Article 61216 of soc.roots: From: bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu (Ed Bailey) Newsgroups: news.groups,soc.roots,alt.genealogy Subject: POLL RESULT: genealogy groups hierarchy Date: 26 Sep 1994 14:16:11 GMT Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 420 Cc: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu geneal@retsys.gun.de jewishgen@israel.nysernet.org Bcc: voting bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu kaleb@x.org RESULT on STRAW POLL Hierarchy for new genealogy groups Polling for the genealogy heirarchy closed 23:59:59 UTC, 21 September 1994. 323 responses were received. 12 were deleted as duplicates. 1 improper response was not corrected before the close of voting. For 310 responses, 156 are necessary for a majority. Totals: 92 rec.genealogy 170 soc.genealogy 39 soc.history.genealogy 9 No Preference soc.genealogy wins with a majority. This vote is was conducted by a neutral third party. Votetaker: Ed Bailey Proponent: Kaleb Keithley These results are being sent to the following mailing lists: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu geneal@retsys.gun.de jewishgen@israel.nysernet.org The choices were: a) rec.genealogy.* b) soc.genealogy.* c) soc.history.genealogy.* d) no preference amongst the choices Note: This was not the CFV. The results of this poll will be used solely to determine the names that are submitted in the final RFD and CFV. VOTING SUMMARY /-------- Number of votes | /--- rec.genealogy.* | |/-- soc.geneaology.* | ||/- soc.history.genealogy.* | ||| v vvv 9 --- [Absention votes expressing "No preference"] 5 --1 30 -1- 35 -12 9 -21 22 1-- 45 12- 20 123 5 132 1 2-1 35 21- 41 213 1 231 29 312 23 321 1 Bad STV ordering 1st choice 1st or 2nd choice rec.genealogy.* 92 170 soc.genealogy.* 170 267 soc.history.genealogy.* 39 108 NOTES FROM THE POLLTAKER This poll has had many unfortunate accidents including: 1) the original polltaker being called for jury duty, 2) confusing and inaccurate voting instructions, and 3) bad propogation. I assure everyone that I have been and remain an imparitial, disinterested participant in this poll. It has been an honor and privilege to help the voters with this survey. However, I would like to appologize for the second problem. This was the first Usenet STV vote in many years, and most of the problems can be traced to the newness of the voting system and our (UVV's) unfamiliarity with it. I would like to thank the genealogists of Usenet for acting as patient beta-testers. The propogation errors are also puzzling, and I have no explanation. STRAW POLL for GENEALOGY HEIRARCHY -- Final Vote Ack soc.history.genealogy -----+ soc.genealogy ----+| rec.genealogy ---+|| ||| 100142.3356@compuserve.com Saul Issroff -21 45654@delphi.com John L. Pimentel 12- 71242.3171@compuserve.com Ursula Thorne 123 aa869@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Helen Wolf 132 ab151@Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU Gary Ramthun 21- ABRAMSON@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Arthur S. Abramson 321 ABSEC@delphi.com DAVID BAKER 12- ac666@DAYTON.WRIGHT.EDU Bruce Deerhake 12- adamsw@ucs.orst.edu William H. Adams 321 aet@usl.edu Alicia E Towster 213 ah961@freenet.buffalo.edu Chris Andrle 1-- ah@usenix.org Alain Henon 312 aj739@freenet.carleton.ca Margaret Burwell 213 alg@cs.cornell.edu Anne Louise Gockel -12 andreas.badecke@phiger.com Andreas Badecke 