Taulbee List Public Archives for March 1998 MARCH 1 Subject: Index Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:51:44 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 04:59:02 EST From: Annacarole To: Taulbee-L@rootsweb.com Does anyone know if there are any birth and death indexes for any other state, other than KY and are they on line? Carole Subject: Taulbee Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 19:33:22 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 22:40:52 -0500 From: "The Henner's" To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com Hi to everyone, My name is Mary and I have just recently signed on as a subscriber to the Taulbee group. The internet is still a little new to me so I hope this goes through to everyone. My g-grandmother was Lula Taulbee, who I have very little info on. I do know that she had a sister, Mary Jane Taulbee. Both of these Taulbee's are on page 74 of Rose's book. I have sent away for a copy of Mary Jane's death certificate and if my hunch is correct I will be able to link them to Greenberry Taulbee (1838-1886). Then I will post what I can about these two ladies. Their births, marriages, deaths, spouses and children. I would like to thank all who had a part in putting Rose's book online. It will be a great reference. I would also like to hear from anyone that has any info on my line. Thanks again, Mary Subject: Indiana marriages Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:16:30 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:26:00 -0500 From: hgask10543@juno.com To: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com I don't know if these have been posted before. Louise ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hendricks County, Indiana marriages - before 1850 Ira TALBEE & Sarah BOATRIGHT, 10-13-1838 Ira TALBEE & Kiziah JONES, 11-08-1839 Mary TALBEE & William DEWIT, 11-16-1828 Hiram TAULBEE & Evelina BUTTERY, 01-26-1832 William TAULBEE & Margaret BOWMAN, 08-02-1832 Silas TOLBY & Sarah DAVIDSON, 03-23-1833 and Jemima BIRCHFIELD & Charles LEET, 6-29-1833 Lawrence County, Ind. Martha BIRCHFIELD & William NEES, 12-23-1838 Clay County, Ind. Malinda J. BIRCHFIELD & Joseph DAVIS, 3-19-1846 Jefferson Co., Ind. I am posting these BIRCHFIELD's because: James Birchfield, s/o Adam Birchfield and Nancy Caroline Taulbee, went to Fayette Co., ILL. and Montgomery Co., IN., maybe these Birchfields have some connection ??. March 8 Subject: Taulbee List manager comments Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:55:44 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 20:01:20 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list Dear Taulbee Cousins. We are over the half century mark in members, which is 5 times what I expected when we started this list. I want to encourage the new members to visit the online descendancy posts several of our members have posted and to post their own in hopes of making additional connections. For those who do not know, go to our website at http://www.doitnow.com/~moravia/index.html and scroll down to the link. I have gotten back to updating the archives so that all current posts are in the archives. The archives are also on the Taulbee pages. New members should take some time to read through the archives. All except one is a text file which you can save and load into your word processor. The one file which is html will save as text and load the same way. Now that the transcription of Rose Taulbee's book is complete and on line, I hope everyone will post any documented data they have and state the documentation and the relevant page of Rose's book, if any. If nothing else, we will have the documentation in our archives, although I am trying to find time to it to our web page and am still trying to decide what kind of file to make to store just the documentation. If someone wants to author a monthly or quarterly, or annual newsletter concerning progress in tracing the Taulbee line and documenting Rose's book, feel free. It is something I don't have time to do. I am beginning to believe that time is becoming as scared as Democrates in Arizona. I feel very much alone at times. Our obits page is encountering some problems caused by the popularity of the Obituary Project on Genweb. So many people are logging on to the various obit pages to do searches that it becomes a kind of hog and overwealms the rootsweb server and it gets knocked off line until peak time is over. That is why you will get messages saying the file cannot be found on the server. I wish it would simply say that access was denied until later, but it gives a message as if you had the wrong URL. I have a little over 100 of our obits (out of at least 2,000) on the page and by myself, it may be a while before they are all there. I need to get them there to free up web space for all the things you send me from time to time. Right now, I have 17MB tied up on the page. For those who have forgotten, URL for our obit page is http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwqury/Ky/TaulbeeObits/index.cgi From there, when the system is active, you have access to the entire national system. Have Mom's sister coming down this week for ten day stay. May be out or touch for awhile. Subject: New Obits URLs Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:57:45 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 14:08:50 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: combs list , taulbee list After being off line for 3 days, the searchable obit pages have just been moved to their own cgi server, taking the load off rootsweb's other server. For our Taulbee (and Combs) obits: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~usgwqury/Ky/TaulbeeObits/index.cgi For the national search page and a list of county pages: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~usgwqury/qindex.html This URL is for both obits and queries. That should make things easier for those trying to access these pages. It will certainly make it easier for me to post to our page. March 10 Subject: Taulbee - Rose Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:35:01 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:44:58 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list This is obviously meant for all of you. From: "Bettie Jimenez" 15:12 Subject: To: Hello all Cousins; I am sending this and Thanking all of you for all the work you have put into this . Rose Taulbee ( Taulbee Book ) would be proud of you amd so am I. I have put in 38 years of nit-picking info on my families. I found Rose after about 15 years and we started writing as she had just began to hunt the Taulbee's. We use to get into some of the darnest --mail-- fights trying to figure out who did what with which. She had retired and was able to travel while I had to raise my family, so she would send info to me and I would try to figure out all the connecions. We had so many cousins marring that I had to draw charts at times to explain to her who was who. One of my daughers and a granddaughter have almost taken over the hunting now and very interested in Genealogy. They both have computers as I do ( just been on line less than a month), and we have the Family Tree Maker since it came out. Hope to get my new Up Date soon. I have helped with several other Books in my family and try to keep in touch with everyone I contact. You will find me listed on the Forpage and page 163. I am still trying to find those Clines of mine so if anyone wants to contack me, may do so. Bettie Jimenez E-mail----bjozks@ micoks.net Subject: Taulbee, John Dial Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:34:28 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:45:08 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list This is a transcription of the jpg Nadine sent me of John Dial Taulbee's obituary which appeared in the "Daily Light" newspaper Waxahachie,Ellis