Edited Ladd Chat log from 8 June 1999

.Donald> Hello Sharon good to see you
LUDDSHAR> Hello. It's really hot here today.
.Donald> We are the firstest here!
LUDDSHAR> I see that.
.Donald> It is still cold, below normal in lower 60s
LUDDSHAR> It had to be in the 90's today.
.Donald> we should be able to split the difference then we'd all be
comfy!
.Donald> What have you got that is new?
LUDDSHAR> I Put out a query for the Bunker & Bastien (my husband's
family and got a response. She says that she has traced them clear
back to France.
LUDDSHAR> We are in the process of sharing.
.Donald> That's good! LUDDSHAR> I figured I wouldn't get any
responses. It's not a large family like ours.
LUDDSHAR> She e-mailed me a picture of the whole Bastien family and
some obits.
.Donald> there is always, well most always, those little branches that
one can find
LUDDSHAR> They were in Quebec at first then settled in Wisconsin.
.Donald> Was the BASTIEN line of the French Huegonauts?
LUDDSHAR> I just thought of something. Is there any real proof that
Alan Ladd, the actor, is of our family?
LUDDSHAR> I'm not sure yet.
.Donald> Alan's records were supposed to have been destroyed in a fire
in Little Rock
.Donald> He may or may not be of the Virginia line.
LUDDSHAR> I remember when I was a child, my dad had an almanac. I was
looking in the Actors section and found him, but it stated that he was
Polish and that his birth name was Ladinowsky, or something like it.
LUDDSHAR> Seems like all the Ladds really try hard to connect with
him.
.Donald> I have never seen that. I have his autobiography by Beverly
LINET
.Donald> Alan's middle name was Walbridge....I find a New England LADD
married a WALBRIDGE....but many generations before Alan was born
.Donald> Corrections on that Little Rock...it was Hot Springs
.Donald> His mother was Ina RALEIGH, came from England.
.Donald> born, 25 Nov 1888, came to America in 1907 at age of nineteen
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.Donald> seems that this would be on public record someplace
.Janet> Hi Sharon and Donald. Sorry to be late. Last minute stuff at
work.
.Donald> Hi J....late as usual!
.Donald> I was saying as you came on that Alan's mom was born 25 Nov
1888 in West Chester Eng. and came to US in 1907
.Donald> seems that she could be traced that far anyway
.Janet> Immigration records maybe. Is someone interested in Alan's
line?
LUDDSHAR> Maybe the info. in the almanac was wrong.
.Donald> All LADDs are interested in Alan's line just to see where he
fit in
.Donald> Sharon, was that a Farmers Almanac?
.Donald> Some years ago I take it?
LUDDSHAR> I don't remember. That had to be about 48 years ago.
LUDDSHAR> It was about 2 inches thick.
.Donald> let's see...48 from 99 = 1951 or so.... )
.Donald> Janet, Ol' Larry has been putting some good stuff on the list
hasn't he?
.Janet> Yes, great information!
LUDDSHAR> Got an e-mail from Michael Ladd in Va.
.Donald> He sent me an attachment of a page out of Amos LADD's bible
with the children of Elison's children listed
LUDDSHAR> He also said that his mother was bringing some family
pictures to him so he could reprint them.
.Donald> Elison was the spelling on this page
LUDDSHAR> I have that too. I thought I sent you a copy of it too.
LUDDSHAR> It took me over 2 years to locate that Bible. Finally found
Idean in Onsted, Mi.
.Donald> In that LARGE packet of pages? I haven't gone through a small
percentage of that yet
LUDDSHAR> He knew who had it.
LUDDSHAR> It would be in that packet.
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.Bones> hello everyone
LUDDSHAR> Hello
.Donald> it is Onsted MI Lynn had it listed as Olmsted no wonder I
couldn't locate it. She had gotten information from the bible of James
LADD there.
.Donald> Hi Bonnie!
.Janet> Hi Bonnie.
.Bones> Hi Donald
.Bones> Hi Janet
LUDDSHAR> Hi Bonnie
.Bones> Hi there..
.Bones> sorry... not sure of your name :-)
.Donald> Bonnie, this is Sharon LADD-BERTSCH of Avon SD a distant
cousin in my line
LUDDSHAR> What's in the James Ladd Bible.
.Bones> glad to meet you Sharon!
LUDDSHAR> Same here
.Donald> Sharon, I don't know what Lynn gleaned out of that bible, she
just listed it as a source
LUDDSHAR> OK
.Donald> Now what I'm seeing is that Joel Jackson was not a son of
.Donald> Ellison & Millie, but rather the name should read Jacob?