1-- anthony.northey@acadiau.ca Anthony Northey -21 apl-ill@dupagels.lib.il.us Megan M Isely 312 avner-s@nova.novanet.org Richard Allen Avner -21 baltenbu@plains.NoDak.edu Bernard M Altenburg 12- BAMON@OCVAXC.CC.OBERLIN.EDU Jennifer R. Amon 213 barr@pop.psu.edu David Barr 321 batya@sauna.pn.com Barbara M. Olsen 312 baud@research.att.com Kurt Baudendistel 12- bcorbett@crl.com Bob Corbett -1- bcresas@bimcore.emory.edu Scott Sammons 312 bdoerr@umr.edu Robert Doerr -12 beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca Denis Beauregard 12- bill.burrows@qcs.org Bill Burrows 213 bill@leland.Stanford.EDU William Mills 12- billw@delphi.hdos.hac.com Bill Waggoner 21- bj@ksr.com B.J. Herbison 123 BLANE@umiami.ir.miami.edu Bryan W. Lane 12- bld2@cornell.edu Barbara Drogo 21- blocher@regent.enet.dec.com Marie Blocher 213 bms@pyramid.com Bruce Schlobohm -1- bobbie.verstraete@travel.com Bobbie Verstraete -12 boyla@ix.netcom.com Cecil E. (Gene) Duncan 321 Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk Brian Randell -12 brian_davis@maillink.berkeley.edu Brian Davis 213 Brian_Wilson_at_SYMOR-SUPPORT-2@symantec.com Brian Wilson 21- bs@ece.rice.edu Bart Sinclair 213 bsmith@mgmserv1.mgm.saic.com Bill Smith 312 buckc@rintintin.Colorado.EDU Carolyn Buck-Gengler 12- cabezasc@libr.stedwards.edu Connie Cabezas 213 camfield@olympus.net Tom Camfield 312 CAMPBELL@WFOCLAN.USBM.GOV Woody Campbell 1-- CandyEddie@aol.com Ed Goldenberg candyeddie@aol.com -1- cgaunt@umich.edu Christine Gaunt 213 chad@vellum.demon.co.uk Chad Hanna 21- chafen@comp.uark.edu Clara J. Hafen -1- Cheryl.Singhal@f422.n109.z1.fidonet.org Cheryl Singhal 213 chilton@awod.com Carl Hilton 21- chlamy@acpub.duke.edu Elizabeth Harris 21- chrisg@se01.elk.miles.com Chris Trippel 21- christoph.hoelzl@phiger.com Christoph Hoelzl 1-- claflin@spot.Colorado.EDU David Claflin -1- close@lunch.asd.sgi.com Diane Barlow Close -12 com045@aberdeen.ac.uk John S. Lemon 12- crd@beauty.focushope.edu David Claflin 213 csaamw@urc.tue.nl H.J.Michiel Wijers 1-- cward@Think.COM Christopher Ward 1-- D.M.Pickles@bristol.ac.uk David Pickles 12- D.W.Wright@bnr.co.uk David Wright 321 dale@wunder.wustl.edu Mary A. Dale-Bannister 321 DanKnight@aol.com Daniel Knight -12 daschulte@csbsju.edu Darrell A. Schulte --- David.A.Chapin@Dartmouth.EDU David Chapin 123 David.Cockburn@lambada.oit.unc.edu David Cockburn 12- david@frodo.wes.army.mil David Sanders 123 dchapin@er.Arco.COM David Chapin 123 dclark@msai.com Clark Geddie 213 dcorbin@ozarks.sgcl.lib.mo.us Doug Corbin 12- debyns@freenet.scri.fsu.edu Deby Nunes 21- dedge@wln.com Dexter Edge -12 dennett@image.Kodak.COM Charles R. Dennett 12- Dennis.M.Fernkes@cdev.com Dennis M. Fernkes 321 desjardb@ERE.UMontreal.CA Bertrand DESJARDINS 12- df@unlinfo.unl.edu Dave Furstenau 123 dfo@tko.vtt.fi douglas foxvog 21- dgarnitz@cap.gwu.edu Dan Garnitz 21- dick@bgs.com Dick Schoeller 213 djud@netcom.com David J. Sencer 312 dkortenk@uwspmail.uwsp.edu Daniel J. Kortenkamp 12- DMDworkin2@aol.com David M. Dworkin 123 doris@phiger.com Doris Niehoff 1-- doyle.leffers@wcoast.cts.com Doyle Leffers 213 Dresden@aol.com Tom Laichas -1- dsmith@luna.cas.usf.edu Drew Smith 1-- DvorahSV@aol.com Deborah Schafer (DvorahSV@aol.com) -21 ed@odi.com Ed Schwalenberg --- ed.chapman@idealink.washington.dc.us Ed Chapman 21- edge@corona.med.utah.edu Karen L. Edge -1- eggertj@ll.mit.edu Jim Eggert 21- Elmar.Steinbach@gmd.de Elmar Steinbach 312 ERWRIGHT@uga.cc.uga.edu Ethelind