County,Texas. dated: Friday Nov 25 1910. There is quite a bit of information given. Mrs. J. T. Shanon is John's Daughter Sarah. I don't have the web space right now to display the jpg. Actually, I don't have the time to free some up, but will get to it. JOHN D. TAULBEE DEAD. Pneumonia Results in the Death of an Aged Citizen The death angel visited the home of J. T. Shannon, who lives one and one-half miles west of Waxahachie, Thursday night at 9 o'clock and claimed John D. Taulbee, an aged and highly respected citizen. Mr. Taulbee would have been 84 years old if he had lived until the fourth day of December next. He was taken with pneumonia Monday morning and lived only four days. Mr. Taulbee was the father of eleven children, nine of whom survive him and are as follows: Mrs Celia Whitt of Fort Worth; W. J. Taulbee of Crawford, Texas; J. F. Taulbee of Georgetown, Texas: John R. Taulbee of Durant, Okla; Mrs. Mary J. Whitt of Kentucky; Mrs. Martha Stephenson of Ray; Mrs. John T. Shannon; Mrs. Wm McClanahan and Granville Taulbee of Waxahachie. The funeral services were held Friday afternoon at 8 o'clock at the residence of J. T. Shannon, and the remains were interred in the city cemetery at 4 o'clock. The deceased came to Texas in 1882, and has resided in Ellis county since 1887. While I have your attention, let me pass on a technical item that drove me nuts these past two weeks. I found myself thrown off line at random times, from being on just a couple of minutes, to maybe twenty. I accused my ISP of being as bad as AOL. It turns out that my next door neighbor got a new cordless phone that is on the same chanel as my own. Everytime he would get a call or call out, it would throw my computer off line. Solution, unplug my cordless. Just something to keep in mind in case it ever happens to you. March 12 Subject: Military Service of William H. Taulbee, Miles K. Taulbee, and oth ers Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:13:14 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:20:12 -0500 From: "Taulbee, Gerald H." To: "'taulbeepages'" CC: "'steve'" , "'matt'" , "'dave'" The following is the verbatim transcript of a letter to Hon. Dayton E. Phillips, House of Representatives from War Department Special Staff, Legislative Liaison Division, Wash., DC, 24 Jul 1947. Please note that the Paul S. Taulbee referenced in the letter was my grandfather. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------- Dear Mr. Phillips: This is in further reference to your letter of May 23rd relative to the request of Dr. Paul S. Taulbee, Route #4, Sevierville, Tennessee, for information concerning the military records of members of his family: An examination of the records in the Adjutant General's Office has produced the following information: a. The records show that William H. Taulbee served in the War with Mexico as a private in Captain Robinson's company, 3d Regiment (Thompson's) Kentucky Volunteers, which organization subsequently became Company C, 3d Regiment (Thomson's [sic]) Kentucky Infantry. He was enrolled and mustered into service to date 28 September 1847 at Louisville, Ky., for the period during the War with Mexico; was promoted to corporal 11 April 1848, and was mustered out and honorably discharged 21 July 1848 at Louisville, Ky., as a corporal. His age is shown as 23 years. b. The records show that one Miles K. Taulbee, born in Morgan Co., Ky., enlisted 3 November 1894 in Dallas, Texas, and was honorably discharged 2 November 1897 at Ft. Brown, Texas, by reason of expiration of term of service, a corporal, Company H, 23 Infantry, character Excellent. Reenlisted 11 November 1897 at Ft. Sam Houston, Texas and was honorably discharged 10 November 1900 at Ft. Myer, Va., by reason of expiration of term of service a 1st Sgt., Tr. L, 5th Cavalry, with character Excellent. Again enlisted 18 April 1901 at Dallas, Texas, and was honorably discharged 7 January 1902 at the Presidio of San Francisco, California, a 1st Sgt., Troop H, 11th Cavalry to enable him to accept commission in the Puerto Rico Provisional Regt. of Inf. He was appointed 1st Lt., P.R.P.R.I. 27 December 1901 and was honorably discharged 30 June 1904. He was appointed Captain, Puerto Rico Inf. 6 July 1904; promoted Major 3 June 1916; promoted Lieut. Col. N. A. 11 June 1918; promoted Colonel U.S.A. 30 October 1918; honorably discharged 15 April 1919. Retired 17 November 1920. Died 30 September 1924 Washington, D.C. c. The records further show that one Western C. Taulbee, born in Morgan County, Ky., enlisted 3 November 1894 at Dallas, Texas, and was honorably dischared 2 November 1897 at Ft. Brown, Texas, by reason of expiraion of term of service, a private, Co. H, 23d Inf. Reenlisted 3 November 1897 at Ft. Brown, Texas, and was honorably discharged 16 January 1899 at Ft. Sam Houston, Texas, by way of favor, a sergeant, Co. L, 6th Inf., character Excellent. Reenlisted 25 March 1899 at Lexington, Ky., and was honorably discharged 24 March 1902 at San Augustine Barracks, Iloilo, P.I., by reason of expiration of term of service, a Sergeant, Co. D, 6th Infantry. Character excellent. d. The records show that Joseph Fulton Taulbee, born 1 November 1876 near White Oak, Magoffin County, Ky., was appointed a Cadet to the U.S. Miltary Academy 19 June 1897 to 25 January 1898; again appointed 20 June 1898; appointed 2nd Lt. of Cavalry 12 June 1902; accepted 17 July 1902; promoted 1st Lt., 11 March 1911; Captain 1 July 1916; Major (temp) 5 August 1917; Q.M.C., 9 July 1918; vacated Major (temp) 12 August 1918; was relieved from Q.M.C., 30 June 1920; Major 1 July 1920; transferred to Q.M.C. 5 August 1920; promoted Lt. Col. 2 August 1925 and Colonel 1 July 1934. He was appointed a Major of Infantry in the National Army on 5 August 1917; accepted 29 August 1917. He resigned his commission as Major of Infantry, National Army and accepted appointment as Major of Cavalry (temp) 5 February 1918. He was appointed Lt. Col. of Cavaly (temp), U.S.A., 30 July 1918; accepted 12 August 1918 and was honorably discharged 30 June 1920. He died at Station Hosp., Ft. Sam Houston, Texas, 29 April 1938. [see also below] e. The records also show that one Milton H. Taulbee enlisted 27 December 1901; was assigned to Co. B, 5th Infantry and was honorably discharged 26 December 1904 by reason of expiration of term of service, a sergeant. He reenlisted 26 December 1904; was assigned to Company B, 5th Infantry and was honorably discharged 26 December 1907 by reason of expiration of term of service, a Sergeant. Subsequent service in World War I. [Note: I have a copy of DD Form 13 Statement of Service for Milton H. Taulbee, too cumbersome to transcribe because it's in columns. WWI service from 22 February 1915 to 3 January 1918, NG, ORC, and NA status. He retired AUS 30 September 1941 as Col.] f. Paul S. Taulbee, Jr. [Omitted in keeping with Robert's policy not to publish info on living persons. Paul is my uncle and still alive and kickin'.] g. The records further show that James M. Taulbee, who gave his residence as Cleveland, Virginia, accepted commission as first lieutenant, Medical Reserve Corps 30 July 1917, and reported for active duty 31 August 1917; served at Fort Oglethorpe, Georgia, and Camp Lee, Virginia, and was honorably discharged 4 February 1918, a first lieutenant, Medical Corps, by reason of disability. He was placed on the Emergency Officers' Retirement List, 27 September 1928, a first lieutenant, Medical Corps. [Note: James, who was my great-uncle (my grandfather's brother) went on to a career in the U.S. Navy, from the 1930s to his retirement in the 1960s (?).] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- The following from the National Archives, forwarded to my grandfather, Paul S. Taulbee, via a letter dated 3 June 1968 from Roy A. Taylor, Member of Congress, 11th District, NC: Official Statement of Service of Edgar Warren Taulbee 1. The records show Edgar Warren Taulbee, 02834, was born 3 November 1885. 