOVER1> Hi Donald!  <g>
> ** WALTWILEY just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (6 members now) **
> WALTWILEY> Hi, all!
> .Janet> Hello Walt!!!
> .Sharon> Hi Walt
> BOOKLOVER1> Hi Walt
> KYLADDS> someone sent me a photo of an extended ancestor and i have lost
it!
> BOOKLOVER1> I have one somewhere that shows several generations of Ladds
> KYLADDS> I did get a wonderful pic of my father when he was about 8-10 yrs
old
> KYLADDS> His father was in the pic and looks just him!!
> BOOKLOVER1> My dad's generation are all gone but my one uncle
> KYLADDS> If I knew who sent me the photo i could sort by name and maybe
find it but I don't remember who it was!
> BOOKLOVER1> I have a recent picture of my brother and he looks a lot like
my grandpa Ladd
> KYLADDS> Our line was died out until my brother at age 37 had a son last
Nov 10th. Boy was he proud!!!
> BOOKLOVER1> Too cool, Misty!  Congratulations!
> KYLADDS> When I saw the little guy he looked like one my kids so I know
he'll be Ladd through and through!
> BOOKLOVER1> I've emailed all my Ladd folk that have Internet access (to my
knowledge) to let them know about the LDG and the email list
> .Janet> Good for you Lee!
> KYLADDS> Does anyone know anything about Benj Sr form Ky-Tn???
> .Janet> No, but I am interested in the Ladd - Wood connection as I have
that too.
> WALTWILEY> Misty, are you from Kentucky, or what?
> KYLADDS> no, but the Ladds i seek are
> KYLADDS> I was raised in Southeast Mo
> KYLADDS> You know....The Show me state
> BOOKLOVER1> Humph -- all genealogists should be from MO then!  LOL
> WALTWILEY> I was raised in SE Kansas. That's close to Missouri.
> .Janet> I've forgotten where all of us are.  I'm in California.  Cold,
windy and rainy today.
> BOOKLOVER1> Delaware here (yes Virginia there really is a Dela-WHERE??)
> KYLADDS> i am in Southern Illinois, 50ish nice for us
> .Sharon> South Dakota.  Cold and windy today.
> .Donald> Arnold LADD, the one that said he couldn't be here tonight, said
there is a Laddonia in MO  and was names for an Amos LADD  he didn't give
more details
> WALTWILEY> I'm in Washington (the state).
> KYLADDS> How close to Cape Gir???? Kansas??
> KYLADDS> Well I was interested in the info that the cato lady sent on
benj. I haven't had a chance to run it by LaVern. Has anyone heard from her
lately??
> .Janet> No, haven't seen LaVerne online lately.  Misty, you posted the
obituary for Earl Ladd in Muleshoe, Texas.  Do you know any of his
descendants?
> KYLADDS> No, I don't. Either someone sent it to me or I had it in my mess
of papers
> .Janet> I tried writing to the business he had, thinking a son had taken
it over, but no reply.
> KYLADDS> Does his family names look familar to you??
> .Janet> No.  But Earl M. Ladd was the son of John A. Ladd and Felcia May
Ladd.  John A. Ladd b. 1874, ARk. was the son of Milton Ladd, b. abt 1826,
of Scott Co., Ark. and probably the son of Joseph and Hester Ladd.  Milton
was most likely the brother to my Constantine Ladd, b. 1812 Indiana.
> .Donald> Sharon and I have a lineage loss also, Harold LADD in Illinois
died about 2 weeks ago or so.
> .Donald> I shall get his sister to send me his obit  and post it to the
LDG
> .Sharon> Harold was a wood carver.
> .Sharon> Charles Gray sent me the info.
> WALTWILEY> Good night, all.
> WALTWILEY> - signed off -
> KYLADDS> Good night!!
> ** BONES95 just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (6 members now) **
> KYLADDS> I posted all the obits and there are now 67
> .Bones> Hi Donald..  :-)
> BOOKLOVER1> Wow MIsty
> BOOKLOVER1> Hi Bones
> .Bones> Hi everybody
> KYLADDS> Hi Bonnie!
> .Bones> Misty?  Hi!
