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last update: 14 November 2007 ... rak

News!  Preliminary report on 2001 trip to Alexandertal!  Go to: Alexandertal 2001.

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There were many German colonies/villages in Russia that began Alexander-something.  They were often confused because they are confusing.  To check this out, click on Alternative Alexander-somethings.

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Alexandertal -- Beginnings     

The following is a translation of an 1890 Russian report, this copy taken from the AHSGR Journal VI:2 (Summer 1983) pp. 12-13 [parens enclose the translator's notes; square brackets are my own additions ... rak]:

THE SETTLEMENT ALEXANDERTAL

    This is situated on a large hill, on the right side of the Astrakhan postal highway, one versta (0.66 mile) from the river Ilavlia.  The first settlers came from the village Sosnova, Sosnovsk county, in 1853, and at first settled along the ravine toward the center of the communal land allotted to them.  The settlers who arrived after them, however, did not like this spot and they, together with the first settlers, moved to a lower place along the postal highway and there dug out their huts.  The next spring, however, in 1854, the high water flooded their dugout huts and forced them to leave that place also to re-settle on higher ground, where the settlement has remained to the present.

    Since the settlers, with few exceptions, came from Sosnovka, the settlement is popularly called Novaia Sosnovka (New Sosnovka) by the Russians, and Neu-Schilling by the Germans, because their original home Sosnova was called Schilling by them.  Later the new settlement received the official name Alexandertal (Alexander's Valley), in memory of the blessed Emperor Alexander II (he was assassinated in 1881), God rest his soul!

    At the tenth census (taken in 1857-58) there were counted in this settlement 189 males and 171 females.  At present there are 378 males and 350 females, most of whom are of the Lutheran faith.

    The settlement does not have a store or flour mill, but it does have an oil-mill.

    The allotted community land includes: farmyards, pasture and unproductive land, 1753 desiatinas; arable land, 2525 des.; meadows, 27 des.; forest 78 des.; total: productive land, 2606 des. and unproductive land 1777 des.

    The school was established in 1854 in a community house and is supported by the settlers in the community.  There are 47 boys and 47 girls in this school.

    In the summer a few men from the various settlements of Ilavlin county, after finishing their own farm work, go to the Don region and the Novouzensk and Tsarevsk districts to supplement their income by agricultural work, such as cutting hay and grain, threshing grain, constructing dams, etc.

    Although this report says the village was established in 1853, its 1858 census lists 3 people who died in 1851 and 1 who died in 1852 so there may have been at least unofficial settlement at least as early as 1851.  The report also says there were 360 residents as of the tenth, 1857-58, census.  However, the translation I have of the 1858 census contains only 198 residents plus 11 who had died.  I don't know whether the report translated above was incorrect, or whether the translation I have of the 1858 census is incomplete.  

    The Astrakrakan postal highway ran a few miles west of and parallel to the Volga River.  On various maps the names of the neighboring German villages on this highway north to south are: Neu-Meule, Alexandertal, Neufeld, and Rosenberg.

The 1858 Census

    I have a copy of a translation of the 1858 Alexandertal Census, the only census of Alexandertal I have been able to discover so far.  The following table summarizes the census report:

1858 ALEXANDERTAL CENSUS TABLE

             

FAMILY

NUMBER

WIDOW/

MARRIED

UNMARRIED

CHILDREN

RECENTLY

TOTAL

NAME

H/HOLDS

WIDOWERS

COUPLES

>19 YR OLDS

UNDER 20

DEAD

LIVE

Beisel

1

0

1

0

5

0

7

Daniel

2

0

2

2

10

1

16

Haas

2

1

2

1

3

2

9

Helzer

1

0

1

0

0

0

2

Hoffmann

1

1

0

1

0

0

2

Koch

1

0

1

1

3

1

6

Kraus

2

0

4

1

12

0

21

Krel

2

1

4

6

9

2

24

Lekei/Leoppke

1

0

1

0

2

1

4

Maul

2

0

3

1

0

1

7

Reil

1

0

1

0

5

0

7

Satler

3

1

6

3

12

2

28

Schmidt

2

0

2

1

7

0

12

Schreiber

1

1

2

0

4

0

9

Schultz

1

0

1

0

4

0

6

Sinner

1

0

1

0

4

1

6

Strackbein

1

0

3

0

5

0

11

Steher

1

0

1

0

4

0

6

Vorster/Worster

3

1

2

0

6

0

11

Weinberg

1

0

2

0

0

0

4

Totals

30

6

40

17

95

11

198

Census Total Living and Dead

           

209

To order copies of the translated 1858 census please go to www.rakgen.com.