R. Wright 123 evans@info.pgh.pa.us Arthur Evans Jr --- everingham@methane.sri.com Kimball G. Everingham --1 feminist@eskimo.com William Affleck-Asch 312 FlairA7429@aol.com --- fmarmor@dorsai.dorsai.org Florence_Marmor -12 fr@icdi10.compu.com W. Fred Rump 12- frankens@mibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de Ruben Frankenstein -12 Fred_Half@smtp.esl.com Fred Half 213 frisk@complex.is Fridrik Skulason 12- FSPRADLIN@delphi.com Freddie L. Spradlin 321 FUGATEJ@mail.firn.edu Judith M. E. Fugate 21- fuy1@gl.umbc.edu Francis A Uy -12 gallaghe@claudius.uncg.edu Bill Mittelstdt 312 galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu Denis McKeon 21- Gary_Palgon.DBS@dbsnotes.dbsoftware.com Gary Palgon 123 gcurtis@amoco.com Gary Curtis 321 georg.ferstl@phiger.com Georg Ferstl 1-- GeorgeLG@aol.com George L. Greene -12 gerhard.otte@phiger.com Gerhard Otte 1-- GFSmiltB@aol.com Milton E. Botwinick -21 gjf@ornl.gov George Farris 213 gjv@corpus.DNET.hcc.com Glenn J. (Jerry) Vaughn 213 gleblanc@fox.nstn.ns.ca Guy Le Blancq 21- glenh@abbott.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM Glen Hagen -12 golden@huhepu.harvard.edu Mitchell Golden -12 GOTT1@delphi.com Paul Goettlich -12 gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu Brennan T. Price -12 guchw@gd.chalmers.se Hans Vappula -12 hb326be@unidui.uni-duisburg.de Andrea Becker 312 hbladm47@uconnvm.uconn.edu George Waller 123 hdckwth@CC.UManitoba.CA Harry W. Duckworth 312 hench@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu Virginia E. Hench 213 henryutz@tmn.com Henry Utz 321 hiscrp@leonis.nus.sg Richard Pennell -1- IRWIN.GREENWALD@mogur.com Irwin D. Greenwald 21- ivar.sonne-moerch@dkb.dk Ivar Sonne-Moerch --1 Jack.E.Hokenstrom@cdc.com Jack Hokenstrom 312 Jack_McIlnay@star9gate.mitre.org Jack McIlnay 213 jaf@shore.net Jim Fraser 12- jahansen@networksnw.com John A. Hansen 21- Jan.Lillieskold@sundsvall.trab.se Jan Lilliesko"ld 123 jan@gondor.gun.de Jan Niehusmann 1-- jaus@loc.gov Judith Austin 21- jayhall@xmission.com Everton -21 JCHBN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU John F. Chandler -12 jdege@winternet.com Dee Dege -1- jeff@math.uchicago.edu Jeff Adler --1 jem@rachel.wheaton.edu Jim Mann 213 jennings@alph01.triumf.ca Byron Jennings 213 jep@baugo.elk.miles.com Joseph Perry 21- jester@elmer.orl.mmc.com Wes Jester 1-- jgrubs@voxbox.norden1.com Jim Grubs, W8GRT 321 JHL@NAIF.JPL.NASA.GOV Jay Lieske -12 jim@styx.equinox.gen.nz Jim McCaughan 213 jimes@rd17dmorll.er.usgs.GOV Jeffrey L. Imes -1- JLV@tusk.gc.edu Jesse Vaughan 132 jmanley@svpal.org J Manley --1 jmiller@se01.elk.miles.com Julie Miller 21- Joao.Portugal@individual.puug.pt Joao Antonio Portugal -12 joerg.klingseisen@phiger.com Joerg Klingseisen 1-- john@meertech.demon.co.uk John Woodgate 21- JohnS20725@aol.com John Stevenson 312 Jonathan.Gardner@durham.ac.uk Jonathan Gardner 12- jsanders@phys.ksu.edu Justin M. Sanders 123 jsh@icslab.nynexst.com John S. Hirth -21 junter@hpoemb.sj.hp.com Jan Unter 21- jxl@plaza.ds.adp.com Jack Laughlin 123 kaleb@x.org Kaleb KEITHLEY 12- Karen_Isaacson@rand.org Karen Isaacson 21- karl@VNET.IBM.COM Karl Anderson -1- kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU Kathleen Much 213 kattke@intgp1.att.com Gerald W. Kattke 213 KBOX@COE.unt.edu Kathrine Box -12 kehs@east.alsys.com David Kehs 12- kfiry@Indigo.co.il Yuval Kfir -1- KFJLS@acad1.alaska.edu John Scoblic 12- Kjell.Tomren@mrih.no Kjell Inge Tomren 