> KYLADDS> I wish everyone would send what they have in their files
> .Sharon> Hi Bonnie
> KYLADDS> We could really get a collection of obits!
> .Janet> Hi Bonnie!
> .Bones> Oh lord Misty.. I would be here for a long time typing.. I have
alot of stuff that I have collected over the summer on my Ladds
> BOOKLOVER1> I ought to see if I can find my grandpa's, dad's, uncle's and
nephew's obits....
> .Sharon> I do have more obits that I plan on sending
> KYLADDS> There are alot of newspapers online now who post daily obits, If
I ever had some extra time I would surf for some
> .Bones>  Misty, I have a very interesting article about my great uncle
Robert.. and how he died.. along with his obit.  Would you like me to send?
> KYLADDS> sure!!!  I have been working on LDG after a bit of a vaction!
LOL!
> .Bones> like you need more stuff to do right?  <GRIN>
> KYLADDS> I'm ready for some stuff to post to it!!!
> .Bones> I still need to scan those WWI pics of my great uncles for you too
> .Donald> If I get my scanner to work  I can send "more" stuff
> KYLADDS> I had some problems with my mail folders and they are helter
skelter but the info is all still there, just lost!
> .Bones> Janet.. were you the one who mentioned the "Ladd House" postcard
on ebay?
> .Janet> Yes Bonnie
> .Bones> I bought it..  :-)  I have a feeling it may have been owned by a
member of my line
> .Janet> Really Bonnie?  I'm glad!
> .Bones> also discovered a website that has a picture of the home my 5th
ggrandfather Nathaniel built.  It's still standing in Exeter, NH and is now
a museum
> KYLADDS> That is neat!!!
> .Bones> was also owned by the Gilman family after Nathaniel and his son's
moved on to Stratham
> .Bones> It is wonderful.. Am very anxious to get my heiny to New Hampshire
now!
> .Janet> It's so great what you can find, and get!, on the internet.
> .Bones> I know.. funny thing was, I had been to that site before and it
had mentioned the house but they didn't have the history or a pic at that
time
> ** SIDNEYLL just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (7 members now) **
> .Donald> Hi there Sidney
> .Sharon> Hello Sidney
> SIDNEYLL> Hi! Everyone.
> .Donald> R U a LADD researcher or a chat surfer?
> .Bones> Hi Sidney.. are you a Ladd researcher too?
> SIDNEYLL> I am a Ladd and have done some research.
> .Janet> Hello Sidney.  Tell us more!
> SIDNEYLL> Not as much as I'd like though. :)
> KYLADDS> Welcome!!!
> .Bones> which Ladd line do you come from?
> .Donald> Good!  tell us about it.  What line are you reseaching?
> SIDNEYLL> I am in Kentucky. Caldwell Co.  Descended from Samuel C. Ladd.
> KYLADDS> Hmmmmm Mine are from Trigg
> .Donald> And Samuel C. is descended from?
> SIDNEYLL> I am not sure, past that.
> .Donald> There are so many Samuels  it is hard to keep track.
> KYLADDS> What year was Samuel born in??
> KYLADDS> I am from the Ransom line if you know anything about him
> SIDNEYLL> This is the Samuel whose children were,  Dock, Bill, John, etc..
> .Donald> That is Samuel C. b. ca 1819?
> KYLADDS> Sidney, from what year???  It still doesn't ring a bell with me
> .Donald> married to a Sarah A ___?___
> SIDNEYLL> I don't know his date right off, his children were in the war
between the states, so early 1800's.
> KYLADDS> Ok Donald, who was Samuels father? You got that in your book???
> SIDNEYLL> Yes, We think it is Sarah Ann Sanders, not sure.  It is listed
as Ladd.  Or...Sue Ann Sanders
> .Sharon> I have Samuel married to Susannah Oliver Hilton
> .Donald> William Absolom, John H.  Joseph D/P, Susan, & D. [Dock]  ?
> .Janet> Sidney, were they from Caldwell Co, KY?
> SIDNEYLL> I saw his father listed as Harvey Hubbard Ladd, but not sure
that is correct.
> .Sharon> Must be a different Samuel C. Ladd, mine born in 1819
> SIDNEYLL> Well. Trigg and Caldwell County.
