QUICK GUIDE TO THIS PAGE:
-
INTRODUCTION
-explanation of the Menary DNA project, and a link
to the Menary DNA Results
Website
- MENARY FAMILY GROUPS:
- GROUP 1
-Includes DNA kits #13591; #14455; #18410; #15133; #18166; #21468;
#20240; #13681
- GROUP 2
- Includes
DNA kits #13615; #16548
- GROUP 3
-Includes DNA
kit #18703
- GROUP 4
-Includes DNA
kit #21648
- EXTRAS:
INTRODUCTION
For purposes of
comparison within our the Menary surname, each DNA sample has
been assigned a kit number. That sample
is then assigned a "BRANCH" name which is based on that samples'
oldest known Menary ancestor’s first name and the maiden name of
his wife, if known.
NOTE:
It is recommended that one be somewhat familiar with the
terminology that is used in the discussion below. Some
definitions in layman's terms can be found at
DNA Terminology.
The
Project Results Table
is located on the
Family Tree DNA lab analysis webpage.
CLICK HERE to visit that
webpage.
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Group 1
- (See Group 1 Ancestors and
photos HERE!)
Haplotypes are the common sequence of loci
(location of the area on the DNA measured) and its marker count
in each loci (sequence of proteins) that results in a sequence
particular to a group of individuals, in this case Menary males.
For instance, the common haplotype for the Menary Project for
Group 1 is:
13 25 14 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 14 29
The haplogroup for Group 1 is
R1b. A
haplogroup is the commonality among a very large group of many
haplotypes that represent a branch of the Human Biological tree
and its migratory roots, regardless of, and dated to,
pre-surname history. There are over 150 haplogroups in the
world.
FTDNA (the lab we used for our
sample analysis) states that "haplogroup (s) are tied to deep
ancestry (think 10,000 or 10's of 1000's of years). The value
therefore is that it tells researches about migratory patterns,
and gives information about the age of the ‘group’ of people."
FTDNA goes on to define Haplogroup R1b as
"the most common haplogroup in European populations. It is
believed to have expanded throughout Europe as humans
re-colonized after the last glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years
ago. This lineage is the haplogroup also known as the Atlantic
modal haplotype (a reference sample used by labs for basic
comparisons) that is:
13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29
See
FTDNA
for further explanation.
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But what else do the Group 1 sample's ancestors
have in common? They all trace their roots to the Counties of
Armagh and Tyrone in Northern Ireland in the late 1700's, with
the exception of sample #13681 (see discussion of this sample
below). Be sure and look at some of the maps in our map section
to understand how close and small the area these folks are found
in truly is.
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The DNA results of sample #13681
are off by two mutations from the other members of Group 1. That
means the sample subject may or may not be related to the other
members of Group 1. One of the mutations is a fast moving marker
and the Family Tree DNA lab interprets this connection
(Referring to sample numbers 13591, 14455, 15133) thusly:
"Their signature is unusual,
especially the 11,12 at 385A,B and the 14 at DYS 392. Sample
#13681 is possibly related, but since he is off by two (DYS
390 and DYS 439) he is not nearly as closely related to the
others as they are to themselves. I personally am a little
surprised that 13681 is off in two places, DYS 439 is a fast
movers, but DYS 390 isn't. That means that if you were to
test the most distant cousin of Mr. 13681 he should fall
somewhere in between the pair 13591 and 14455. Baring that
we have to chalk up the 10/12 and surname being similar to a
coincidence."
--Bennett Greenspan,
FTDNA President
After increasing the number of
measured markers for kits #13591 and #14455 from 12 to 37 they
were a match on all by one marker. That occurred at CDY which is
the fastest mover in the entire FTDNA system. Bennett Greenspan
interprets this as meaning " both are related in 8 generations
or less--80% confidence of that (50% of the time within 5
generations). We don't have many folks who match 36/37.
(Note: Being that the name and
the history is similar between these samples, I am temporarily (
until proven otherwise) calling #13681 a Group 1 match.
Obviously the MRCA would be much further back in time to allow
for the mutations. sj )
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Group 2
- (See Group 2 Ancestors and photos
HERE!)
These DNA samples are clustering to form
another biological base for the Menary surname. Samples
#13615 and #16548 can both claim a Canadian heritage and
both hold a family belief that all had Irish ancestry. While
sample #13615 can trace his ancestors to County Tyrone,
North Ireland with a Canadian migration via Scotland, sample
# 16548 knows that his ancestor migrated to the United
States through CAN.