2. He was appointed a Cadet, United States Military Academy, 15 June 1906, and served to 15 June 1910, when he was graduated and appointed Second Lieutenant, Cavalry, Regular Army; accepted commission as Second Lieutenant, Cavalry, Regular Army, 15 June 1910; promoted First Lieutenant, Cavalry, Regular Army, 1 July 1916; accepted 20 July 1916; promoted Captain, Cavalry, Regular Army 15 May 1917; accepted 28 May 1917; appointed Major, Field Artillery, National Army, 2 November 1917; accepted 3 November 1917; promoted Lieutenant Colonel, Field Artillery, National Army, 4 October 1918; accepted 21 November 1918; honorably discharged from commission as Lieutenant Colonel, Field Artillery, National Army only, 25 September 1919; promoted Major, Cavalry, Regular Army, 1 July 1920; promoted Lieutenant Colonel, Cavalry, Regular Army, 1 October 1934; accepted 18 October 1934; promoted Colonel, Cavalry, Regular Army, 1 March 1939; accepted 18 March 1939; retired from active service in the grade of Colonel, 30 November 1945, and is now Colonel, United States Army, Retired. 3. He had the following period of active duty as a commissioned officer: from 15 June 1910 to 30 November 1945. ------------------------------------------- Statement of the Military Service of Joseph Fulton Taulbee (as of 5 May 1938): He joined and served with the 2nd Cavalry at Fort Myer, Virginia from September 30, 1902 to December 18, 1903; en route to the Philippine Islands (sailed Dec. 20, 1903) to February 18, 1904; with the 2nd Cavalry at Camp Wallace, P.I. to May 7, 1905; with his regiment at Camp Stotsenburg, P.I. to January 5, 1906; on leave and en route to the United States to February 28, 1906; with the Cavalry at Fort Riley, Kansas to October 31, 1906; student, Mounted Service School, Fort Riley, Kansas to June 25, 1907; Instructor, Mounted Service School, Fort Riley, Kansas to July 15, 1909; on temporary duty at Fort Ethan Allen, Vermont and on leave to September 30, 1909; with the 2nd Cavalry at Fort Des Moines, Iowa to November 28, 1909; en route to the Philippine Islands (sailed Dec. 6, 1909) to January 8, 1910; with the 2nd Cavalry at Augur Barracks, P.I. to July 23, 1910; on detached service as Presidente of Municipality of Jolo Jolo, P.I. to June 21, 1911; with the 2nd Cavalry at Augur Barracks, P.I. to August 26, 1911; on detached service as Presidente of Municipality of Jolo Jolo, P.I. to December 31, 1911; with his regiment at Augur Barracks, P.I. to May 4, 1912; en route to the United States (sailed May 15, 1912 to June 9, 1912; with the 2nd Cavalry at Fort Bliss, Texas to (detached service at Alcatrz, California from July 19, 1912 to December 15, 1912) July 6, 1913; student, The Mounted Service School, Fort Riley, Kansas to May 1, 1914; on leave and en route to new station to May 13, 1914; with the 2nd Cavalry at Fort Ethan Allen, Vermont to (detached service Front Royal, Virginia purchasing horses from May 30, 1917 to August 31, 1917) September 3, 1917; organizing and training the 305th Military Police Company at Camp Lee, Virginia to March 25, 1918; with the 16th Cavalry commanding the post of San Benito, Texas to (detached service at School of Small Arms, Camp Perry, Ohio from June 7, 1918 to July 14, 1918) July 17, 1918; in the office Chief Remount Service, Washington, D.C. to October 18, 1920; Assistant Adjutant and Quartermaster, Remount Purchasing and Breeding Headquarters, Kansas City, Missouri to February 23, 1922; Acting Chief of Staff, 84th Division, Organized Reserves, Indianapolis, Indiana to (Chief of Staff, 84th Division, Organized Reserves at Summer Training Camp, Camp Knox, Kentucky from July 1, 1923 to July 22, 1923) July 31, 1923; commanding Remount Purchasing and Breeding Headquarters, Kansas City, Missouri to March 23, 1927; en route to Honolulu, T.H. (sailed March 30, 1927) to April 5, 1927; Executive Officer, Schofield Barracks, T.H. to May 26, 1927; Division and Post Quartermaster, Hawaiian Division and Schofield Barracks, T.H. to April 1, 1930; enroute to the United States and on leave to August 3, 1930; Acting Division Quartermaster, 2nd Division, Post Quartermaster, Fort Sam Houston, Texas and commanding 2nd Division, Quartermaster Trains to February 19, 1931; Post Quartermaster, Randolph Field, Texas to June 29, 1935; Post Quartermaster, Fort Monroe, Virginia to August 1, 1936; Post Quartermaster, Fort Bragg, North Carolina to February 24, 1938; at his home awaiting retirement to April 29, 1938. Colonel Taulbee died April 29, 1938 at Fort Sam Houston, Texas. Subject: Taulbee, Andrew Jack Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:19:00 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:31:56 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list The following was posted on our obit page at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~usgwqury/Ky/TaulbeeObits/index.cgi in reference to the obit of Andrew Jack Tualbee which Carole sent us. Any of you knowing the answer please respond to the individual. Re: ANDREW JACK TAULBEE, COMBS Posted by S. D. Taulbee on Thu, 12 Mar 1998, at 10:08 a.m., in response to ANDREW JACK TAULBEE, COMBS, Andrew Jack (Jackson?) Taulbee was my grandfather. His son, Bennie Taulbee (living now in Vista, California), is my father. We are searching for my father's mother's grave. Andrew was married six times. My grandmother's name was Maggie, I believe. She died soon after my father was born. He believes that she was buried in Breathitt County, most likely in Frozen, Kentucky. If anyone has any information as to how we might find her grave, please let us know at the e-mail address. Thank you very much. The original obit read: TAULBEE, ANDREW JACK, 74 d. Feb. 1967, in Winchester. md. Nannie 6 sons, Johnny Taulbee of Salyersville, Bennie Taulbee of El Monte, CA, James Taulbee, Frankfort, Raymond Taulbee of Madison County, Jerry C. and Edgar Taulbee, Winchester; 1 brother, Jerry Taulbee of Dayton, OH 1 sister, Mrs. Della Combs of Winchester, KY; 14 grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren. I will forward these query posting to the list so you won't have to subscribe to the obit mail list which would cause you to receive each obit I posted. No need for that since they are all on our page now anyway. -- Subject: Taulbee, Oscar Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:21:16 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:34:12 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list Received the following from a non list member: While reading the Kentucky Explorer for Feb. 1998, I noticed a picture of Oscar Taulbee and his family (about 30 people) taken in 1919. You probably know about this already but I wanted to make sure. I do not get the Kentucky Explorer, don't have time for what I do get now, but if anyone wants to check it out.... > > Subject: Lula & Mary J. Taulbee > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:38:52 -0500 > From: The Henner's > To: taulbee-1@rootsweb.com > > I wrote a couple of weeks ago saying I had sent away for the death > certificate of Mary Jane Taulbee. I received it in the mail today and > it confirmed what I was thinking. > The Taulbee's are linked to my grandfather's side of the family. He > died in 1939. His mother was Lula Taulbee. My grandmother told me > before she died that Lula and Mary Jane were sisters and they had a > brother named Sewell. She also said that Lula and Mary married > brothers. They were Able and William Wagers. Now I am wondering if > they could be connected to Wiley Wagers, second husband of Sarah King. > The death certificate of Mary Jane Wagers has Green Taulbee for her > father and Sarah King as her mother. Mary Jane's husband's death > certificate has Felix Wagers and Susan Ann Hampton listed as his > parents. Here is what I have and I hope it helps everyone. > > Mary Jane Taulbee > b.3 Dec 1866 in Breathitt