    Following the 1858 census, settlers continued coming to Alexandertal, so much so that by the time of the Report quoted above, the population had expanded to 728.  Without later census data we have almost no information on who these new settlers were.  However, I do have a few names from descendents in the US.  What we now know about family names and migration patterns into Alexandertal is summarized in the following table:

 

MIGRATION PATTERNS OF ALEXANDERTAL FAMILIES

   

FAMILY NAME

GERMAN ORIGINS

KNOWN MIGRATION INSIDE RUSSIA

Beisel

 

Beideck?>Schilling>Alexandertal

Daniel

 

Schilling>Alexandertal

Haas

 

Schilling>Alexandertal

Helzer

 

Grimm>Alexandertal

Hoffmann

 

Grimm>Alexandertal

Koch

 

Norka>Alexandertal

Kraus

Thuengen Duchy

Stahl-am-Karaman>Doenhof>Schilling>Alexandertal

Krel

 

Schilling>Alexandertal

Lekei/Loeppke/Loetsereich

 

Schilling>Alexandertal

Luft

 

Schilling>Alexandertal

Maul

 

Kutter?>Schilling>Alexandertal

Reil/Reis?

 

Doenhof?/Schilling>Alexandertal

Satler/Sattler

 

Messer?>Schilling>Alexandertal

Schmidt

 

Doenhof?>Schilling>Alexandertal

Schreiber

 

Schilling>Alexandertal

Schultz/Schulz

 

Schilling>Alexandertal

Sinner

 

Schilling>Alexandertal

Steher/Stehr/Ster/Stahr

 

Unknown>Schilling>Alexandertal

Strackbein

 

Schilling>Alexandertal

Weinberg

 

Unknown>Schilling>Alexandertal

Worster/Vorster

 

Schilling>Alexandertal

 

    Alexandertal families began immigrating to the US as early as 1876.  The little I know about that migration is summarized in the following table:

 

ALEXANDERTAL IMMIGRATION DATA

             

FAMILY

DEPARTURE

 

ARRIVAL

   

NUMBER

 

NAME

PORT

DATE

PORT

DATE

SHIP

IN PARTY

Destination

Beisel Glasgow 8 June 1912 NYC 16 June 1912 Cameronia 6 friend, Kalamazoo, MI
Daniel Bremen 17 June 1911 NYC 28 June 1911 Bremen 1 bro, Fredonia, ND
Feld Liverpool 4 June 1904 NYC 12 June 1909 Baltic 4 husb, Herington, KS

Graff

Libau

2 Nov. 1906

NYC

19 Nov. 1906

Grodno

1

cousin, Sugar City, CO
Grell Amsterdam 9 Oct 1897 NYC 23 Oct 1897 Werkendam 6 Jamesburgh, KS
Kaufman Liverpool 15 Feb 1908 NYC 23 Feb 1908 Campania 1 br-in-law, Herington, KS
Keller Bremen 15 Oct 1904 NYC 26 Oct 1904 Neckar 3 cousin, Sugar City CO

Keller

Libau

2 Nov. 1906

NYC

19 Nov. 1906

Grodno

5

son & sib, Sugar City, CO

Keller

Libau

2 Nov. 1906

NYC

19 Nov. 1906

Grodno

8

bro, Sugar City, CO
Keller     NYC 21 Jan. 1913 Czar    
Kraus Bremen   NYC 7 Dec. 1875 Leipzig 1 went to Marion Co, KS

Kraus

Liverpool

 

NYC

31 Jul. 1876

City of Montreal

5

went to Marion Co, KS
Kraus     Baltimore 4 June 1887 Koeln 9 went to Marion Co, KS
Kraus     ? 1892 ? 1 went to Marion Co, KS, then Oregon
Kraus Bremen 13 Nov 1897 NYC 26 Nov 1897 Karlsruhe 1 uncle, Wilson, KS, then went to Marion Co, KS then Silvis, IL
Kraus Bremen 11 May 1905 Galveston 1 Jun 1905 Frankfurt 5 bro-in-law Alex Schaefer, Sugar City, CO
(Kraus) Stahr Liverpool 2 Jan 1907 Baltimore 11 Jan 1907 Celtic to Herington, KS then Iowa then Silvis, IL
Kraus     Baltimore Mar 1907 Breslau 1 to Herington, KS then to Wilson, KS
Kraus Libau 30 Sept 1907 NYC 18 Oct 1907 Smolensk 1 to bro-in-law, Sugar City, CO
(Kraus) Weber Bremen 24 Oct 1907 Galveston 17 Nov 1907 Frankfort 2 went to Oregon