> .Donald> They were in Trigg Co  info from Charles of Smithville OK
> .Sharon> Susannah Oliver Hilton (I take that back, wrong)
> SIDNEYLL> It was early 1800's but I'd have to go look at the date to be
sure.
> .Janet> There was a Mary McAnally Ladd, widow of Constantine Ladd; he died
in 1801.  She married William Asher and moved to Caldwell County, KY.
> .Donald> 1850 census:  Bill A.  9 yrs; John H.  7 yrs; Susan E. 6 yr; D.
[Dock] 4 yr; Joseph D/P  1 yr
> KYLADDS> I have ALOT of ky notes!  I just can't get to them.
> SIDNEYLL> Later in my family the name, Samuel Clyde Ladd appears and
another with a middle name of Clarence.  Might be the C.
> .Donald> D. [Dock] had middle name of Stanley;  mothers maiden name?????
> SIDNEYLL> That is the right family in the 1850 census.
> SIDNEYLL> I have no idea where the Stanley came from.  He was named Doctor
Stanley Ladd.
> .Donald> I have additional children after 1850:  Lee; Alice B.  and
another William  [???]
> .Donald> Was he born about the time STANLEY located LIVINGSTON?
> SIDNEYLL> I don't know about the Alice B, but I suspect the Lee as being
their child but can't find anyone who knows about him here.
> SIDNEYLL> Yep, I've thought about the Livingston idea. :)
> .Donald> I have a marriage date for Samuel of ca 1840.  Have you found any
marriage cert?
> SIDNEYLL> My father is still living and he knew most of them.  He is 97
now.
> .Janet> There are several Ladds on the 1850 KY index close by and of the
right age to be Samuel's father too.
> SIDNEYLL> I have suspected, John Sr. but can't find any records.
> SIDNEYLL> No cert, but that date sounds correct.
> .Janet> I have in a little notation that John Sr. was b. in SC, is that
right?
> .Donald> I have a death date for both William Absolom of 04 Nov 1921 and
for Dock or as he is listed S.D as of 31 Jan 1935  have you found any death
certs on them?
> .Janet> About 1794 -- John Ladd Sr., b. SC -- have anything Donald?
> .Donald> no parents listed for Sam C.
> SIDNEYLL> William A has no death certificate.  I am in the process of
having one made now.  The other is correct, I think.
> SIDNEYLL> John Sr in SC sounds familiar.  Charles Ladd on the webpage had
his father listed as Harvey Hubbard.
> .Donald> I don't have a Harvey Hubbard in my file or is Hubbard a surname?
> SIDNEYLL> I had never seen it before either except there.  It was listed
Harvey Hubbard Ladd.
> .Donald> Sidney, Dock went by Stanley then instead of Doc[k]?
> SIDNEYLL> Both the Harvey and Hubbard name come up later on in my family.
> ** BOBBYSFMTR just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (7 members now) **
> SIDNEYLL> No, he was always known as Doc or Dock, however it was spelled.
> SIDNEYLL> His tombstone says D. S. Ladd.
> .Donald> Sidney,  I have a Samuel LADD married to a Martha HUBBARD but
this in the New England line  and probably has no bearing on this Samuel C.
> SIDNEYLL> Probably not directly, but that may be where the name came from.
Nice clue!
> .Donald> also too many years elapsed between the Samuels
> .Donald> NEng Samuel  b. 11 Apr 1744
> .Donald> could be a great grandfather though
> SIDNEYLL> Yes, might be.  Thanks.
> .Donald> Hi Bobby, sorry didn't mean to ignore you!
> BOBBYSFMTR> Hi everyone I see your still breathing Donald
> ** BOOKLOVER1 just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (8 members now) **
> .Donald> Yes they haven't been too hard on me, yet...the night isn't over
yet.
> BOBBYSFMTR> I knew you'd survive. Are we talking D.S. Ladd?
> .Donald> Yes Doctor Stanley LADD
> BOBBYSFMTR> I have a picture of his tombstone that Virginia sent to me.
> SIDNEYLL> I have a picture of Dock and his brother William A and their
wives.
> BOOKLOVER1> Hi Janet!
> BOBBYSFMTR> Hi Janet.
