Logging at 9-MAR-1999 19:01) .Bill Prokasy> This is my first venture in this chat group...what's the usual gossip? .Janet> Are you a Ladd researcher? .Bill Prokasy> Yes, I'm a Ladd researcher for Ladds through mid-1800's .Janet> I'm a descendant of Constantine Ladd, b. 5 Sept 1812 Terre Haute Indiana, you? .Bill Prokasy> I believe we've been in correspondence. My most recent male Ladd is Isaac, who moved to Warren Ohio ca 1800 .Janet> Oh, Bill! Sorry, took me a minute. I'm the one who sent you the Isaac Ladd stuff. We have the name Isaac Ladd in common, however they are two different Isaacs. _** DENISEDREW just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (3 members now) ** .Janet> Hi Denise...just getting started here. Meet Bill. .Janet> Bill, it is possible to log the chat and have it sent to you afterwards. Sometimes that's nice if you can't write fast enough and want to take notes. /LOG then your email address. .Bill Prokasy> Do either of you know of any Ladd books besides that of Warren Ladd? .Janet> There are several others. Misty has some listed on her web site. Most of the Thomas Mifflin book was transcribed to her site by Sam Ladd. DENISEDREW> Sam has done a good job on this .Janet> Yes, that was a big job! Even scanning it--lots of correcting to do. Bill, There were a couple of sites on the internet listing the building that your Isaac Ladd built. Have you found those. .Bill Prokasy> Yes, Janet. I've actually been in Warren to visit the probate court and library. .Janet> How nice! I've forgotten now where you live--which state? DENISEDREW> do you have the url for that ?? .Bill Prokasy> I live in Athens, Georgia--the Classic City. .Janet> Hmm...Denise, I'd have to look for it again. Bill? .Bill Prokasy> I can't find the website now. AT least I don't see it on my bookmarks. .Janet> I'll look for it and email you Denise. .Bill Prokasy> Are either of you related to the Ladds of northeastern Ohio (there were the Ladds of Erie County as well as those of Trumbull County DENISEDREW> Bill, are you able to access your ged files now? DENISEDREW> I have been going through my DAR file and find that I have DENISEDREW> Samuel Cowes married to Charlotte Haven Ladd and the DAr spells it as CONES DENISEDREW> Any one else know which is correct? .Bill Prokasy> I can access my files, yes .Janet> I don't THINK I am. I'm not totally sure of Constantine's parentage. Probably Joseph Ladd of Sevier Co., Ark. Donald has Ohio Ladd's. DENISEDREW> Could you check which spelling you have please? .Bill Prokasy> Denise...I have the Samuel Cowes/Charlotte Ladd connection in my database .Bill Prokasy> The spelling of Cowes comes from Warren Ladd--Samuel Eliot Cowes DENISEDREW> So, the DAR listing is incorrect then .Janet> Be careful--you know Warren Ladd is incorrect sometimes too... .Bill Prokasy> I wouldn't say that the DAR listing is incorrect. I've found errors in Ladd's book (one of them involving one of my ggggrandmothers). I suspect an independent check is needed DENISEDREW> How accurate do you all feel the DAR lines are? DENISEDREW> I was under the impression that they had to be proven before they were accepted. _** KYLADDS just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (4 members now) ** .Janet> That was my impression too--but I haven't used them. Hi Misty. KYLADDS> Hi everyone DENISEDREW> Hello Misty KYLADDS> Hi Denise .Janet> It seems that with more information on the net and elsewhere, we have more information to verify! Misty, meet Bill, new to the chat. KYLADDS> Hi Bill! What is your line?? .Bill Prokasy> To go back to the northeast Ohio Ladds, if you are descendants of Daniel, then you are related to them. One is of interest if you like famous cousins: George Trumbull Ladd philosopher and .Bill Prokasy> psychologist whose textbooks were influential in establishing experimental psychology in the United States .Bill Prokasy> Hello Misty. My line is through Isaac Ladd of Warren, Ohio. Otherwise my line is being retired and doing absolutely nothing. DENISEDREW> Where are you having a problem with your line?? .Bill Prokasy> Where my blockage is on the Ladds: it is two-fold. The first part is Isaac Ladd's wife, Nancy Reeves. I cannot find her parents. The second are the offspring of the descendants of Isaac Ladd, for .Bill Prokasy> which I have but sketchy information. .Janet> Bill, did any of what I sent you help on the descendants? .Bill Prokasy> Janet..it did help some, but there is some confusion. For example, I've run into an Irwin Ladd and an Erwin Ladd and it's not evident that they're the same person. I suspect that a trip to Akron, .Bill Prokasy> Ohio facilities will help on this. .Janet> You've probably done as many census records as you can?? _** DLLADD just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (5 members now) ** .Bill Prokasy> No--I have to schedule another trip to the Archives in Atlanta, but by the time I make the trip my plate is full from a number of other lines aswell .Bill Prokasy> Hello Don...I believe we've had some correspondence in the past. DENISEDREW> Glad you could join us Donald .Janet> Bill was asking about Descendants of Isaac Ladd of Warren, Ohio. I told