(Logging at 22-JUN-1998 22:37) (When done use /NOLOG to send this log via e-mail to with subject line "Ladd Genealogy") DENISEDREW> that's all I have for this JAYNOODLE> Do you know what the SEAT means? Could it be something about where the arms is registered? DLLADD> Ok I have a picture oif the arms and of John to who it was granted when he was created a baronette JAYNOODLE> Now you need a scanner! KYLADDS> You HAVE a scanner! DLLADD> no the picture says john of 1473 ???? DLLADD> of county ket DLLADD> kent DENISEDREW> this I understand is where he was granted land DENISEDREW> I would love a copy of that one!! JAYNOODLE> DL, send me a copy and I will TRY to scan it to everyone! DLLADD> yes I layed out a linage from LADDE down thru John of Burlington NJ on MY chat earlier noone saw it JAYNOODLE> Well, IF I signed up for the log, I should be able to look at it later, right DL? DLLADD> LADDE abour 1400 his sone John ca 1440 DLLADD> I dont know do U get all LADD chats or particular ones JAYNOODLE> I signed up with ListBot for the Ladd chats--do I get all of them Misty? DENISEDREW> can you cut and paste that now for us? DLLADD> it was CLADD chat forum all I can tell U I didnt have any idea that I was setting up a chat JAYNOODLE> I probably won't get it. Yes, DL, cut and paste.... DLLADD> on that arms there is a wavey band thu the center on a silver shield with 3 escallops [2 at top one at bottom] with leopards head on the crest... KYLADDS> I am doing away with listbot. I have to manually send to everyone on the list. It is time consuming plus i have to had saved a log to get it. KYLADDS> I am going to post the chats on the page instead. I have denises chat alreay up DENISEDREW> hope you edited it JAYNOODLE> That should be sufficient! I didn't realize you had to do all that. Thought it happened automatically. KYLADDS> Nope, I didn't. Should I have? JAYNOODLE> If we were to edit tonight's chat there wouldn't be much left. DLLADD> yes lot of chaffe in it KYLADDS> It would have but listbot only takes a small message, and the chats were wayyyy toooo long so i had to do it manually KYLADDS> Of course someone could volunteer to do it! :-} KYLADDS> Janet and Donald, when are you going to host a chat? JAYNOODLE> I've already volunteered to LOOK at one of DD's pages! JAYNOODLE> Donald and I could co-host a chat. Kind of co-ed. We've ended up talking to just each other a couple of times anyway! :-) KYLADDS> That would work!!! DENISEDREW> come on Janet, nothing to it. You've been with this one all night JAYNOODLE> Trouble is I don't know anything... KYLADDS> Denise did a GREAT job! I have to tell you Denise, you really did good! JAYNOODLE> about LADD's KYLADDS> I have chats on my Jefferson Co., Il page and none have been as informative as yours was! JAYNOODLE> I hadn't read the chat yet. I should DENISEDREW> Thanks, but your humor carried it through JAYNOODLE> 've done that!! ** HUT123 just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (5 members now) ** DLLADD> missed most of that cause I had my head into my files looking for that arms description DLLADD> but did LOL on that hosting bit with JAY DLLADD> might work JAYNOODLE> Maybe you should have had your arms in there too, DL. Hello HUT123 KYLADDS> I looked for that greenleaf booklet and never did find it! DENISEDREW> Hi HUT123, forgotten who you are though HUT123> hello all KYLADDS> Hi Hut! DLLADD> OK JAY LOL you get them digs in I have thick armour DENISEDREW> Which line are you stuck on, Hut JAYNOODLE> If you weren't so much fun to tease! Who is Hut please? I'm Janet. HUT123> my husband descended from John Ladd, m.Bathsheba Lovett HUT123> I am Sandra Gilbreath KYLADDS> I am Misty JAYNOODLE> I have an ancestor, James Gilbreath Foss. Don't know where the Gilbreath came from. DLLADD> Hey a Soputhern LADD WELCOM WELCOM JAYNOODLE> I MIGHT be descended from John and Bathsheba also. HUT123> thanks, I thought I was too late tonite. DLLADD> Here tis do You all want to know what it says? KYLADDS> I guess I could too if Ransome was a son! DENISEDREW> YES!!! JAYNOODLE> Are you going to type it DL? How long is it? :-D DLLADD> OK be there with it soon go on for awhile without me :-D KYLADDS> Charles could never get in. We are going to keep trying and host a chat