> .Janet> Hi all!
> .Donald> Sidney, are you in the LDG Directory?
> .Janet> But you are on the mailing list Sidney?
> SIDNEYLL> Yes, I have been reading them.
> .Donald> Sidney, then I shall be expecting an OK from you to enter you
information?
> SIDNEYLL> I do want to enter it sometime soon.
> .Donald> instructions were in my mail to the list today!
> SIDNEYLL> I am a little behind in reading all of them.  About 3 days
behind.
> .Donald> Sidney, then skip to todays and read the really important
stuff!!!!
> SIDNEYLL> hehe, Sounds like I should.
> BOBBYSFMTR> I know you probably told everyone but who are you researching
Sidney?
> SIDNEYLL> I am looking for Samuel C. Ladd's father.
> BOBBYSFMTR> I'm looking Elisha Ladd's father,
> .Sharon> Hang on, maybe I can help
> BOBBYSFMTR> Elisha Ladd my ggreatgrandfather.
> SIDNEYLL> Bobby is that the one in the late 1700's?
> .Sharon> Which Elisha, I have four
> BOBBYSFMTR> The one born in1798 in SC
> .Donald> I haVE 4 ALSO  NONE WITH PARENTS
> .Sharon> OK
> BOBBYSFMTR> His son Henry Franklin is my great grandfather.
> .Donald> I have none b. 1798 in SC
> .Sharon> Yes.
> .Sharon> Elisha Ladd b. 1798 in SC, lancaster Dist.
> .Sharon> d. 1854 in Trigg Co., KY
> .Sharon> M. Elizabeth Johnson
> SIDNEYLL> Bobby, I think I may have a suspicion on that one but I don't
have my records here with me right now.
> .Sharon> children Elisha b. 1853, Evander and William
> BOBBYSFMTR> He was married to Oneida Goode
> SIDNEYLL> I think of Elijah, John or Amos, right now.
> BOBBYSFMTR> Some think he was the son of Benjamin
> BOBBYSFMTR> Donald you have 4 without parents?
> .Donald> I have a Elisha b. abt 1812 with a son Henry F.[middle name?]
> .Sharon> Yes, (1) elizabeth Johnson
> .Sharon> (2) sally Wallis
> .Sharon> (3) Oneida Goode
> BOBBYSFMTR> Yes he was married to all three
> BOBBYSFMTR> I had thought of Amos too.
> .Sharon> Yes, s/o benjamin Ladd 7 Sarah F. unknown
> .Donald> then my dob of abt 1812 is incorrect  as I have him married to
Sally WALLIS 04 Jan 1832K
> BOBBYSFMTR> Sarah F. was his sister
> .Donald> if he was married before Sally and after Sally were there other
children than the 4 listed here under mother Sally?
> BOBBYSFMTR> YOU meant the Sarah married to Benj.?
> .Sharon> m. Sally Wallis in 1832 and Oneida Good June 7, 1838
> .Sharon> no M. date for elizabeth Johnson
> BOBBYSFMTR> Was that Sarah F. Binford?
> .Donald> 1850 census Trigg co.  Edward  age 11, Sarah F.  age 6, Francis
M. age 3 & Henry F.  age 1
> BOBBYSFMTR> Thats the one
> BOBBYSFMTR> Henry is my g-grandfather
> .Donald> Then all these children belong to Onieda?
> BOBBYSFMTR> Yes
> .Donald> And is Francis M = Francis Marion LADD?
> BOBBYSFMTR> There could have been children by the other marriages I don't
know.
> BOBBYSFMTR> Yes Francis Marion
> .Sharon> I have children of elisha and Oneida as Edward b. b. 1839, sarah
Francis "Fannie" b. 2 7 1844, francis marion b. 1847, Henry franklin b. Jan
1849 and elisha b. 1853
> .Donald> Are you aware of any other Francis Marions?
> BOBBYSFMTR> I was told there were children by his first wife but I don't
know who they are.
> BOBBYSFMTR> I 'm not sure I'll have to check.
> .Sharon> They are Elisha b. 1853, Evander & William
> .Sharon> no children listed for Sally Wallis
> .Donald> We, Kathy and I, spent the 4th of July at the family reunion of
descendants of a Francis Marion and __ WOMACK  same or not?