Co., > KY (I believe this is > an error. It should be 1879. Her age is 66 at the time > of death. If you figure it out from her death date and age > at death the year should be 1879. Just passing on what is > actually on the certificate.) > d.21 Dec 1945 in Menifee Co., KY Buried: Back Cemetery Mariba, KY > m. William Wagers in KY (I don't have a date) (source - family) > William Wagers b. 8 Jan 1879 Magoffin Co., KY (s. death certificate) > d. 26 Jun 1947 Fayette Co., KY (s. death certificate) Buried: Back Cem. > CHILDREN > 1. Bertha Wagers b.1903 Menifee Co., KY > d.1925 Middletown, OH Buried: Woodlawn Cem. Middletown OH > m.1st Harvey Blankenship 5 Mar 1918 Menifee Co., KY > b. ? d. ? > They have a son who is still living so I will not be > able to enclude him and his family. > m. 2nd James Nicely c. 1922 > b. ? d. ? > Bertha & James had 1 daughter: > Mary Rose Nicely b. 1925 d. 1925 > 2. Rose Wagers > b. 6 Mar 1906 in KY > d. 11 Aug 1947 in Fayette Co., KY > Buried: Back Cemetery, Mariba, KY > m. James Nicely nfi > Rose & James had 3 children that I am not able > to enclude any info on. > 3. Coy Wagers > b. c.1910 in KY (from census) > 4. Mary Wagers > b. 21 Sep 1913 in KY > d. ? Buried: Fortune Cemetery - Mt. Sterling, KY > Mary married twice and I have no info on her husbands. > No children that I am aware of. > 5. Irene Wagers > b. c.1915 in KY > Irene is still living as far as I know. She has 3 > children. I have included her only because she is on > the 1920 census. > 6. A son. He is not on the census so I will leave his name off. > He has 3 children. > [ALL THE ABOVE INFO WAS GIVEN TO ME BY THE SON OF BERTHA WAGERS. I > STATED WHEN THERE WAS A DIFFERENT SOURCE.] > > Lula Taulbee > b. 1881 or 1886 in Simpson, KY > d. Dec. 1930 in KY > My uncle swares she died in 1930 and was 49 years old. > That would make her born in 1881. However, on the 1910 > and 1920 census when I figure her birth year it would be > 1886. For now, till I know more, I will leave it up to > you. > m. Able Wagers (brother of William above) c. 1900 > b. c. 1878 nfi > Lula and Able were divorced. I have never been able to > find them in the census as of yet. Lula shows up in > 1910 with her second husband. > CHILD OF LULA & ABLE > 1. Adam Bernie Wagers (have been told he was a twin but the other > baby didn't survive.) > b. 23 Apr 1903 in Jackson, KY > d. 22 Dec 1939 in Oakland Co., MI Buried: in KY > m. Josie Bell Brewer 16 Nov 1921 Hollansville, KY > b. 16 Oct 1903 Wolfe Co., KY > d. 25 Jan 1987 Deland, FL Buried: Oakdale Cem. Deland, FL > Adam and Josie and 2 children. The first one is living so I > will withhold that info. There are 2 children and 5 > grandchild from the first child. > The second child was my mother. > Martha Lou Wagers > b. 24 Jun 1924 in Jackson, KY (birth certificate) > d. 16 Jul 1988 in Wayne Co., MI (death certificate) > Buried: Cadillac Memorial Gardens-Westland, MI > m. 1st Reeves Stilson Smith on 24 Jun 1942 Oakland Co.MI > b. 4 Oct 1913 Clayville, VR > d. 22 Apr 1983 Grand Rapids, MI Buried: Stockbridge, MI > They were divorced in 1951. > There are 2 children from this marriage. One is myself > and the other is my sister who I am not able to give out > info on. She is married and has 2 children. I am > married and have 3 children. > m. 2nd Peter Paul Rimshas 10 Oct 1953 Wayne Co., MI > b. 24 Apr 1914 Westville, IL (birth certificate) > d. 26 Jan 1991 Wayne Co., MI Buried: Cadillac Memorial > Gardens in Westland, MI (death certificate) > There are two children from this marriage and 4 > grandchildren. One child is living so I will > withhold that info. The other one is listed below. > William Robert Rimshas > b. 6 Dec 1956 in Wayne Co., MI (birth certificate) > d. 1 May 1987 in Ft. Worth, TX (death certificate) > He was married and had 2 children. > Second husband of Lula Taulbee > Mathew Banks c. 1908 in KY > b. c.1868 in KY > d. c.1949 in KY > Lula and Mathew had 1 child. However, on the 1910 and 1920 > census Lula's first son, Adam, is listed with them and his > last name is not listed as Wagers. Looking at it you would > think that Adam is Adam Banks, but it is Adam Wagers. There > was only the one child from this marriage but Lula and Mathew > did raise a child by the name of Marie. I knew Marie all my > life and she was a wonderful person. Family was often talked > about but no one ever said for sure if Marie had ever been > adopted or just raised with Lula & Mathew. > Child of Lula and Mathew > Hannah Banks > b. 23 Aug 1910 in Frankfort, KY > d. 12 Oct 1994 in Farmington Hills, MI Buried: Oakland > Hills Cemetery - Novi, MI > m. Calvin Honchel 29 Apr 1925 in KY > b. 23 Feb 1902 in KY > d. 27 Aug 1974 in Detroit, MI Buried: Oakland Hills > Cemetery - Novi, MI > There were 6 children from this marriage. Three are > still living. I will withhold their info. The 3 > below are no longer living. > Orval Honchel > b. 27 Apr 1930 in Breathitt Co., KY > d. 26 Nov 1967 in Detroit, MI > He was married and they have 2 children. > Oliver Lee Honchel > b. 18 Dec 1934 in Breathitt, Co., KY > d. 8 Feb 1984 in Memphis, TN > He was married. > Douglas Ray Honchel > b. 3 Oct 1949 in Detroit, MI > d. 19 Feb 1978 in Detroit, MI > He was married and had 3 children. > The information on Lula's side, unless otherwise stated, has been told > to me by the family. March 13 Subject: Taulbee - Centers Marriage Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:06:56 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:16:19 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com >From Breathitt County Marriages as published by the Breathitt County Historical Society: Geo. W. Taulbee (1) s/o John Taulbee and Eliza King Emma Centers (2) 19, d/o Lyda centers and Henry Higiright? Oct. 11. 1901 >From Rose Taulbee: GEORGE W. TAULBEE son John W.,John,Samuel,Wm.H.,Samuel Born 10-1881 Married 10-11-1901 Br. Co., Ky Died 1-27-1929 EMMA HIGNITE CENTERS Born ca 1881 Died 1956 Children Millard md Mallie Taulbee,dauWm.P.,Silas,WmA,Sam'l,WmH,Sam'l(cousins) Arizona md Colburn Back Arlana md Edison Dykes have info that George murdered Okla md Hettie Crase Burnam Walters, don't know why Banka md ? Crase (divorced) or when. Grace md Arpha Crase Cora md Arlie McClure Ruth Clara md James Bailey Questions: 1. Correct name of Emma's father. 2. Who was Emma's first husband? 3. Any children from the first marriage? Subject: John Dial Taulbee & Ratliff Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:35:13 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:48:30 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list Told the person who sent me this that I would put the question to you. At least some of you are in this line so if you have any information, let him and the rest of us know: Do. you hnow the parents of Johns wife Phebe Ratliff. If you have any information on Phebe please e-mail me at SWALNUT934@AOL.COM. Thanks for your home page.it has so much information in it and layed out so nice. Keep up the good work. Larry Ratliff Subject: TOLBY, Nancy, Dubois County, IN 1820 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:35:20 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:26:03 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list I am still trying to identify the husband, and names of children of Nancy Tolby who appears on the 1820 Federal Census for Indiana as: Nancy Tolby Dubois County White males under 10: 2 White males 16-24: 1 White females under 10: 2 White females 10 - 15: 2 White females 26-44: 1 This is the earliest mention of this surname I have found in Indiana. The surname is not on the 1807 Terrirorial census. Samuel Taulbee and 7 of his sons are said to gone to Indiana from North Carolina and Kentucky about this time. Some, including a Nancy Tolby, are found on the 1860 census for Tippecanoe and Hendricks counties with the surname TOLBY. Subject: John C. Taulbee & Nancy Hill and daughter