Kraus (Keller)

Liverpool

9 Apr 1908

NYC

18 Apr. 1908

Cedric

1 to husb, Sugar City, CO
Kraus     Baltimore 11 Dec 1908 Main 1 to bro Sam in Herington, KS
Krell Hamburg 18 Nov 1904 NYC 20 Nov 1904 Bluecher 2 cousin, Lincoln, NE
Krell Hamburg 18 Nov 1904 NYC 20 Nov 1904 Bluecher 3 friend, Lincoln, NE
Lechler Bremen 6 June 1907 NYC 18 June 1907 Friedrich der Grosse 7 bro-in-law, Herington, KS
Lenay Libau 19 Mar 1913 NYC 2 Apr 1913 Russian 1 relative, Lincoln, NE
Mayer Liverpool 15 Feb 1908 NYC 23 Feb 1908 Campania 2 bro, Sugar City, CO

Meier

   

Winnipeg

17 Jun. 1900

     
Meier Hamburg 2 Feb 1907 NYC 16 Feb 1907 Graf Waldersee 3 bro, Sugar City, CO
Meier     Philadelphia 23 Mar 1910 Haverford 3 friend, Fresno, CA

Meyer

Hamburg 25 Nov 1900  

9 Dec 1900

Graf Waldersee

2

husb, Marion, KS
Meier     Galveston 29 May 1912 Breslau 1  
Sattler Liverpool 14 Nov 1907 NYC 23 Nov 1907 Baltic 1 bro-in-law, Sugar City, CO
Scheifer/Scherfer Liverpool 15 Feb 1908 NYC 23 Feb 1908 Campania 1 friend, Herington, KS
Schmidt Libau 25 June 1912 NYC 8 July 1912 Kursk 1 uncle, Sugar City, CO
Shadel     Philadelphia 23 Mar 1910 Haverford 1 friend, Fresno, CA

Strackbein

Bremen

1 Jun. 1893

Baltimore

15 Jun. 1893

Amerika

2

 
Strakbein Liverpool 21 May 1908 NYC 31 May 1908 Celtic 4 bro & uncle, Sugar City, CO
Worster Bremen 15 Nov 1906 Galveston 13 Dec 1906 Frankfurst 3 Marion Co, KS
Worster Bremen 28 May 1910 NYC 8 June 1910 Lusitania 2 Marion Co, KS
Warsta[Worster?] Hamburg 2 Mar 1913 NYC 25 Mar 1906 Pretoria 1 friend, Herington, KS
               

 

    So far only a few Alexandertal descendants have checked in.  I hope that other descendants seeing the web site will make themselves, their ancestors and their stories known to me.  If so, the following list of descendants will expand!

 

FAMILY NAME

KNOWN DESCENDANT

AHSGR ID

DESCENDANT'S ADDRESS

Beisel

Connie Geringer Armstrong

 

[2008] 4532 W. Roberts Ave, Fresno, CA 93722; tele: 559-276-7950; e-mail: cgarmstrong@comcast.net

Daniel

John Sandrock

S683

[1996] 6215 Falcon Landing Court, Burke, VA 22015-2529

Graf/Graff

Barbara Rowan

R262

[2003] 1121 Westwood, Riverton, WY 82501; e-mail: alamodedesigns@wyoming.com.