.Donald> Joel was a son of Edw Sr that died in CW and Joel Jackson
came later, is that right?
.Donald> and Edw Sr had a son also named Jacob? born ca 1840?
.Donald> These are sons of Edw Sr & Susannah TILLBERRY
LUDDSHAR> I show Joel Ladd b. 1845 d. 8 10 1876 son of Edward and
Susannah Tillberry.
LUDDSHAR> I show a Joel Jackson as the son of Ellison 7 Amelia.
.Donald> I think that the James LADD Lynn referred to was James
Thornton LADD who married Anna MILLER
LUDDSHAR> And he was b. 11 9 1812 d. 8 10 1876
.Donald> I have that way too but I think Mike was the one that pointed
out that Joel Jackson was not the son of Ellison as when Joel died in
1876 he was only about 13 years of age
LUDDSHAR> As we talked about it before, I could have these two mixed
up.
.Donald> These boys are going to take some major investigating to sort
them out correctly
LUDDSHAR> There was a Joel listed in the family Bible records.
LUDDSHAR> At least I thought it was there.
.Donald> I thought I saw that too, I will have to delve deeper into
that information you, Barbara, and Mike and John Myers has sent to see
what I find
.Donald> If Sharon and I and the rest of the Ellison, descendants can
establish which one of William LADD II's son was the parent of Ellison
then we can take ours back to John I
LUDDSHAR> Donald, If I remember, this Joel who died at about age 13,
had something like a brain tumor.
LUDDSHAR> And is buried in the Ladd cemetery
.Donald> I have Joel Jackson LADD listed on the Putnam Co Death index,
but only the date of death was given
.Donald> I was filling in additional information as I found it
.Donald> such as parents, spouse, if any, and date of birth
LUDDSHAR> Joel Jackson Ladd was the one who had military records,
right?
.Donald> No it was just plain Joel, son of Edw Sr and Susannah
TILLBERRY that died in Merietta Ga of desease during the CW
.Donald> I got information from the CILVILWARLADY on this Joel
.Donald> ok ok its CIVIL not CILVIL
.Donald> My Greatgrandfather George HOLLABAUGH joined up at the time
Joel did, he died and is buried in Tennessee
.Donald> Joel would be my Great-greatgrand Uncle
LUDDSHAR> I have some names of Edward Sr.'s children that I can't put
with a mother.
.Donald> They both joined the 57th Ohio Volunteers, but were in
different companies and did not serve together
LUDDSHAR> They are Sid, Bertha, Dennis, Pete, Jack & Ezer.
LUDDSHAR> Could be nick names or middle names or just more children.
.Donald> There is a Dennis LADD in Bryan Ohio, that is kin to us
.Donald> don't remember his line exactly
LUDDSHAR> These children belong to Edward Sr. (Ned) & Susahhan
Tillberry or one of his many wives.
.Donald> I have one unnamed female born ca 1836 to Edw &
Susannah....any idea on her?
.Donald> Then Riley LADD, s/o Edw Sr and Nancy Jane HARRIS was listed
as Ryals on the 1880 soundex census
LUDDSHAR> Donald, I have the same thing.
.Donald> I also have George Washington LADD-FINNEY under Edw Sr & NJ
HARRIS, but sho a George W. LADD under Edw Sr and Mary GOODWIN. Is
this so?
LUDDSHAR> Donald, I show Riley s/o Jane Harris & Edward M. to
Josephine Pettet on Feb 18, 1875 in Putnam co. That's all I have.
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.Donald> George W. LADD married Rosena/Rozena BERRY [as per 1880
census
.Donald> Hi NANLADD!
.Janet> Hi Nan
.Donald> What LADD line are you persuing
.Donald> Sharon, that should read BEERY
.Bones> Hi Nan
NANLADD> I am from the Tennessee Ladd's
.Donald> Good that expands our group some
LUDDSHAR> Donald, I have a George W. Ladd s/o James Ladd & Artnicia
Miller m. Nora Howard Children: Norried, Raymond & Eunice and A George
Finney Washington s/o Edward nd Nancy Jane Harris.
.Donald> I and Sharon are from the Ohio LADDs, one of them any way,
Bonnie is of the New England line and Janet, well Janet is just along
for the fun of it!
.Bones> good show Donald :-)
LUDDSHAR> NanLadd, Have you found a place in your Ladds for Ernest
Jennings Ford (Tenn. Ernie Ford)?
NANLADD> Donald, what part of New England?
.Donald> take it, Bones!