Cynthia Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:54:52 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:07:55 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list Several of us share this set of 3rd, 4th, or 5th great grandparents. Having a problem with the info in Rose's book. The following is from page 95 of Rose Taulbee's Taulbee Family History: John Taulbee's family ? GULLETT?? T.J. PENNY JOHN FLINCHEM Born Born Born 1814 Md. 1st Md. 2nd 3-23-1866 Md. 3rd 9-11-1883 Magoffin Co., Ky Died Died (divorced) Died CYTHA TAULBEE dau John,Samuel,Wm.H.,Samuel Born 5-1839 Children Thomas A. - Gehaza - Avery J. 3-31-1861, (girl) no info on Avery 1860 Census Mafoffin County: TALBEE, Cynthia, age 21, H301 HOWARD, Benjamin, age 18, with Cynthia Talbee, H301 TAULBEE, John, age 57, with wife Nancy, H271 [Magoffin Historical Society: On line at http://members.xoom.com/Magoffin/home/test.htm] 1870 Census Magoffin County: John Tolby 74 born NC Nancy E. 67 Cyntha 31 Lorrabell 6 Catherine 12 [Taulbee Pages and Taulbee List Archives, August, 1997] >From Page 91 of Rose's book: This family is someting of a puzzle. We can't pinpoint Nancy's age, having to rely on census records and they did not help. 1850, she was 44, 1860, she was 50, 1870, she was 67, and 1880, she was 73, which is the only one that agrees with 1850. 1850 they had Eliza Patrick with them, she was there thru 1870 and listed as a servant. 1860 Easter Catherine appears and 1870 Lorrabelle is added and 1880 Cordelia Hughes is there, however she married John C.B. Taulbee son Wm. Lee. Also on 1860 census a Susan age 28 and listed as a weaver, is with this family. On the 1830 census of Perry Co., Ky. John is listed with 2 females to 5 and 1 to 10. Have found a Rebecca and a Sylvania that must be his. The female to 10 is Temperance Hill. Mainly the problem is the first marriage of Cyntha/Cynthia to (-?-) Gullett and her presence with Benjamin Howard in household 301. These are the only surnames listed in this transcription which is a head of household transcription showing the head of household and other surnames, but not others of the same surname. In 1860 she is living with Benjamin. So what is going on? In 1870 she is living with her parents again, but where are the children? This would be after the failure of her second marriage. Was there ever a marriage with a Gullett? Subject: cemetaries.... Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:35:42 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:44:37 EST From: Cynful63 To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com, kybreath-l@rootsweb.com Help please.... I will be making a trip back to KY here in a few weeks and while I am there I will be searching for my Great Grandmothers gravesite. If anyone has a list of the Cemetaries located in Breathitt County, would you be so kind to send there names and locations to me. This will be somewhat of a challenge as we are not sure which cemetary she is buried in but we are almost sure she is buried in a cemetary in Breathitt County. Although I am told she is buried in a cemetary called "Taulbee Cemetary". Her birth name was Peggy Taulbee aka Maggie Taulbee but she may also be buried under the last name of Banks and died approximately 1925 or 1926. Thank you, Cyndy Taulbee-Ellis Cynful63@aol.com Subject: Taulbee in Arkansas Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:47:26 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:54:00 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com We hav seen occational references to Taulbee in Arkansas. Do not know if these are part of the line, but the variation has been used for Taulbee in other records. These are the Arkansas Federal Land Records prior to 1908. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ar/fedland.htm Some of the other prominant surnames in the various lines show up in numbers, but don't know if they connect. Clark County TOBEY WILLIAM R 17 8S 20W 40 1889/06/24 Pope County TOBEY CHARLES E 33 7N 20W 40.36 1855/03/01 TOBEY CHARLES E 35 7N 20W 40 1860/05/01 TOBY MARY L 21 7N 18W 80 1885/01/20 RACHAEL MAY AND L H TALKINGTON ORPHAN CHILDREN OF ISAAC W TALKINGTON Subject: Taulbee in 1830 Perry county, KY Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:44:07 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:43:14 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com Just started to work on Nancy Taulbee and Adam Birchfield's page. Last August Cousin Louise posted two pages of the 1830 Perry County Census. This is an extract of the Taulbees on that census. Thought you might like to see just how many of of the brothers were there at that time: John TALBY 0000100000000-2100100000000 William TALBY SR. 1100100000100-20001000000000 William TALBY JR. 1120010000000-1211001000000 Adam BIRCHFIELD 0001010000000-0110001000000* *This documents the great age difference between Adam and Nancy Taulbee. Thomas TALBY 2001010000000-0100100000000 The Age groupings: 0-5 5-10 10-15 15-20 20-30 30-40 40-50 50-60 60-70 70-80 80-90 90-100 100+ The two census pages are found in our August public archives on the Taulbee Pages. Subject: John Birchfield and Elizabeth Hendrick, 1700s, NC Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:43:53 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:35:27 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: Taulbee-l@rootsweb.com See Taulbee Public Archives, September 23, 1997 on the Taulbee Pages. This will add a bit to Rose's book. Rose gives John Birchfield as the probable father of Adam. In the referenced post, John Birchfield and Elizabeth Hendrick are given as the parents of Adam Birchfield, who married Nancy Taulbee, and of his sister (Rebecca) Elizabeth Birchfield who married Nancy's older brother, Samuel. This is given as source material for a possible addition to Rose's information. If anyone has a copy of the book "The Land of Breathitt", would they please check the accuracy of the quote from it on Nancy Taulbee's page http://www.doitnow.com/~moravia/nvtaul1.html which was included in that post? (that is a lower case L followed by the #1 in the URL) Subject: Query Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:34:28 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:13:19 EST From: McPixie To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com Hi Guys, I'm sending this to the list for as many suggestions as I can gather. I now have a 2nd family, Daniels, who wants to start compiling information into one set so that we can all help each other. It is in the very beginning stages and right now no one really knows who is related to whom, etc, etc, etc. The query is this. Does anyone have any idea what would be the best way to start putting this information together? Thanks for any ideas you may have. Deb Lundquist Subject: Query Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:06:17 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:15:31 EST From: McPixie To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com Thanks guys! I knew I could depend on you! Later, Deb Subject: Book Correction URL Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:51:40 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:05:27 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list I have just created and placed on line a page to accept the corrections and additions to Rose's book. http://www.doitnow.com/correct.html This is part of our public pages and is also accessible via the Taulbee Page link. I want it to contain only valid documented data. Please send to the list just one page number and individual family per post and make it clear it is a correction or addition to Rose's book. Please include the documentation, either a paper source or a reliable family source. I do not have time to search the archives for posts that provide the corrections and additions, so even if you have already sent them, and even if I have posted them to