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The SPENS/SPENCE DNA SURNAME PROJECT

Family Tree DNA project Created December 2004

For info email Group Administrator: SPENCETOP at aol.com( use @ for at)

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Note that markers 385A, 385B and 439 shown in red are known to mutate faster than the other 9. One step mutations in these 3 markers can occur and should not be considered proof of being unrelated. Expanding the marker tests to 25 or 37 markers should help prove relatedness in cases where the mutations are all in a red marker. Scientists are unsure how fast these 3 markers mutate as it appears to be different in various families. This webpage reports 12 markers only. For more indepth marker results for the Spence Surname Project, see the FTDNA webpage link at the bottom of page. We also are inviting all interested Spence males to participate! See the project link at the bottom of this page to join the Spence surname project. 

 

We need every Spence line to PARTICIPATE IN THIS DNA PROJECT! IF YOU SEE YOUR ANCESTOR LISTED with SAMPLES NEEDED, and you are a male with the surname SPENCE/SPENS/SPENSE inherited from your father's male Spence ancestors, PLEASE CONSIDER JOINING OUR EFFORTS IN THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT HELPS ALL OF US.

For general information on dna and surname projects, visit the webpages of Family Tree DNA at

www. Familytreedna.com

FAMILY GROUP ONE- another sample is needed in this line......

UNITED KINGDOM-

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UK

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The branch above is United Kingdom and William Spence born 1475, died bef. 1575. The haplogroup is R1a, known as the Celtic group. We also need more genealogy data on William Spence. From the davidkfaux.org- Scottish Orkney - Celtic / Pictish;   The name Spence is frequently found in Scotland from the 13th Century.  The earliest reference in the Shetland Islands is to Williams Spens, to whom Sir David Sinclair left land in Gloup, North Yell, in 1506; Henry SPENCE, of Houlland, North Yell, son the above William SPENCE of Gloup; For more information see >http://www.davidkfaux.org/shetlandislandsY-DNA3

 FAMILY GROUP TWO -more samples needed!

UNITED KINGDOM- HENRY DE SPENS, DIED CIRCA 1300-AND ANDREW SPENCE, B. 1735 in IRELAND, DIED NEWBERRY, S.C, U.S.A.

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DS

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WKS

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These 2 participants match 24 out of 25 markers. D.S. of the U.K., is well documented to his ancestor Henry deSpens who died circa 1300. Haplogroup is I. See Clan Spens at http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/stoz/spens2.html- WKS descends from Andrew Spence, b. circa 1735, in Ireland, migrated to South Carolina, U.S.A. in 1772 and died in Newberry, S.C.

 FAMILY GROUP THREE-

STEPHEN SPENCE,- b. abt 1800, married MARTHA HOOPER in Wilkes Co, North Carolina

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WJS

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The above Spence branch resided in Iredell & Wilkes Co., NC 1800-1820, then migrated to Tennessee. The haplogroup I1A is a subgroup of the "I" haplogroup, known as the Viking group. Samples are needed from other families in this area for comparision.

 

FAMILY GROUP FOUR-

COASTAL NORTH CAROLINA-

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KS

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The above person traces to Washington Co, NC, formed 1799 from Tyrrell Co, formed 1729 from Pasquotank, Chowan, Bertie & Carrituck Counties. The Haplogroup is judged to be E3A, but a standard haplogroup test needs to be performed to verify that. The families of old Pasquotank are thought to be descended from David Spence of Somerset, Maryland.

 FAMILY GROUP FIVE-samples needed!

DAVID SPENS/SPENCE, -DIED 1679, SOMERSET, MARYLAND-

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David Spens believed to have been born 1639 in Dysart, County of Fife, Scotland immigrated to America 1662-1663 and died 1679. Extensive records in Somerset County, Maryland. David is thought to be a cousin of Patrick of Westmoreland Co VA. At least 2 sons are documented to have migrated to Pasquotank Co., NC.

 FAMILY GROUP SIX-samples needed!

PATRICK SPENS/SPENCE- DIED 1683, WESTMORELAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA, wife DORCUS-

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Patrick Spens believed born 1634 in England, died 1683 Westmoreland County, Virginia, married 1657 Dorcas unknown.