him you knew everything about Ohio Ladds. .Donald> Isaac is of the New England LADDs .Donald> came to Ohio early 1800s DENISEDREW> Moved from New Hampshire to Warren in 1811 (Warren Daily DENISEDREW> Chronicle, October 9, 1916). From "History of the Western Reserve by Harriet DENISEDREW> Upton (1910): "Isaac Ladd...was a fine carpenter, and did the woodwork on the DENISEDREW> Warren Court house. The doorway is remembered by nearly a hundred persons DENISEDREW> living today in Trumbull County. It was a double door, with panes of glass, 8x9, in a DENISEDREW> sash on either side, and the frame over the door was part of a circle with glass cut in DENISEDREW> pieces of such shape as to fill in--that is, each pane was cut smaller at the bottom DENISEDREW> and flared like a fan. Mr. Ladd was the first man in Warren to own a diamond for DENISEDREW> glass cutting." .Donald> In the Book of Ohio, it talks about Isaac designing a court house at Warren but has since been torn down DENISEDREW> Did Isaac have three wives? .Bill Prokasy> Isaac Ladd had two wives, to my knowledge DENISEDREW> Which are?? DENISEDREW> Bill, do you have this one Nov 19 1826 Warren, Trumbull County, Ohio Theodocia KIBBEE .Bill Prokasy> Yes, theodocia was the second wife. DENISEDREW> Donald, have you heard back from that person who was from England?? .Donald> No I have not.... .Donald> that I can remember... DENISEDREW> I wish we could have had her stay around longer seeing that she had been researching for so long!! DENISEDREW> Any one receive anything new on the other side of the ocean?? .Bill Prokasy> Goodnight folks...time to get a few other things done... DENISEDREW> Has any one been in contact with a Thomas S ladd from Florida?? .Bill Prokasy> - signed off - DENISEDREW> He sent me a letter requesting info on his line and wondered if he might have an email address .Donald> I wrote to Thomas R. Ladd in Florida .Donald> He is also from Putnam Co Ohio, but comes from the NewEng branch too DENISEDREW> He says that his Grandfather-Albert was born in Searsmont , Maine on Jan13 1898 DENISEDREW> son of Elizabeth and William Ladd., son of Hannah and William Ladd .Donald> Would that be Hannah AYER & William LADD? DENISEDREW> Doesn't say,William Ladd, married to eliz died in the great flu epidemic was born apr 3 1853 DENISEDREW> Hannah Ayr is the only one I have too .Donald> Ok these are Haverhill MA people anyway with births too early late 1700s DENISEDREW> thats right.. guess I will have to disappoint him... .Donald> Did he say that these Williams were in the Warren Ladd book? DENISEDREW> no, nothing, thats why I thought if I knew what time zone he was in, i could phone him and find out more. DENISEDREW> The other person who wrote this week was looking for Straw information from Eastern United States. DENISEDREW> I don't have any Ladds married to one. _** GEURTS just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (5 members now) ** .Janet> Hello Geurts! GEURTS> Hi Janet .Janet> Are you researching the LADD surname? .Donald> Welcome to the LADD chat , GEURTS GEURTS> I'm interested in genealogy DENISEDREW> GEURTS,Have you been here before??? .Donald> which family lines? GEURTS> No, I'm surfing the USA GEURTS> Looking for Dutch relatives .Janet> I don't have any Dutch ancestors that I know of. What surnames are you looking for? GEURTS> Schaaf, vander .Janet> Nope, not me. DENISEDREW> Sorry, me neither .Janet> Any particular place in the US? GEURTS> I could have thought, they never married a Ladd GEURTS> Most Dutch went to Canada .Janet> Denise, tell Geurts you are in Canada. GEURTS> I know a family member went to Toronto in the 50's .Donald> 1850s or 1950s? DENISEDREW> that is 60 miles away from me GEURTS> Acton, I believe, 1950 DENISEDREW> closer still DENISEDREW> have you searched 411 for any of that name?? GEURTS> What's 411? DENISEDREW> a telepone directory on the internet GEURTS> Is it free? how do I find it? I'm from Holland DENISEDREW> http://canada411.sympatico.ca/ GEURTS> I will try it, thank you very much DENISEDREW> yes it is free, you might find an address of someone and you could write and query them about their lines .Janet> How fun to "talk" to someone in Holland! GEURTS> Thank you, I like it too DENISEDREW> we, Canucks, are friendly folks, and I have found the ones I have contacted very willing to help. Worst you can do is not get a reply GEURTS> What are Canucks? DENISEDREW> I have found a few friendly USAers too!!! DENISEDREW> Canucks...canadians GEURTS> I see DENISEDREW> GEURTS, would you be so kind as to give us your first name so we might address you informally GEURTS> Geurts is my first name, I can't help it .Janet> It's a good first name! GEURTS> It is a stupid Dutch name GEURTS> For 200 years in the family .Donald> what does Geurts mean in Dutch? GEURTS> Strong with a spear DENISEDREW> mine is lite of heart GEURTS> There is a female variant: Gerda After this we had a lively discussion about silly names, TV programs, plants, travel, etc., which I will edit out since it didn't have anything to do with the Ladd surname. Join us next chat and you may have a chance to converse with others in places all over the world!