for a nother time DENISEDREW> It would be nice to have Charles as everyone says he knows all KYLADDS> He has done alot of work with the Ladds DENISEDREW> He puts alot into the Ladd digest and sure is appreciated JAYNOODLE> It's still early on the west coast! Something is goofed up there, because Charles said Delphi never asked for his password. He went off line so I can't do more. DENISEDREW> Where is he from? KYLADDS> I had trouble once and had to retype my password in even tho it was supposed to have been saved DENISEDREW> I always have to type mine in. JAYNOODLE> Charles is from TX. I'm happy to say we are most likely to be related. HUT123> John Ladd ,, Amos Ladd,, Noble Ladd,, Joseph Ladd,, William Ladd,, Boyd Ladd,, Franklin Ladd,, Wayne Manly Ladd, then my husband's mother, still living KYLADDS> He has the same time as I do....10:05. that is LATE! DENISEDREW> I'm just at 11pm KYLADDS> That is VERY late! JAYNOODLE> The sun has not yet set in California, it is 8:00! DENISEDREW> Do you have a web pageHut123 HUT123> I have the same time as KYLADDS KYLADDS> 8:00 is decent KYLADDS> Where are yo at Sandra? DLLADD> Arg [silver] a fesse [a horizontal band forming the middle third of an escutcheon] an escutcheon + a shield or shield sahped surface, on which a coat of arms is displayed], wavey, between three DLLADD> escallops [Shell] The Crest - a leopards head ppr Seat -Boughton House, near Faversham, Kent [crest = a heraldic devise placed above the shield ] HUT123> No I do not, but I love the LADD site, DENISEDREW> Have to wake Crystal every two hours so will have lots of time to catch up HUT123> I live In IN KYLADDS> I am in Illinois DENISEDREW> Good stuff Donald, that didn't take long DLLADD> Iv been tied up Hi there Hut welcom form Laddof Ohio HUT123> Hi JAYNOODLE> Wayne Manly Ladd from where? KYLADDS> I have a ton of things to put up! Have a lot of TN stuff. Janet sent me some stuff that still needs to go up. DENISEDREW> Ontario, Canada HUT123> IN JAYNOODLE> Give me an idea of years for Wayne, please. DENISEDREW> can I attach a text file to web page like you do when linking to a html KYLADDS> I have too many things going! Finally got the graphics up so that has freed up a bit more time KYLADDS> Yes Denise you can DLLADD> I have two versions of ths arms not sure wich is the truer one the crest differs in each HUT123> Wayne was b. in Grant Co.,IN 1900, d. Yuma, AZ HUT123> d. az in 1983 DENISEDREW> So, instead of making a ged file I can just post all 50 odd pages?? KYLADDS> Sure can! JAYNOODLE> I like what I hear Denise! KYLADDS> Is it in a txt format? DLLADD> John LADD's barronett tilte became extinct in a generation...must have sired only girls or the male heirs died before majority JAYNOODLE> Sandra, how long were your LADD's in Indiana? DLLADD> delete tilte insert title DENISEDREW> Well, Janet, shall we call that good and not bother to do all that typing? JAYNOODLE> Yes, Yes!!! JAYNOODLE> Donald did you see that? HUT123> Wayne, Franklin, Boyd, b. 1837/IN, DENISEDREW> OK, text file it is, Donald, you are of the hook!! HUT123> I mean Wayne, Franklin, Boyd all b.IN KYLADDS> Saves you al ot of space to do it that way too DENISEDREW> sorry, 'off' the hook JAYNOODLE> Sandra, My Constantine Ladd b. 1812, Terre Haute, Indiana. But I think he was in Arkansas before 1820. We think his father was a Joseph Ladd. DLLADD> Boyd 4715 s/o William LADD 4662 and Isabel BOYD DENISEDREW> I have found a spot on net that gives you unlimited space so will sign on ther for a web page and post it shortly. KYLADDS> Where is that at? DENISEDREW> have to go have a look, be right back HUT123> yes I have Boyd s/o William Ladd & Isabella Boyd JAYNOODLE> Are those numbers from Warren's book? DLLADD> William s/o Joseph LADD 4649 and Catherine BACY-DAMERON DLLADD> they are HUT123> YES YES JAYNOODLE> TAke it DL JAYNOODLE> You're back farther than I can go at this point Sandra! HUT123> Joseph s/o Noble Ladd & Judith Dameron DLLADD> Joseph s/o Nobel LADD 4389 and Judith [DAVIS] s/o DLLADD> AMOS 4382 and Mary PERKINS son of JOHN 4380 HUT123> Noble s/o Amos Ladd & Mary Perkins, yes you typed faster than I HUT123> yes yes DLLADD> but we differ on Judith HUT123> I do not know how my husband got the Dameron name DLLADD> was Judith married