> BOBBYSFMTR> He was married to Emoline Womack
> BOBBYSFMTR> Jan. 9, 1868
> BOBBYSFMTR> Actually I have Milly Emoline
> .Donald> Then one of the descendants lives within 15 mi of us here in
Oregon  others came from TX and Montana and elsewhere
> .Janet> 1850 Trigg Co., KY, has both Elisha, 52, b. SC, page 326 and John
C., 56, b. SC, page 303.  Possible brothers?????  That would make Sidney and
Bobby related.
> .Donald> The oldest was a 97 and Lives in Salem OR
> SIDNEYLL> Yep, it would if John C is correct in my line.
> BOBBYSFMTR> Did they mention anything about Marions Father?
> BOBBYSFMTR> Hey another cousin?
> .Donald> I didn't mean 97  I don't know why I said that!!!
> .Donald> I was supposed to get with them for more genealogy information
and then they changed servers and I had a wrong phone number for them  have
just got back in contact
> .Donald> they are in the Directory...LECKIE
> .Janet> Donald do you have a Ladd with sons Elisha and John C. both b. in
SC??
> SIDNEYLL> There is a John Sr and a John Jr.
> .Donald> he was 80 something...that is all I can remember
> BOBBYSFMTR> Well so now you will have to ask them Donald. Maybe we can
solve this probem.  Let us know when you find out.
> BOBBYSFMTR> With all the children that are supposed to be Benj. there
isn't a John C.
> .Sharon> Bobby, since I had infor on elisha Ladd, this means that he is in
my family.  I only save my own family history.
> .Donald> no  one in CT, one in OH, the Trigg Co one, & Elisha Porter in
MI, IL, & ND.
> .Bones> good night all..  :-)
> .Sharon> good night
> .Bones> - signed off -
> SIDNEYLL> Nite! Bones
> BOBBYSFMTR> On the 1850 census John C. is 22 and Elisha is 52.
> .Donald> Bobby, that was a hint for you to use the Directory...again the
name is John & Debbie LECKIE
> BOBBYSFMTR> OK theres another John that's 56.
> BOBBYSFMTR> I thought you were talking about another of my relatives Her
name was Electra
> BOBBYSFMTR> Just kidding I've talked to Debbie I think
> SIDNEYLL> Bobby, where are you?  I am in Kentucky.
> BOBBYSFMTR> I'm in OK.
> BOBBYSFMTR> What part of KY
> SIDNEYLL> West.  Caldwell Co, Next to Trigg Co.
> BOBBYSFMTR> My grandfather was born there and I still have cousins there
> .Donald> Bobby  then why weren't you to the reunion ?
> BOBBYSFMTR> They didn't invite me <g>
> SIDNEYLL> Which county do you mean?
> .Donald> We were the only ones there with the LADD surname!  But they
would have welcomed any one with a LADD lineage!
> BOBBYSFMTR> He was born in Christian co. but on all the census it said
Trigg.
> SIDNEYLL> Where do your cousins live?  Which town?
> BOBBYSFMTR> They did live in Depoy but moved to Greenville
> SIDNEYLL> Never heard of Depoy but I know where Greenville is but don't
know people that far away.

> .Janet> Well, we managed to totally avoid any discussion of records to
research so now we have a topic for next time!  But we did get some good
stuff in...Elisha, John C., etc.
> BOBBYSFMTR> One of these days we'll find their father I hope.
> BOBBYSFMTR> I can't see any gray
> .Janet> Have you checked into who was in SC in 1790-1800?
> .Sharon> I hope we get to those sources next time.
> .Janet> Three hours is a pretty long chat.
> .Sharon> I could use some help
> .Janet> Let's make it a point to do that Sharon!
> .Sharon> OK.  See you all next time.
> .Donald> Sounds good to me!
> .Janet> Bye Sharon!
> .Sharon> - signed off -
> BOBBYSFMTR> We can all use help I think we've got to the point where were
stuck
> .Janet> I know I am Bobby!
> .Donald> bye to all   I shall close shop for us!
> BOBBYSFMTR> See ya next time
> .Janet> Night Bobby and Donald!

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