.Bones> I am the New England Ladd Nan.. I am a direct descendent of
Daniel Ladd
NANLADD> No Tenn. Ernie Ford!
.Bones> most of my family came from the New Hampshire/Mass. area
migrating to Illinois and then into Minnesota
.Donald> Try Ernest FORD, I forget what his middle name was
LUDDSHAR> I stated at a concert that I attended, he was talking about
either his grandma or his great grandma Hannah Ladd.
LUDDSHAR> Ernest Jennings Ford
.Janet> Hmmm....didn't that come up at another chat?
.Donald> Nan, how does your line go?
NANLADD> Anyone have decendent dating back to Kent, England?
.Donald> We all are looking for that connection too!
.Bones> I have seen Kent, Devonshire & Ipswich.. not sure where to
begin looking
NANLADD> I have an Amos Ladd in Virginia and S.C.
NANLADD> Around 1710
.Donald> Start with you and work back, for us, OK?
NANLADD> Father - Lawrence Ladd, Monteagle, TN, to George Ladd 1904
same town
.Donald> John of Virginia, came to America prior to 07 Oct 1653, is
sometimes confused with John, who came to america 1678, to New Jersey.
NANLADD> John Ladd 1924 and his father was William Bill Ladd
NANLADD> I have several Gen. of Amos Ladds who is the son of John Ladd
from Charlos City, VA.
.Janet> Nan, do you have Joseph Ladd b. abt 1780 in Virginia?
NANLADD> John was born in England in 1650 came to the states in 1674
and died in VA. in 1680
NANLADD> I have no Joseph Ladd!!
LUDDSHAR> That would make John only 6 yrs old at death.
NANLADD> Janet, It could be in a line that I do not have
.Janet> I think I have some info on a James Ladd from Monteagle.
.Bones> Donald I have one for you. I received an email yesterday from
a Sam Morris asking about an ancestor named Anne Ladd
LUDDSHAR> My imigrantwas John Ladd b. bef 1653d. 1680 m. Mary ? abt
1650
.Donald> John died ca jun 1679, will read Aug 1680 or thereabouts!
.Donald> big problem here Nan, John LADD of Virginia came to America
prior to 07 Oct 1653...didn't say he was a child...but could have been
NANLADD> Don what was the name of John' father?
.Donald> Sharon, John is supposed to have married Bathsheba LOVETT ca
1672, Amos born shortly thereafter, Bathsheba may have died by 1674/5
married to Mary ca 1678 William born ca Jun 1679
.Donald> No record of John of Virginia's father.
NANLADD> I have a Nicholas Ladd from Hythe England Born- 1636 to 1699
.Donald> John of NJ parent is supposed to be Nicolas LADD of
Swingfield, buried in Quaker burial grounds, Hyth England
.Donald> died 1699 , I have no birthdate
NANLADD> When did he Die?
NANLADD> I also have his father as the same name born- 1590 died-1669
in St. George England
SOME OF THE CHAT WAS LOST HERE WHEN DONALD LOST HIS CONNECTION
NANLADD> Janet, How do you knoW James Ladd from Monteagle, TN?
.Janet> Nan, information I found in a book I think--Arkansas.
.Donald > Nan, did you get any of what I sent?
NANLADD> no
LUDDSHAR> Then William Ladd b. Aug 1679 d. nov 27 1751 m. Hulda
Binfortd b. abt 1769 d. bet 1705-1773
.Donald> ok here tis....John of NJ; his parent is purported to be
Nicolas LADD, who died in 1699, and is buried at the Quaker burial
grounds at Hythe, England
.Donald > His father was also a Nicolas and he died in 1669
LUDDSHAR> Then William ladd & Ursula Ellyson
LUDDSHAR> Then Jacob Ladd & Silvia Tanner
LUDDSHAR> Then elison Ladd & Amelia Riley
NANLADD> This should be the same line?
.Donald > His father was also a Nicolas [of Wooten] and the son of
John LADD III
LUDDSHAR> I also have some nicholas (John's Father) who m. Ellen
Pemble
LUDDSHAR> and that Nicholas father also ws nicholas m. Joan Parker
.Janet> Nan, James Ladd b. c. 1845 at Ladd Cove near Monteagle, Tenn.
Died Jan 1877. Married in Yell Co., Ark. to Artnecia Miller. Children:
Sarah b. Martin Tp.?, Pope?, Arkansas. Amanda, Anna Francis,
.Janet> Emeline, George Washington, James Franklin. George married
Nora Ann Howard. From "History of Pope County, Arkansas."