However, there is a one-step mutation between the two
samples at loci DYS 389-2 so without more markers being
tested it would be difficult to assume how far back in the
generations the Most Recent Common Ancestor of these samples
#13615 and #16548 might be.
As far as deep ancestry, the Haplotype in this Group 2 is
rare and only sample #16548 had a two step mutation from a
confirmed Haplogroup. Sample #13615's nearest match to a
Haplogroup is three steps from a C and a J2. Until there is
further data available it is most likely that the samples in
our group are from Haplogroup C.
Haplogroup C is found throughout mainland Asia, the south
Pacific, and at low frequency in Native American
populations. Haplogroup C originated in southern Asia and
spread in all directions. This lineage colonized New Guinea,
Australia, and north Asia, and currently is found with its
highest diversity in populations of India.
Bennett Greenspan from the Family Tree DNA lab
suggests that between sample #13651 and #16548 there is at DYS
loci # 389-2 a difference of one mutation. So we have grouped
these samples to form Group 2.
The common haplotype for the Menary Project for
Group 2 is Haplogroup C and it looks like this:
13 26 16 10 13 16 11 13 11 12 11 29
Haplogroup C is defined by FTDNA as
"found throughout mainland
Asia, the south Pacific, and at low frequency in Native
American populations, Haplogroup C originated in southern
Asia and spread in all directions. This lineage colonized
New Guinea, Australia, and north Asia, and currently is
found with its highest diversity in populations of India."
Haplotype C was more difficult
for the lab to discern based on our two sample kits. It was
finally determined by a Y-STR test conducted on samples with
closest matches to our samples. Several samples outside of
our group that had a two-step (the closest we could come)
mutation match to our #16548 confirmed their Haplogroup as C.
As you can see Group 2 is a very
different biological profile than Group 1.Between Group 1 and
Group 2 there is a 17-18 point discrepancy indicating no
biological link. Since the haplogroup for Group 1 was R1b
and Group 2 is C, we can conclude that our ancient forefathers
(before there were surnames) were from different "tribes" that
had very different migration patterns. We are led to the
conclusion that the Menary surname had more than one beginning.
As more samples are received other Menary Haplotypes may also
emerge.
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Group 3
- (See Group 3 Ancestors and photos
HERE!)
E3b This haplogroup is
believed to have evolved in the Middle East. It expanded into
the Mediterranean during the Pleistocene Neolithic expansion. It
is currently distributed around the Mediterranean, southern
Europe, and in north and east Africa.
Group 4
- (See Group 4 Ancestors and photos
HERE!)
Haplotype Q is "is the lineage that links Asia and the
Americas. This lineage is found in North and Central Asian
populations as well as native Americans. This lineage is
believed to have originated in Central Asia and migrated through
the Altai / Baikal region of northern Eurasia into the
Americas." (Genealogy by Genetics, Ltd).
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Join Us -
We invite all MENARY surnamed males of any
spelling to participate in our DNA project: A simple swap inside
your cheek is all it takes to complete a test kit. Learn about your DNA
family and find matches, leave a legacy for your descendants,
and help us achieve our goals which include:
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To create DNA biological links between
MENARYS around the world.
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To connect to our original ancestors in
Ireland and France.
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To validate existing genealogy research.
For more information on our lab and the
process of DNA for genealogy go to:
http://www.ftdna.com
To read more about the Menary Surname
Project:
http://www.ftdna.com/surname_det.asp?group=Menary
To order a Menary DNA test kit and get our
group rate use the following link:
http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=A36117
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Donations Appreciated -
Many of you have been asking about how you can
help with the DNA project, including offsetting the costs of our
research in Ireland and our web site at www.MyFamily.com. We
also have several Menary males who are interested in
contributing a DNA sample but can't afford it. We are now
collecting donations to be put towards these goals.
When you think about it, how many times have you
sent $10-15 to a county office asking for a birth or marriage
certificate? How much have you spent in phone calls, postage,
hiring genealogists, or your time on the web looking for your
Menary kin? Now you have a chance to get the definitive answers
through DNA testing.
Your donations are now being collected through
www.Paypal.com. Please use
the Make a Donation link below:
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All donations are accounted for and 100% of the
donation goes towards Menary research. If you would rather send
your donation via postal service please contact us for details:
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