before? HUT123> let me get my other files DLLADD> I have both names and sorted through them but was Judith DAMERON husband Joseph.. will keep checking KYLADDS> I am lost.....do you know the parents of John who m Bathsheba? HUT123> i am checking HUT123> No i do not know John's parents DLLADD> no one has found that yet Misty KYLADDS> I have parents do you want what I have?......don't know about source DLLADD> John came to v HUT123> YES i would, Thanks DLLADD> VA prior to 1653 Oct DLLADD> Did John come from Eng? ** MTTL just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (6 members now) ** HUT123> yes John came from England DLLADD> no connection to family in Eng MTTL> hi all KYLADDS> I have Nicholas ans Emma Pemble DLLADD> Which Nicholas? DENISEDREW> - signed off - ** DENISEDREW just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (6 members now) ** KYLADDS> Father of Nicholas is Nicholas and Joan Parker DLLADD> Nicholas was the father of John of Burlington NJ of 1678 DENISEDREW> sorry about that computer seized up on me here is that url DLLADD> do you have dates on them" MTTL> anyone know of a hiram orin ladd from adrian mich? HUT123> I do not have Davis only Dameron DENISEDREW> http://members.spree.com/sg/default.asp?sid=CHrM1sOLZ29p815e1000 KYLADDS> Hang on, let me see what I have KYLADDS> This is not my line so i don't know where the info came from HUT123> I have John from Eng. buried in Lower Norfolk Co.,VA MTTL> well folks.. later:) MTTL> - signed off - KYLADDS> Descendants of Nicholas Ladd KYLADDS> 1 Nicholas Ladd Abt 1545 - KYLADDS> . +Joan Parker Abt 1565 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 John Ladd Bef 1586 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 Nicholas Ladd Abt 1590 - 1699 KYLADDS> ............ +Ellen Pemble Abt 1600 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Nicholas Ladd Abt 1636 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Margaret Ladd Abt 1638 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Judith Ladd Abt 1640 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 John Ladd Bef 1653 - 1680 KYLADDS> ....................... +Bathsheba Lovett - Abt 1674 KYLADDS> ................... *2nd Wife of John Ladd: KYLADDS> ....................... +Mary Ladd KYLADDS> ........ 2 Richard Ladd Abt 1592 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 Margaret Ladd Abt 1594 - KYLADDS> ............ +Richard Pepper Abt 1590 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 John Ladd Abt 1596 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 Susan Ladd Abt 1598 - KYLADDS> ............ +Valentine Austen Abt 1593 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 Thomas Ladd Abt 1600 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 Elizabeth Ladd Abt 1602 - KYLADDS> ............ +Francis Raworth Abt 1597 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 Michael Ladd Abt 1604 - DLLADD> I have a Hiram in NH but a dau married in PA could have moved west HUT123> WOW this is GREAT KYLADDS> There is about three generations further if you want it HUT123> YES, please go on:-) KYLADDS> Okay, hang on DLLADD> I sure hope that somebody did request a print out of this chat. cause I missed so much DLLADD> with watching my fingers and looking in the files..8^[ JAYNOODLE> I might get this one, but not yours. KYLADDS> Descendants of John Ladd KYLADDS> 1 John Ladd Abt 1440 - Abt 1476 KYLADDS> . +Cicely Unknown Abt 1444 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 John Ladd Abt 1470 - 1528 KYLADDS> ............ +Alice Oldefylde Abt 1474 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Stephen Ladd Abt 1496 - KYLADDS> ....................... +Alys Unknown KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Thomasin Ladd Abt 1526 - KYLADDS> .................................. +John Elvie Abt 1520 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Thomas Ladd Abt 1528 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Amy Unknown Abt 1533 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Robert Ladd Abt 1530 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Ursula Ladd Abt 1532 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Nycholas Ladd Abt 1534 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Alys Ladd Abt 1535 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Unknown Giles Abt 1530 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Maryon Ladd Abt 1537 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Sylvestor Ladd Abt 1539 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Unknown Briggs KYLADDS> .............................. 