one of our pages, If you believe they belong on this page, post them again to the list clearly marked as an addition or a correction, or an annotation. As these grow, maybe some of you will have ideas of where to go from here. Since Rose included living individuals, I am not going to say not to, but I would suggest that you either make sure they are individuals who are not going to object, or do what I have done on my pages and indicate that the information can be requested. Talk to you later Subject: Rose's Bk, corection to pg 180 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:04:17 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:17:41 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com Page 180: ref to Cynthia Jane Sapp says she was born in 1842. However the 1850 Fayette Co IL census for Eli Sapp says she is 12 years old, making her year of birth abt 1838. (and her age at marriage 20 rather than 16) >From a private email I received. March 20 Subject: Birchfield query Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:37:28 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:07:30 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com This is obviously meant for the list: Subject: Re: Rose Taulbee Book Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:28:14 EST From: JCR146 To: moravia@doitnow.com Does anyone have info on a William Birchfield b1843 from England married Elizabeth Wages b1848 Morgan Co., KY both were married in Breathitt Co., KY. I sure would like info on them if I could get it. Thanks John Ramey -- Robert L. George ------ Surprise, Arizona The Crooked Tree; The Taulbee Pages; The Census On Line; List Manager, TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com http://www.doitnow.com/~moravia/index.html On line data base plus sixty years of poetry. Researching Bailey, Birchfield, Brady, Brown, Childers/Childress, Dressback, Dunn, George, Taulbee/ Tolby, and related families. Subject: Typo Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:32:17 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:43:21 -0500 From: hgask10543@juno.com To: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com To those who downloaded the zipped version of the Rose Taulbee Book: There is a typo on page 29, Samuel Elsberry Taulbee, and his 2nd marriage to Susan Hays, under Children it should read, Children of 2nd marriage. Robert has corrected the book that is in segments. Louise Subject: Taulbee - Rose's book 17. Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:05:02 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:18:33 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list This concerns the Hendricks county Indiana marriage of William Talbee to Margaret Bowman posted by Louise on March 5. Page 17 of Rose's book "....Zephaniah did not marry or we just haven't found the record, but we have a Wm. Tolby who married Hendricks Co., IN to Margaret Bowman 8-2-1832. This Wm. was probably born ca 1814 or so and at that time every one who could have a son named Wm. already did have, so we just gave him to Zephaniah. At the sale of the household goods after Samuel's death, Zephaniah bot most everything. We have not found him or son Wm. since the 1840 census." This is the kind of statement which makes one lose confidence in Rose's book. Fortunately she did not do this very often. According to Bob Hedgcock in Marylanders to Carolina by Henry C. Peden, Jr., pg 183, Zephaniah married Mary Wolling. I have also seen this written Wollen. I also have that Zephaniah later married Abbey (-?-) Children of Zephaniah and possibly Abbey: Elizabeth Talbee was born in 1771. There were two other males children under 16 in the household according to the 1790 Harford County, Maryland census. I am going to have to dig out the reference for Abbey and Elizabeth. I will post it when I find it. I have serious doubts we can place William as a son of Zephaniah. The time line is all wrong. A grandson is more likely, but He could also be a son of a brother of William Hitchcock. We just don't have any real information on them. March 21 Subject: Taulbee Family Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 06:04:24 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:14:22 -0500 From: Barbara Monroe To: Taulbee-L@rootsweb.com Hi, My name is Barbara my line is as follows Samuel Tolby-Elizabeth Hitchcock W. H. Taulbee-Margaret Canady Polly Taulbee-Peter Tolson Sally Tolson-Caleb Roberts Nannie Belle Roberts-Hardin Caudell Mary Ellen Caudell-Wes Bailey Bonnie Bell Bailey-David Barnes Barbara Barnes You have all done a great job. I would really like to hear from anyone from the Tolson line or any other relatives of Sally. Just for the record I thought you might like to know her full name. It was Sally Ann Elizabeth Jane Malidy Drewzily Mathiaphiadi Tolson Spencer Roberts. (I'm not sure of the spelling of those odd names) My mother and her sister used to skip rope while saying their gr-grandmother's name. Keep up the good work. Barbara Subject: Taulbee-tolson Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 16:47:38 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:23:33 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com Barbara's post of her line today demonstrates that there are problems with Rose's book as to the Tolson line. Barbara posted her line as: Samuel Tolby-Elizabeth Hitchcock W. H. Taulbee-Margaret Canady Polly Taulbee-Peter Tolson Sally Tolson-Caleb Roberts Nannie Belle Roberts-Hardin Caudell Mary Ellen Caudell-Wes Bailey Bonnie Bell Bailey-David Barnes Barbara Barnes and gave us the information about Sally's long name. I cannot match this with Rose's book. Rose said she got no help from the Tolsons, so maybe Barbara will be our redeeming angel and help us straighten all this out. Barbara, the file you want is the last one listed on the closed page. (Polly). Use the function for Peter and for Roberts and you will see that we will need your help straigntening this out, say about page 340. Any help you can give us will be appreciated. These kind of problems are why we have placed Rose's book on a closed page rather than on an open page where everyone might take errors at face value. -- Subject: Stephen Talbee Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:21:14 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 01:31:04 -0500 From: AMT To: "'taulbee-l@rootsweb.com'" Hi all. Happened to come across this. >From a new Ancestry (www.ancestry.com) database "Rhode Island Pensioners of 1835" page 813 County: Bristol Co. Name: Stephen Talbee Rank: Private of artillery Annual Allowance: 65 81 Sums Received: 197 43 Description of service: Rhode Island militia When placed on the pension roll: September 18, 1833 Commencement of pension: March 4, 1831 Age: 78 Bibliography: United States Senate. Report from the Secretary of War, in Obedience to Resolutions of the Senate of the 5th and 30th of June, 1834, and the 3d of March, 1835, In Relation to the Pension Establishment of the United States. [Rhode Island Section], Washington, D.C.: Duff Green, 1835. March 22 Subject: Page 103 Rose's Book, Ira, Hiram, George W. Taulbee Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:26:34 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:40:52 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list I have received email on the part of a woman in Oregon who has no computer but has information on the line that goes from Samuel > Ira > Hiram > to George W. Taulbee and so on. First info adds to page 103 of Rose's book. George W. Taulbee's wife is listed by Rose as Minnie M. The full name is Minnie Mae Hull. I will be corresponding with this individual. If there is anyone interested in this particular line, let me know and I will put in contact with the individual after she responds to my letter. March 23 Subject: another typo Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 05:36:35 