It is believed that Patrick Spence is related to David Spens above and Patrick immigrated to America before David. On 27 May 1702, Dorcas Spence-Jordan, former widow of Patrick Spence, testified that "Lawrence Pope & JEMIMA his wife, WHO WAS THE RELICT OF HER SAID SON JOHN SPENCE" owed her money for Spence's funeral. (Dorman, W'moreland Deeds & Wills #3, 1701-1707)

 FAMILY GROUP SEVEN-MORE SAMPLES NEEDED

BURWELL SPENCE; b. 1763 Bedford Co Virginia, wife REBECCA PUCKETT, resided Carroll Co VA.

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CRS

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FGS

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JDS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DCS

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28

CRS is descended from Burwell's son Lewis, DCS from Burwell's son Drury, JDS from Burwell's son Isham, FGS from son John. The Haplogroup is R1b, the Celtic group, for CRS & FGS. DCS is I1A, a subgroup of Haplogroup I. Update: The testing was expanded to 25 markers for CRS and FGS and the results are that they match 23 out of 25 which makes them 99.9% related. The testing does not tell us who the common ancestor was for both men, but we believe at this point in time that is was Burwell.

FAMILY GROUP EIGHT-MORE SAMPLES NEEDED

DAVID SPENCE of Randolph, Ashe, Alleghany Co NC, died ca 1838 Ashe Co NC, wife ESTHER LAMBORD/LAMBERT.

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RAS

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SRS

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RAS and SRS are descended from David's son Malachi- who married ca 1828 in Randolph before moving to what became Ashe, Wilkes and Alleghany Co NC with his parents David & Ester about 1830. The Haplogroup is R1b, the Celtic group.

 FAMILY GROUP NINE-more samples needed!

 JAMES SPENCE, b. ca 1748, wife JANE BLUFORD, resided Augusta County, Virginia- and William Spence, born 1800 of Cumberland Co., NC

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 WS

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 WS descends from Bluford Thorpe Spence of GA, b. 1774 in VA. Haplogroup is R1b, the Celtic group. James & Jane had 2 other known sons, William who resided in Tazewell Co VA, and James who migrated to the French Broad River area of TN, and may be the ancestor of the TN families in that area. WILLIAM R. SPENCE, b. 1800 Cumberland Co, NC is an exact match on 12 markers, and may be a son or grandson. JRS descends from William Spence of Cumberland Co NC.

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JRS

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Haplogroup is R1b, the Celtic group. Participant believes that William R. Spence was a descendant of Isaac Spence & Elizabeth Bowden Spence of Duplin Co NC and possibly related to the Pasquotank Co NC families or Isle of Wight VA families. The 12/12 match could indicate that Isaac was a son of James & Jane Bluford Spence.

 FAMILY GROUP TEN-more samples needed!

JONATHAN SPENCE , b. 1808, wife ELIZABETH McCLAIN/McLean, resided Bath Co KY, d. Iowa

And JAMES THOMAS SPENCE B. 1867 BATH CO. KY

dna

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NLS 

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JHS

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TWS

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Jonathan's father is thought to be William Spence, b. abt 1778, GA or SC. The Haplogroup is "I". We need samples of other Spence families in the KY area for comparision. TWS descends from James Thomas Spence, b. 1867 in Bath Co KY and matches perfectly on 12 markers. James Thomas may have been the son of David & Maria Hagerman Spence.

 FAMILY GROUP ELEVEN-samples needed!

MOSES SPENCE, b 1761-1764 VA, resided in Georgia, wife Mary- served in the Revolution from Virginia.

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CWS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moses lived in Burke Co GA in 1782 near neighbors Tharpe and John Spence. Incel and Green Spence were also nearby. CWS descends from Joshua Spence who was born abt 1806 who is believed to be a son of Old Moses.

 

 FAMILY GROUP TWELVE-samples needed!

ALEXANDER SPENCE, b. 1822 Ashe Co NC, m. MELVINA JOHNSON, resided Wayne Co WV.-

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 FAMILY GROUP THIRTEEN-samples needed!

DAVID SPENCE, b. abt 1758, wife MARY ANN McELYEA, resided prior 1800 Surry Co NC, Davidson Co TN 1802-

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 Two sons resided in Union Co IL

 FAMILY GROUP FOURTEEN-samples needed!

JOHN SPENCE, b. abt 1770, resided Floyd/Grayson/Carroll Co VA, wife KEZIAH BOND.

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 John had son Issac who lived in Ohio. May have had son Henry J. Spence who disappeared in 1860 from Carroll Co VA. Possibly a son named Stephen who m. Sarah Woosley in Carroll Co. Keziah Bond was daughter of Stephen Bond. Also possible sons William and Joshua. 