4 William Ladd Abt 1541 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 John Ladd Abt 1498 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Nicholas Ladd Abt 1545 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Joan Parker Abt 1565 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 John Ladd Abt 1547 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Thomas Ladd Abt 1500 - KYLADDS> ....................... +Elizabeth Mumbray Abt 1499 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Sylvester Ladd Abt 1524 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Vincent Nethersole Abt 1510 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Thomas Ladd Abt 1526 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Elizabeth Mumbray Abt 1530 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 John Ladd Abt 1528 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Thomasin Unknown Abt 1532 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Silvester Ladd Abt 1502 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Joan Ladd Abt 1504 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Nicholas Ladd Abt 1506 - KYLADDS> ....................... +Amy Unknown Abt 1510 - HUT123> WOW, FANTASTIC KYLADDS> Did you get that? /EXIT KYLADDS> - signed off - /JOIN 3 ** KYLADDS just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (5 members now) ** (Type Control-Z to exit back to menu) JAYNOODLE> Misty, Is that all on the Ladd Digging Grounds somewhere? /log misty@midwest.net (Already logging) (Logging 14353 bytes in 249 lines at 22-JUN-1998 23:28) (When done use /NOLOG to send this log via e-mail to with subject line "Ladd Genealogy") DLLADD> Ill send you postage Misty and you can sen that to me too I have they English LADD chart that I compiled but yours went so fast that I missed it KYLADDS> Descendants of John Ladd KYLADDS> 1 John Ladd Abt 1440 - Abt 1476 KYLADDS> . +Cicely Unknown Abt 1444 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 John Ladd Abt 1470 - 1528 KYLADDS> ............ +Alice Oldefylde Abt 1474 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Stephen Ladd Abt 1496 - KYLADDS> ....................... +Alys Unknown KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Thomasin Ladd Abt 1526 - KYLADDS> .................................. +John Elvie Abt 1520 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Thomas Ladd Abt 1528 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Amy Unknown Abt 1533 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Robert Ladd Abt 1530 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Ursula Ladd Abt 1532 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Nycholas Ladd Abt 1534 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Alys Ladd Abt 1535 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Unknown Giles Abt 1530 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Maryon Ladd Abt 1537 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Sylvestor Ladd Abt 1539 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Unknown Briggs KYLADDS> .............................. 4 William Ladd Abt 1541 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 John Ladd Abt 1498 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Nicholas Ladd Abt 1545 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Joan Parker Abt 1565 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 John Ladd Abt 1547 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Thomas Ladd Abt 1500 - KYLADDS> ....................... +Elizabeth Mumbray Abt 1499 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Sylvester Ladd Abt 1524 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Vincent Nethersole Abt 1510 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 Thomas Ladd Abt 1526 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Elizabeth Mumbray Abt 1530 - KYLADDS> .............................. 