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:49:14 -0500 From: hgask10543@juno.com To: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com There is an omission on page 284 of our transcribed Taulbee book: Under Scott Taulbee & Julia Spencer's children, the child is Clayton, his birth is there, but his name was omitted Louise Subject: Taulbee - Tolson Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:20:55 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:30:30 EST From: JRoenicksr To: Taulbee-L@rootsweb.com Hello, Our names are Jim and Rita Tolson Roenick. We have been on the list for some time now but always in the background. Rita never knew her lineage back any further that her grandfather George W. Tolson and grandmother Mollie Hollon. Rita's mother, Beatrice D. Lester, never knew her parents and was raised by foster parents in Wolfe Co., Ky. We have come a long way in finding Rita's roots over the past year. We would like to post Rita's Taulbee - Tolson line. Edward Talbee - Mary Samuel Talbee - Elizabeth Hitchcock Wm. H. Taulbee - Margaret Canady Mary (Polly) Ann Taulbee - Peter Tolson Thomas Tolson - Rebecca Caudell/Caudle James M. Tolson - Margaret Gullett George W. Tolson - Mollie Hollon Rainey Lee Tolson - Beatrice D. Lester Rita Fay Tolson - James A. Roenick, Sr. Thank you all for all the work that you have put in. It has been a great help to us. Keep up the good work. We would love to hear from anyone that is in the Taulbee - Tolson lineage. Thanks again. Jim and Rita Tolson Roenick Subject: Taulbee - Tolson & J. D. Taulbee Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:12:25 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:26:50 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com Thank you, Jim and Rita for your post, and Thank you Barbara for yours. Maybe you two Tolson descendants (Rita and Barbara) can get together and do something Rose could not do, confirm that the Thomas Tolson of Floyd County is the father of Peter Tolson, husband of Polly Taulbee. Rose said most of her information came from the census and some other records and that she got no help from the Tolson descendants. Now you two can change that and we can expand Polly's section of Rose's book so that it is more than a handful of pages. Rose mentioned a letter by John Dial Taulbee on which she has based some of her information on. We desperately need to find that letter and I hope that her brother did not throw out the only copy. I know that Nadine is working very hard in Texas trying to run this and other John Dial sources down. I already posted that there are problems getting Rose's book to agree with what Barbara posted. I am inclined to believe that Barbara has better information. Rita, if you are basing part of your line on what is in Rose's book, we need to verify it. Most of Rose's book is very good, some errors like all books, but I think we need to be extra cautious with this last chapter. If you have information to confirm what is in Rose's book, could you share it so we can raise our (or at least my) level of confidence in this last chapter? Would appreciate if anyone who has any would post documentation for this chapter. Rita, one more thing you might do (if you have not done so) is go to our obit page at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~usgwqury/Ky/TaulbeeObits/index.cgi and do a national search for TOLSON. What you will get are the 20 or so obits containing TOLSON, but you will also get all the queries by indiviuals researching TOLSON and the responses. There is no TOLSON mail list, at least not on rootsweb, so that is the next best thing. Some of our cousins have already been making good use of it. The rest of you can do the same for any surname. This is going to develop into an important resource as it catches on. Talk to you all later. Subject: Rose's bk. Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:33:10 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:43:01 EST From: Kjaia To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com (taulbee list) The following are corrections on pg. 195 and additions on pg. 195. Mary Jane COCKRAN - not Cockerham - (correction) Source "The Chronicle of a Southern Family, The Sebastians" by William Hobart Sebastian. If any of you have other documentation, please contact me. Thank you. Born May 7, 1852 (book source) (correction) Died October 1, 1905 (book source)(addition) md. (JAMES) CALL(A)WAY SEBASTIAN (book source) (correction) born June 21, 1850 (death cert) (correction) died June 6, 1914 (death cert) (addition) Children: JAMES TAYLOR SEBASTIAN Born June (8), 187(6) Cannel City, Ky (family & obit) (correction) Died Aug. 11, 1935 Paintsville, Ky (death cert. & obit) (addition) md. CALAH CATHERINE WELLS Born March (14) 1882 Cannel City, Ky (cert of death) (correction) Died June 5, 1956 Lexington, Kentucky (death cert) (addition) Children: (my parents) (all additions) MAUDE SEBASTIAN STUTLER Born June 7, 1905 Cannel City, Kentucky Died May 7, 1981 md WALTER CLIFFORD STUTLER September 11, 1925 Born Nov. 6, 1902 St. Marys, West Virginia Died August 17, 1973 Children: Shirley Stutler DuFrene (all additions) md. LeRoy DuFrene (all additions) Inez Sebastian d/o James Taylor Sebastian & Calla Catherine Wells Sebastian md. Homer Lee Roberts children: Nancy Lenore Roberts Albert Carl Sebastian s/o James Taylor Sebastian & Calla Catherine Wells Sebastian md. Carolee Briscoe (children) Morris Eugene Sebastian - died July 26, 1948 (family) William Price Sebastian Shirley Stutler DuFrene ubject: taulbee obit query Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:38:01 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:51:34 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list I told you I would forward any queries about the postings to the Taulbee Obituary searchable data base. Here is one: A new message, "Re: GRANVILLE PEARL CAMPBELL,DEVANEY," was posted on the Taulbee Obituaries < http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~usgwqury/Ky/TaulbeeObits/index.cgi> by Don W. Allen on Wed, 25 Mar 1998 It is a response to "GRANVILLE PEARL CAMPBELL,DEVANEY," on Sun, 22 Mar 1998 The message reads as follows: ------------------------- My G-G-Grandfather was William PEARL. He was born in Laurel County, Kentucky. He had a brother named Granville PEARL. Could the Granville of this obit be related to my Granville? ------------------------- This is an automatically-generated notice. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the Taulbee Obituaries at . Thank you! CAMPBELL, GRANVILLE PEARL, 98, of Jackson, Ky d. Feb. 12, 1990 b. June 9, 1891 s/o the late Mahalia and Lewis CAMPBELL md. Sally Ann 1 daughter, Helen DEVANEY, Rockwood, TN 4 sons, Bill CAMPBELL, Phoenix, AZ Holbert CAMPBELL and Joe CAMPBELL, both of Dayton, OH Charles CAMPBELL, West Carrolton, OH 14 grandchildren 7 great grandchildren Burial in the Campbell Cem. (The Jackson Times) March 26, 1998 Subject: census recovery Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:28:33 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:43:11 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list Need someone using Windows 95 and the appropriate version of netscape or other listed browser to download the free utility at http://www.alexa.com/tour/index.html and see if they can recover the 10 lost census documents from Michigan listed on my census website. These census were lost when the page owner passed away and the ISP took them down. The utility sends you to a website which has archived several terabytes of webpages so you can find the most recent whenever one goes down, moves, or dissapears. These census documents may or may not be there. I am asking you because I am still using Win 3.1 and will not upgrade until 98 comes out and I junk this slow 100mhz Compaq. Seems strange to call 100nhz slow when it seemed so fast two years ago., but has