132 klf@wmsa.att.com Karen L. Fenton -12 knapp@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM Geoffrey Knapp 21- koosh@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us Bernard Kouchel 312 kreme@netcom.com Lewis Butler 321 krlund@netcom.com Kermit R. Lund 321 kschroed@wiley.csusb.edu Kathy Schroeder -1- kspence@utdallas.edu William K Spence --- kwinkelman@VNET.IBM.COM Keith Winkelman -12 Laurie_McDonough@postoffice.brown.edu LAURIE J. MCDONOUGH 12- lawrence@crl.com J. Dennis Lawrence 12- ldunbar@services.dese.state.mo.us Lawrence Dunbar 312 leanne@cix.compulink.co.uk Leanne Glezen 312 lebo@bscr.uga.edu Richard Alan Lebo 123 Lee.Weller@anat.utas.edu.au Lee Weller 321 lee_ruggels@qm.sri.com Lee Ruggels -1- les.fenton@chrysalis.org Leslie E. Fenton 123 lherberg@ion.bpmf.ac.uk Jacob Herberg -12 lik@eecs.umich.edu Leonard Kamlet 312 linda@mercury.interpath.net Linda Hopkins 321 LJensen@aol.com Larry R. Jensen 12- lme@gtech.com Linda M. Easterbrooks 12- lorenz@cip1.uni-hannover.de Ursula Lorenz 321 lyn@cs.su.oz.au LYNETTE VINCENT 231 lynnoliv@tdkt.mn.org Lynn Olivier -1- Mac_Daver@pdxml1.mentorg.com David Reynolds 12- MagDeRo@aol.com Maggie Della Rocca 12- marianne@ccnet.com Marianne Wolfman 21- matt@icdi10.compu.com Matt Dressen 1-- matt@spike1.phiger.com Matthias Dressen 1-- matthias@tc3.chemie.uni-bielefeld.de Matthias Ehrhard 213 Maury_Kitces@cpqm.saic.com Maurice Kitces 213 mbathrick@VNET.IBM.COM Michael D. Bathrick -12 mbr@dadd.ti.com Martin Roberts 21- mclellan@ll.mit.edu Sandra McLellan 123 mevans@nbnet.nb.ca Matthew Evans 21- mg@ac.duke.edu Michael Grubb 321 Mike.More@p2.f23.n243.z1.fidonet.org Mike More 123 mikem@garth.grdl.noaa.gov Michael Morrison -1- mmt@RedBrick.COM M Mike Taksar -21 MNHMS017@SIVM.SI.EDU Ed Venzke 12- morrisr@aur.alcatel.com Robin Morris -1- mpor@tenet.edu Marcy Porter -12 mtmitchell@dow.com Mark Mitchell 321 mueller@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU Michael Mueller 12- mugdan@uni-muenster.de Joachim Mugdan -12 NadineRG@aol.com Nadine Goldman 312 NORMAN@macalstr.edu Charles M. Norman 312 okner@nova.umd.edu Ben Okner 213 olson@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu Margaret J. Olson 21- orzech@well.sf.ca.us Dan Orzech 213 Oystein.Groevlen@idt.unit.no Oystein Groevlen 123 ozzel001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Tony Ozzello 21- p277ric@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de Otto-Georg Richter, PhD, Germany 12- paque@pangea.Stanford.EDU Julie Paque 12- Patricia_Boren@rand.org Patricia Boren 12- Paul.Sparks@dark.wmeonlin.sacbbx.com Paul Sparks -1- paulh@phantom.com Paul Silverstone In the bras next to 321 pdc@lunch.asd.sgi.com Paul Close 321 peter.michaud@inforail.com Peter Michaud -12 pgclark@netcom.com Pamela Clark 132 pierre@shell.Portal.COM Pierre Uszynski 1-- pkenner@purchasing-po.reqs.uiowa.edu Pat Kenner 123 plblum@dorsai.dorsai.org Phyllis Blumenfeld 312 po@SEI.CMU.EDU Tricia Oberndorf -1- pp000749@interramp.com Glen Gilchrist --- PRFAIN@ccmail.monsanto.com P Faintich -12 psszewi@psab.posten.se Ewa Wiman 12- pstowne@zargon.lerc.nasa.gov Charlie Towne 12- PZAVON@delphi.com Peter Zavon 21- rainer@retsys.GUN.de Reinhold F. Herrmann 21- raylindsay@abare.gov.au Ray Lindsay 12- redhead@photon.photon.com Jeff Johnson 213 reep@eskimo.com Zeke Lorens 12- rep@america.net Thomas Jordan 213 REYNOLDS_ML@corning.com Melody L. Reynolds 21- RGONDER@TrentU.ca Ray Gonder 213 rgrassy@barracuda.fhcrc.org