Karg

Larry Hoppe

 

[2000] LarryHOP@worldnet.att.net

Keller

Barbara Rowan

R262

[2007] 1121 Westwood, Riverton, WY 82501; e-mail: alamodedesigns@brosnan.net

Keller

Connie Geringer Armstrong

 

[2008] 4532 W. Roberts Ave, Fresno, CA 93722; tele: 559-276-7950; e-mail: cgarmstrong@comcast.net

Keller

Daniel D. Gerlock

G049

[1983] 736 E. 16th Street, Casper, WY 82601

Keller

Robert L. Kraus

K165

[2003] 1508 Maple Lane, Riverton, WY 82501; kraushouse@wyoming.com

Keller Allan Keller   [2001] allank1@jps.net; 1299 Gold Pan Drive, Roseville, CA 95661-7043

Keller

Manfred Mueller

 

[2000] Fam.M.Mueller@t-on-line.de

Kraus

Dick Kraus

K056

[2007] 9 Laurel Hill Drive, Leverett, MA 01054-9562; e-mail: dickkraus1@yahoo.com

Kraus

John L. Weber

W214

[2002] 1017-21st Avenue, Longview, WA 98632-2227; ejweber@pocketmail.com

Kraus

Marsha Kraus

 

[2003] e-mail: mauskraus@mindspring.com

Kraus Deb DeWeese   [2001] deweese@albemarlenet.com
Kraus Mark M. Wanklyn   [2001] mwanklyn@pld.com
Kraus Janet Kraus   [2001] jikraus@hotmail.com
Kraus Lee and Jeanne Baker   [2001] lbjbvb@webtv.net
Kraus Tom Kraus   [2002] tkraus@agconsult.com
Kraus Tanya Hartung   [2002] 3200 1st Lane E, Parma, ID 83660-6153
Kraus Karen Ott   [2007] Morrill, NE; karenott@prairieweb.com

Loeppke

Archie R. Loeppke

L164

[1990] PO Box 266, Lakin, KS 67860

Loeppke

Ferddie E. Loeppke

L165

[1997] 608 Bopp Boulevard, Lakin, KS 67860 [died 1997]

Loeppke Mark M. Wanklyn   [2003] mwanklyn@pld.com

Luft

Terri Ellis

 

[2000] tmellis@fresnolaw.com

Meier

Robert L. Kraus

K165

[2003] 1508 Maple Lane, Riverton, WY 82501; kraushouse@wyoming.com

Meier/Meyer

Janet Deason

 

[2001] e-mail: FuzWuz44@aol.com

Meier Florence Bauder   [2001] emeraldforest@columbia-center.org

Romich/Romig

Karen F. Lane

L219

[1992] 125 West 28th Avenue, Torrington, WY 82240 [no response 1997]

Satler/Sattler

Nancy Lyttle

 

[1998] 74 Regent Cr, Brandon, MB, Canada R78 2W9; e-mail: LYTLEN@docker.com; [2001: e-mail address did not work].

Satler/Sattler Carrol Kaatz   [2001] penutswhitey@docker.com
Satler/Sattler Mark Kraft   [2002] kraft.haus@sk.sympatico.ca

Schmidt

John Sandrock

S683

[1996] 6215 Falcon Landing Court, Burke, VA 22015-2529 [no response 1997]

Schmidt Deb DeWeese   [2001] deweese@albemarlenet.com

Schultz

Janet Larson

L251

[1997] 100 Evergreen Drive NE, Rochester, MN 55906

Schafer Florence Bauder   [2001] emeraldforest@columbia-center.org

Strackbein

Albert Weitzel

W332

[1998] Box 165, Bridgeport, NE 69336

Stahr/Stehr Deb DeWeese   [2001] deweese@albemarlenet.com
Stahr/Stehr Katherine Griebel   [2001] krstahr@telusplanet.net
Stahr/Stehr Florence Bauder   [2001] emeraldforest@columbia-center.org

Strackbein

Bettye J. (Arnbrister) Grant

 

[1999] bettye21@comcast.net 

Strackbein

Connie Geringer Armstrong

 

[2008] 4532 W. Roberts Ave, Fresno, CA 93722; tele: 559-276-7950; e-mail: cgarmstrong@comcast.net

Strackbein

Dan Schafer

 

[1999] PineFire@aol.com

Strackbein

Lori Campbell

 

[2001] lorilori58@hotmail.com

Strackbein

Patti Sellenrick

 

[1999] gsellenr@cyberhighway.net

Strackbein

Yvonne Schulpius

 

[1998] 4220 S. Mary Ross Dr., New Berlin, WI 53151

Strackbein

??

N065

??

Strackbein

Laura Vallehos

 

[1999] Laura@Vallehos.net

Strackbein Faith O'Connell   [2003] FaithOConnell@wi.rr.com

Worster

Gary Martens

 

[2005] gp_mart_tx@yahoo.com

In this table the year in brackets indicates the year the address last known to be viable.

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