FAMILY GROUP FIFTEEN-samples needed!

JOB SPENCE, b. abt 1813, married SARAH PUCKETT, in VA, resided KY-

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 Had sons Lenton Hale Spence, Arthur L. and Andrew. Lived in Johnson Co KY 1850.

FAMILY GROUP SIXTEEN-samples needed!

AMON SPENCE, b. abt 1799 VA, wife Mary, resided Lawrence Co KY-

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 Had sons Emanual, Johnson, John, Wallace, George, maybe Enoch. Lived in Floyd Co KY 1840, 1850 & Lawrence Co KY 1860. Emanual had sons Sherman, Amos, James & Wallace Bailey Spence.

FAMILY GROUP SEVENTEEN-samples needed!

JAMES SPENCE, b. abt 1766 VA, married in Bedford Co VA, ELEANOR MILAM-

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FAMILY GROUP EIGHTEEN-samples needed!

HUGH SPENCE, b. Donegal, Ireland 1801, resided Wythe Co VA, father said to be George, b. 1774 Ireland, s/o Hugh Spence, b. 1735 Donegal, Ireland

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FAMILY GROUP NINETEEN-more samples needed!

ISAAC SPENCE, b. abt 1785 in NC, d. 1871 GA

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 RS

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BGS 

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JMS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Isaac resided in Thomas Co., GA circa 1830, in the area now Grady County. Some researchers believe Isaac was son of Moses Spence born 1764, or related to the Duplin County NC Spence lines. Isaac had 5 sons Bluford, Tharpe S., Jackson, William and Isaac R Spence. RS and BGS are haplogroup "I". The results indicate that there is a 4 point mismatch with the Australian branch and one marker has a 2 step mutation, making 3 of the mismatches in the fast moving red markers. This family also matches somewhat with the Jonathan Spence family of Bath Co KY with a 5 point mismatch with one 4 step mutation in the 6th marker. RS & BGS descend from Isaac's son Tharpe's son Green S. Spence. JMS descends from Isaac's son Isaac R. Spence who resided in Trinity County, TX.

FAMILY GROUP TWENTY

Gavin Spence, b. 1738 Newburgh, Fife, Scotland. Married Janet Black in 1769 in Newburgh and moved to Perth. Gavin's parents are believed to be Andrew Spence & Jean Anderson. Son Gavin may have immigrated to New York.

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 KS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

KS descends from Gavin's son William who was born in Perth.

 

FAMILY GROUP TWENTY ONE

 This Australian Spence family features in the early history of the city of Port Macquarie, New South Wales. It descends from Peter Spence of Kinnoull, over the river from Perth in Scotland, and Southwark (in county Surrey but in the London metropolis). He was a wig or peruke maker who died 1807. In turn Peter seems to have been born Patrick (Patrick and Peter were interchangeable at the time in Scotland) and to come from the Spences in the nearby Carse of Gowrie region (parishes of St Maddoes, Kinfauns, Kilspindie etc, all in Perthshire). It is tentatively suggested that the oldest ancestor found so far might be George Spens who was having children in Kinfauns in the 1620s and 1630s.

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MS resides in Australia. The haplogroup is "I".

FAMILY GROUP TWENTY TWO-samples needed!

Tyre Spence b.c. 1821 in the 1850 census of Tazewell County, VA, wife America was widow in 1860.

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Had sons James, William, Jonathan H. Spence.

FAMILY GROUP TWENTY THREE

William Spence b. abt 1740 Carrickbreene, Donegal, Ireland married Barbara Hamilton. William's son Andrew Spence born abt 1786 immigrated to Ontario, Canada after 1818. Grandson Andrew married in Kansas, USA and died in California. The haplogroup is R1b. This family is a 11/12 match with family 9.

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FAMILY GROUP TWENTY FOUR

John Spence b. 1851 Springfield, Illinois

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 GAS

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 The haplogroup is R1b, the Celtic group. John may have had a brother named William. John had a son named Benjamin Harris Spence. This family matches 10/12 with the preceeding family of Donegal, Ireland.

 We will add additional Spence families so check back often!

Go to the Spence dna journal for tidbits about our project as it progresses:

homepages.rootsweb.com/~willspnc/spence/dnajournal.htm

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homepages.rootsweb.com/~willspnc/spence.htm

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www.familytreedna.com/public/Spence/