Richard Grassy 132 rhumphri@cln.etc.bc.ca Reg Humphries 213 rlittman@darkwing.uoregon.edu Richard A. Littman --- rodney.aerojetpd.com!fordes Scott Forde -1- rohm@ryan.bu.edu Ryan Rohm 12- rollien@pacifier.com Rolland Nielsen 321 ronsmith@lanl.gov Ron Smith 21- rosebear@bga.com Arnold E. Dobson 1-- rotter@haley.genetics.bio-rad.com Richard J. Otte 12- RSLA@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu Ray Lanier 312 rwm@tigress.co.uk Ron MacRae -1- s.phillips@mail.utexas.edu Sue Phillips 12- SAKAELBER@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Sherry) Anne Kaelber 12- satterth@crl.com Ruth Satterthwaite 312 SCHWARTZ_RICK/HP2000_80@idacom.hp.com Rick Schwartz 213 sfr@pdact.pd.necisa.oz.au Stephen Rothwell 213 shadow@mindspring.com Bill Spurlock -12 shaunc@faceplant.gvg.TEK.COM High Octane Fuel 1-- silvera_david@space.honeywell.com David Silvera -1- SitaL@aol.com Sita Likuski 213 SKush@aol.com Rabbi Steven Kushner -12 smarsden@ozarks.sgcl.lib.mo.us Stephen Marsden 312 smithwel@u.washington.edu Terri Smith-Weller 321 ssetnick@sun.cis.smu.edu Sandra Setnick -1- staib@noodle.med.yale.edu Larry Staib -1- steiner@muppet.dnet.ge.com Gary Steiner 12- SteveAWr@aol.com Steve Wright -12 stone@mars.rowan.edu Don C. Stone -1- suej@microsoft.com sue jackson -1- susan.king@trace.cgsg.com Susan E. King 213 Susan.Plass@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU Susan Plass 21- TERENCE@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU Terence L. Day 321 TGUMPEL@vms.huji.ac.il Tom Gumpel, PhD 123 thurston.ackerman@rath.com Thurston Ackerman 2-1 Tom_Lincoln@rand.org Thomas L. Lincoln -1- torsten.schneider@phiger.com Torsten Schneider 1-- ttw@beltway.att.com Thomas Wetmore 12- Tyrilla@aol.com Pat Thomas 312 U47543@UICVM.UIC.EDU Kim Savage (312) 413-5223 -12 ugkistne@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Glen Kistner -21 ulfb@nada.kth.se Ulf Berggren -12 una@doliolum.biology.yale.edu Una Smith --1 uwe.fuerst@phiger.com Uwe S. Fuerst 1-- VETORB@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu Pollyana Brown 312 Vieser@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de Christian Vieser 12- vlshanby@reading.ac.uk Pat Hanby -1- w4oyi@occ.uky.edu George Wilson --- wally@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com Wally Garchow -12 warren@warren.vis.com Warren Blatt 1-- WarrenK@kovcomp.demon.co.uk Warren L. Kovach 213 wcgo@nynexst.com Bill Ortel 213 WELCHL@EPNMV1.NCIFCRF.GOV Lester Welch 312 wfl@Cybernetics.NET Bill Leatherbury 312 Will.Maynard@gsfc.nasa.gov William L. Maynard 213 WILMA.DAVID@epamail.epa.gov DAVID WILMA 415-744-2485 --- witmergs@ttown.apci.com George Witmer 213 wmadavis@iglou.com William A. Davis -12 wmorgel@pepper.cjm.rain.com Wilma Morgel 213 wolfgang.anetsberger@phiger.com Wolfgang Anetsberger 1-- workman@athena.tay.dec.com Marjean Holmes Workman 312 wrf@math.purdue.edu William R. Fuller -1- wtm@research.att.com Bill Marshall -1- Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ msg1000@phx.cam.ac.uk Michael Grant ! Bad STV ordering Ed Bailey Member, Usenet Volunteer Votetakers -- Ed Bailey | Voice: (512) 471-4198 Fax: (512) 471-6715 Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: bailey@{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu, Univ. of Texas at Austin | u70262@c.nersc.gov, or pnab643@chpc.utexas.edu Austin TX 78712 | "No pithy quotes. 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