4 John Ladd Abt 1528 - KYLADDS> .................................. +Thomasin Unknown Abt 1532 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Silvester Ladd Abt 1502 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Joan Ladd Abt 1504 - KYLADDS> ................... 3 Nicholas Ladd Abt 1506 - KYLADDS> ....................... +Amy Unknown Abt 1510 - DENISEDREW> great stuff Misty didn't have any of that (Type Control-Z to exit back to menu) KYLADDS> Am I back????? HUT123> It went so fast have to get it from the site DLLADD> looks lik it /log misty@midwest.net (Already logging) (Logging 19553 bytes in 336 lines at 22-JUN-1998 23:31) (When done use /NOLOG to send this log via e-mail to with subject line "Ladd Genealogy") DLLADD> show off KYLADDS> Well, I won't send it again then JAYNOODLE> We may have to convince Misty to put that on the LDG! HUT123> I have never seen it on the site KYLADDS> Hubby is home....no time. He hates this thing. When he goes back to work I'll have more time! HUT123> My hubby just went to bed JAYNOODLE> SEnd it to us by the mailing list then...just like you just did! DENISEDREW> I think I have logged it. If so, I will send it to you all but do not have Hut 123 address DLLADD> then Misty you must have the linage of Daniel and Joseph of the NE LADDs and of John of NJ JAYNOODLE> But only once please! :-) KYLADDS> Again tho, I am not sure of the accuraccey but it is something to look into and verify KYLADDS> I have this log and it will go on LDG but the first will be edited HUT123> someone asked abt. Constatine LADD, I have 4 in my files DLLADD> I put that linage together several years back but looks as if you have updated material JAYNOODLE> Constantine Ladd, b. 1812 Terre Haute, Indiana. Constantine is a Perkins name. Went to Arkansas before 1820. DLLADD> I have 8 but no connection on some JAYNOODLE> Some? All! HUT123> Constatine s/o Amos LADD & MAry Perkins KYLADDS> Is that a man or woman? KYLADDS> Janet? JAYNOODLE> Constantine is male. JAYNOODLE> No, not the Constantine of Amos HUT123> I have as a male I do not have any other info. on him though, then who?? JAYNOODLE> Oops, hit send too soon. Of the line of Amos and Mary Perkins, we THINK. DLLADD> name looks like it came from ConstantinePERKINS Mary's bro KYLADDS> I have that too but I have him being born in 1814 married to Elizabeth Woods. Is this the same? JAYNOODLE> Yes, but 1812. KYLADDS> I have Joseph Menton Ladd as father JAYNOODLE> Charles thinks Con's father was Joseph Milton Ladd. KYLADDS> Mother Hester unknown? JAYNOODLE> Yes, unfortunately. KYLADDS> Looks like he and I have the same HUT123> I also have a Cons. s/o Joseph & Catherine Bacey Dameron KYLADDS> Do you think Joseph is the father/ HUT123> yes JAYNOODLE> I don't have my stuff organized but Con s/o Joseph & Catherine is not him. I think Joseph M. Ladd, of Sevier Co., ARk. is his father too. Just can't prove it. DLLADD> does any one have a family for Cons. s/o Amos and Mary? JAYNOODLE> That MIGHT be in the Perkins info I sent you Saturday Donald. HUT123> yes i do KYLADDS> Yes, b. 1724? KYLADDS> Nope, no family DLLADD> christened either Jan 1753 or 23 Oct 1758 Re: Douglas Register; Rev William DOUGLAS 1750-1797 HUT123> 1724 HUT123> oops, did not mean to do that JAYNOODLE> We think Joseph of Sevier Co., Ark. was a son of Amos and Mary Carmicael. Joseph b. abt. 1780. KYLADDS> died Aug 19, 1766 HUT123> ?? DLLADD> who did KYLADDS> Con son of Amos and Mary DLLADD> thought U were talking to Hut not Jay HUT123> Denise, you wanted my E-mail address, do I give it ot you on the List?? JAYNOODLE> I'm confused again! HUT123> Me too!! DLLADD> JayconfusedNoodle HUT123> It is late DLLADD> not here KYLADDS> I have son of Amos and Carrmicle Fraton DLLADD> he mar Mary BOXLEY? JAYNOODLE> It's still early in Calif, can't use that as my excuse. What exactly do you have MIsty? DLLADD> FRATEN ? KYLADDS> Descendants of Amos Ladd KYLADDS> 1 Amos Ladd Abt 1735 - 1800 KYLADDS> . +Commicle Fraton KYLADDS> ........ 2 William C. Ladd Abt 1770 - 1850 KYLADDS> ............ +Mary A. Chapman Abt 1786 - Abt 1886 KYLADDS> ........ 2 Amos Ladd Abt 1774 - Abt 1830 KYLADDS> ............ +Anna Stone KYLADDS> ........ 2 Joseph Milton Ladd Abt 1780 - Abt 1845 KYLADDS> ............ +Hester Unknown 1783 - 1855 KYLADDS> ........ 2 John Ladd Abt 1784 - 1864 KYLADDS> ............ +Mary Sunderland 1792 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 Constantine Ladd Abt 1797 - 1848 KYLADDS> ............ +Elizabeth M. Box Abt 1800 - KYLADDS> ........ 2 Betsy Ladd Aft 1798 - KYLADDS> ............ +Asa Keith KYLADDS> ........ 2 Patsy Ladd Aft 1799 - KYLADDS> ............ +John Sunderland DLLADD> Amos #4583, Const. # 4593 JAYNOODLE> Hang on my screen went backwards!! DLLADD> screen confused too HUT123> All gets silly when it is late!!! /JOIN 3 DENISEDREW> if you don't mind, send it to malden@easynet.on.ca and then I won't lose it KYLADDS> I have to start work at 8:am /EXIT KYLADDS> - signed off - /log misty@midwest.net (You aren't in a group with a meaningful name and you didn't specify a subject line for your e-mail) Please specify an e-mail address and a subject line: "/LOG member@domain.com subject line" /JOIN 3 ** KYLADDS just joined "Ladd Genealogy" (5 members now) ** (Type Control-Z to exit back to menu) DENISEDREW> its almost midnight so must go thanks all /log misty@midwest.net (Already logging) (Logging 24493 bytes in 434 lines at 22-JUN-1998 23:51) (When done use /NOLOG to send this log via e-mail to with subject line "Ladd Genealogy") HUT123> Ok Denise I will do that, I have to go for now, can't wait till the next chat, Thanks to all :-) KYLADDS> Goodnite Denise! DENISEDREW> - signed off - JAYNOODLE> Sorry, my screen went bonkers. Bye. DLLADD> on that last I have that Patsy LADD m John SUNDERLAND as d/o Amos & Lucinda LADD [marcousins] KYLADDS> Sandra, my email is misty@,midwest.net HUT123> Good night all:-) JAYNOODLE> I lost the last 5 minutes Donald. KYLADDS> no comma HUT123> Misty I have yours KYLADDS> Good nite HUT123> Night all JAYNOODLE> Bye until next time. HUT123> - signed off - JAYNOODLE> Misty, where did you get all that you downloaded about Joseph, etc. JAYNOODLE> It was just getting interesting when I lost everything. Did you get it from Charles? KYLADDS> I will have to check for sources but i doubt there are any. It was sent to me but I will try to to find the sender JAYNOODLE> Please! KYLADDS> No, I got it from someone else KYLADDS> The thing I don't like about FTM is that it doesn't give sender info as paf does JAYNOODLE> I can look at it again when you get it on the LDG site, right? KYLADDS> Yes, I can send it to you by email too. JAYNOODLE> You have to put the sources in FTM. Great on the email, please, please. I set up a basic FTM for Ladd people. DLLADD> 2 me 2 KYLADDS> That is about what I do too. I have all of my stuff in paf JAYNOODLE> When I set up the fact fields, I didn't note what I did. Is there a way to have FTM print me a list of the Fact Fields? KYLADDS> That is a plus for ftm, you can have so many different files if you can keep track of them JAYNOODLE> PAF v. 3.0 will let you have more than one file. But, you can't be online and use PAF at the same time. KYLADDS> Do you mean where you check the fast fields? KYLADDS> Mine is older then that. I never upgraded JAYNOODLE> Bear with us Donald. I thought they were Fact Fields. Use click on More at the end of a fact and it takes you there. PAF v. 3.0 is $15! KYLADDS> I have to go. I have to work at 8am and the shop will take an hour to clean! DLLADD> I have to sweep after ever one is gone 8^D JAYNOODLE> OKay, MIsty. JAYNOODLE> Those in the west, leave last. DLLADD> nite ladies KYLADDS> Where were the refreshments? I could have used a cold one! DLLADD> im further wes than Jay KYLADDS> Are you too on for next week? DLLADD> ??? JAYNOODLE> NEXT WEEK!!!??? KYLADDS> To host the chat? JAYNOODLE> Donald, want to co-host a chat? KYLADDS> Pick a day and time JAYNOODLE> With me. I'm be beauty, you be brains this time. DLLADD> not sure Kathy is taking vacation at that time JAYNOODLE> We'll talk and let you know Misty! KYLADDS> Then when her vaction is over! JAYNOODLE> It will be an early start for us. We're on the same time Donald! KYLADDS> Okay! I appreciate it. I just can't be here all the time and there is Jefferson Co., Il too JAYNOODLE> OK. We'll see. DLLADD> will set up date ok KYLADDS> I will talk to y'all later. Janet if I forget the file just remind me! /exit KYLADDS> - signed off - (Logging turned off)