.Janet> Father was Terrill Ladd and I have more...
.Janet> I think I put it all on the Ladd Digging Grounds.
NANLADD> I will look into this!!
.Janet> Nan, I think my email address is on the LDG, is that right
Donald?
NANLADD> Donald, Do you know if the original Ladd name was Ladde?
LUDDSHAR> Fathers & sons in the same family often spelled it diferent.
LUDDSHAR> We have lots of different spellings
.Donald > John LADD (I) of Otting, Elham, County Kent; his father
spelled it LADDE...no first name on record This John born ca 1440,
married Cicewly, died ca 1476
NANLADD> That is as far back as I have traced my Family!
NANLADD> I cant get beyond the Ladde.
LUDDSHAR> That's as far back as I have traced my family, too.
.Donald > Nan, would you send me your line, with dates, etc. all the
way back to LADDE from you? OK?
NANLADD> Yes I can. Do you use any type of Family Tree Software?
.Donald > There was a Walter LAD, ca 1326
NANLADD> Ludd, what state are you from?
.Donald > William LADD on jury duty, 1294
LUDDSHAR> I am Sharon, my husband is Ludd. I am from South Dakota. My
parents come from Putnam Co., Ohio. They too are of the Virginia
Ladds.
NANLADD> Our family must have split and my side moved to Tennessee.
LUDDSHAR> I'm not sure about that. Some went to KY, SC, Ark.
.Donald > Nan, my new computer died and we have replaced it with a
newer model, so I haven't got much added to this computer yet. I just
been downlading to floppies , then when up and running I will place
the floppy information in the appropiate files
.Bones> well everyone.. I must leave.. sorry for being so quiet.. but
has been interesting! Will be back for the next chat.
LUDDSHAR> Bye
.Janet> I feel the same way tonight Bonnie--glad to have you here
listening with me! :-)
.Donald > OK Bonnie, remember it's you turn to bring the goodies!
NANLADD> SHAR, I have an Amos Ladd from Dickens, SC.
.Bones> bye Sharon... sounds like a plan Donald.. See you all later!
:-)
.Bones> - signed off -
LUDDSHAR> Let me check
.Donald > Nan, there was a William LADDE, of Shene, now Richmond,
England that was compensated for damage to his home [burnt down] while
the Queen was visiting. Musta been some party!
LUDDSHAR> I'v got lots of Amos Ladds but with out birth places. Do you
know who he married?
.Donald > date was 1358
.Donald > 12 September
.Donald > This LADDE could be a grandfather to John LADD[of 1440]
NANLADD> I have one that m. and Anna Stone and his father med. a C.
Fraren.
.Janet> Be careful with that Commicilia Fraten--no one can verify her.
LUDDSHAR> Yes it sound familiar. What did you want to know?
NANLADD> I just appears that our lines converge.
LUDDSHAR> It looks like it, Donald's would too.
NANLADD> Good, Do you have lots of money that I can inherit?
LUDDSHAR> Ha!
.Donald > Sharon, do you have a Sanford Hubert LADD that married
Hattie Elizabeth ISSAC in Bourbon Co. KY? no dates!
LUDDSHAR> Donald, no.
.Donald > He is listed in marriage book 5, page 468
NANLADD> This has been a lot of fun. I hope to do this again in 2
weeks.
.Donald > He could be a sibling of Ellison, James, Millie & Robert G,
who all married in Bourbon Co. KY
NANLADD> Bye all!!!!
.Donald > bye Nan
.Janet> Bye Nan, see you next time.
NANLADD> - signed off -
LUDDSHAR> Does anyone have the address of the new LDS/
.Janet> I have that...somewhere...
LUDDSHAR> Bye
LUDDSHAR> Donald, could be but he's not on my tree yet.
.Janet> http://www.familysearch.org/
LUDDSHAR> Thanks Janet
.Donald > I got his name from John MYERS, from Lima OH....I think!
LUDDSHAR> Don't know him.
.Donald > John is related thru Orah LADD that married a MYERS
LUDDSHAR> OK
.Donald > Ora/Orah Millisa LADD, b. 08 Mar 1895 to Andrew Jackson &
Elizabeth HARTER, died 27 Mar 1983, married WWilliam Lawerance MYERS
07 Feb 1917
.Donald > these were his grand parents [John, that is]
LUDDSHAR> I remember that I have most of that
.Donald > Sharon, Janet, shall we call it a night.
LUDDSHAR> OK, Bye
.Donald > bye Sharon! Night Gracie!
LUDDSHAR> - signed off -
.Janet> Good night George!


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