other problems I don't wish to deal with. Anyway, if someone will download that utility, we can try to find missing data when it gets moved. Merci. Subject: taulbee obit query Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:03:44 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:18:13 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list This might give one or more of you a distant connection. It is a response to one of Carole's obits posted on the TaulbeeObit page. Posted by Betty Ann (Trent) Cunningham on Thu, 26 Mar 1998, in response to ALEX BOYD TRENT, TRYA, BANKS, POWELL, posted on Thu, 12 Mar 1998, at 4:54 p.m. That's my grandfather Brother. Alex has two brothers Raleight C. Trent bornJuly 26,1893 and died Aug.10,1953. Raleigh is my grandfather and Sherman S. Trent is the other brother.There dad is James C. Trent and mom is Jane ? a Indian I can"t fine. the original post: TRENT, ALEX BOYD, 75 d. Campton, June 21,1964, a native of Breathitt County had lived in Wolfe since he was a young man s/o the late James Trent 4 sons, Luther Trent, North Judson, Arnold Trent, Middletown, OH Orville Trent, Elkhart, IN, and Galloway Trent also of Elkhart 3 daughters, Mrs. Ruth Tyra of Campton, Mrs. Myrtle Banks of Elkhart, IN and Mrs. Jane Powell of Chicago 6 half brothers, Walter Trent and Logan Trent, both of Dayton, OH George Trent of Richmond, IN; James Trent of Dayton, OH, J.B. Trent and Alvin Ray Trent both of Richmond, IN 2 sisters, Mrs. Imogene Trent, Dayton, OH and Miss Eulah Jean Trent of Dayton, OH 32 grandchildren and 14 great grandchildren Buried Evans Cem., Porter & Son Funeral Home March 29 Subject: Taulbee Notes Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:46:36 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:00:43 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list Hi All! First on a personal note, my daughter has INFORMED me that she is getting married, to a HATFIELD of all things. Hope the lone MCCOY in the tree will forgive her. That's what I get for letting her go to college. They met at Carlton College in Northfield MN and then were together at the Ole Miss Graduate School. Next, For those who may have forgotten, and the new subscribers, Archived messages are not available thru rootsweb. They are only available on the Taulbee Pages. I made this decision before I started the list. It was the only way to keep some of our posts confidential, for example there is no point in having a closed page if when I send you the URL, it gets stuck in public archives. Also, keeping our own archives is the only way to delete posts with errors in them at a later date. That means that you need to go to the Taulbee Pages and find the archives link and click on the month. You will open a text document you can download if you wish, or just use the browser function. It means there are no archived digests, so you need to search the dates you are missing. I did not subscribe myself to the archives until this week when one of you posted that you needed it. I will have them from now on. The Archives may be a week or so behind, but never more. Next, I have added a few hundred links to out census on line section of the Taulbee pages, bringing the total number of on line census type documents we have links to to over 1500, but still less than 2,000. I am giving up trying to keep track of how many their are. There has been precious few Taulbees in these documents, but I hope some of you will use them to try to find the other surnames in our large family. Last, keep sending all documentation and corrections, additions, to Rose's book. I got another email from Bettie Jimenez, the researcher who first found the Samuel Talbee - Elizabeth Hitchcock connection in Maryland, saying we are doing a fine job. So let's keep her thinking so. March 30 Subject: Taulbee/Tolson Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:18:42 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:43:48 -0500 From: Barbara Monroe To: taulbee-L@rootsweb.com Re Roberts post of March 21, 1998 on the family of Sally Tolson, daughter of Peter Tolson and Polly Taulbee (daughter of William H.) I realize that my post of my family does not tie in with Rose's book. Of course, Rose did not have any help from the Tolson's as she stated, and therefore could only work with what she could find. She has done a fine job. I believe that I am correct in stating that the daughter of Peter Tolson and Polly was named Sally and not Sarah. She is, however listed in the census as Sarah. I believe the reason for this was that she could not read or write and neither could her husband. Sally was a nickname for Sarah and I believe the census taker just assumed her name was Sally. (My sister Patti has the same problem, she is not Patricia). In the 1910 census, when she is living with her son Joseph, who could read and write, the name was listed as Sally. Also on her death certificate on file in Frankfort # 28195 she is listed as Sally. (Information supplied by her son Morgan Spencer) She also named herself Sally (Morgan Spencer was with her at the time) when she applied for a confederate pension for the service of her husband, Caleb Roberts. In her book on the Spencer family Irene Spencer (Sally's grandaughter) and others referred to their grandmother as Sally and Irene told me she also had heard her name listed as I had posted earlier. I think that her name really was Sally. As for her daughter Nannie Belle. I don't really know how she fell through the cracks of the Census, but she did. She does not appear until 1900 when she is married to her husband Hardin Caudell. I have no explanation for this. I can tell you that my mother was well aquainted with her grandmother's family and knew her Uncle Joseph Roberts and Robert E. Lee Roberts (Those listed in Rose's book). Also on the confederate pension application Sally lists her living children and names Nannie Caudell. I think I have a source for the John Dial letter. A Taulbee cousin has informed me that she has a copy of the letter. She helped Rose with some of her research. I have asked her to send it on to me and as soon as she does, I will post it. One more note, congrations to the new Father of the Bride!!! Barbara Talk to you all later. -- ubject: taulbee Deaths Pre 1937 Ohio Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:00:36 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:15:50 -0800 From: moravia@doitnow.com Organization: doitnow.com To: taulbee list I have not tried to find these in Rose's Book. These are the Taulbee that come up in a statewide search of the Ohio Searchable Death Certificate Database. TAULBEE, LENNIS County Name: HAMILTON Date of Death: 5/10/1937 Volume Number: 8468 Certificate Number: 32421 TAULBEE SAMUEL E County Name: BUTLER Date of Death: // Volume Number: 180 Certificate Number: 20064 TOLBY MARY A County Name: MAHONING Date of Death: 10/12/1914 Volume Number: 1482 Certificate Number: 56683 http://www.ohiohistory.org/dindex/search.cfm Subject: Wolfe Co KY Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:28:32 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: TAULBEE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:39:15 EST From: MARYHERZOG To: taulbee-l@rootsweb.com I spent all day today looking at microfilm; I'm exhausted! First, I found Polly Taulbee Tolson listed in the household of her son, Thomas Tolson, in the 1880 Wolfe Co KY census. Her age is given as 83 and she is widowed. Second, I found a goldmine in the FHL film #2055132, Hazel Green Herald Newspaper, Wolfe Co Ky index 1895-1917. There are dozens of references to Taulbees and best of all, the newspapers are all filmed also. By looking at the index, one can determine which films of the newspapers to order so that the entire article can be read. Kentucky must have been a pretty violent place; the index is full of accounts of shootings and other untimely deaths at the hands of others.